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Forum Post: Climate Denialists In Congress Acting As NASA's Kryptonite

Posted 2 years ago on May 13, 2015, 4:50 p.m. EST by factsrfun (8782) from Phoenix, AZ
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"Honestly, when it comes to getting the science of climate change right, who are you going to believe? A radio talk show host or NASA? The angry denialists in the comments section of this blog or NASA? The politician who says, "Well, I am not a scientist" or the scientists at NASA?

The answer is pretty clear.

That's why, if your goal is denying the climate science NASA has been doggedly revealing for decades, you have a real problem. You must convince Americans that either (a) NASA is lying or (b) NASA has gotten the answer wrong. Both are going to be a hard sell.

Given that we all can see much of what NASA accomplishes in other arenas with our own own eyes, it's hard to imagine why the space agency would have taken to only lying about climate change. And, as for NASA and the idea of getting the answer wrong, there are just two words you have to remember: Sky Crane. If NASA can land a mini-van-sized rover on Mars by lowering it onto the surface via a rocket-powered tether line, getting the answers right must be in the agency's DNA.

So, now you can see the embarrassing state of affairs in which climate denialists find themselves. NASA is our best-known force for scientific and technical understanding. But that same NASA is telling the world that climate change is very real and needs to be taken very seriously. Superman has spoken. In response, the only thing folks in the climate denial business can come up with is to gag Superman."

http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/05/12/406106296/climate-denialists-in-congress-acting-as-nasas-kryptonite?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20150512

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[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33307) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Forum Post: Climate Denialists In Congress

ooooooooooooooooooo . . . . I know who that is . . . I do . . I do. . let me guess . . . the dems Right??? . . . . . no no no . . . sorry got carried away by the constant specious aspersions being cast around here . . . OH OH OH . . . I got it . . . The Rethuglicans . . . how could I have gotten that so wrong the 1st time. . . HUH. . . maybe there is something to their (rethuglican) continuous blaming of others for the things that they do . . . damn that sounds so like some of the mutts on this site............. it reminds me of this guy: http://kos.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=TUeNrJWjTd8oXo2qquSNDhmOv2UPq3qL

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8782) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

In a few hours I will be putting this one up, I understand the purpose of the forum is to criticize Democrats but once in awhile I wander into wealth inequality and how that screws things up, combined of course with the power money has in public policy.

This is a story about the 1% of the 1%.

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/04/30/the-political-one-percent-of-the-one-percent-megadonors-fuel-rising-cost-of-elections-in-2014/

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33307) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I understand the purpose of the forum is to criticize Democrats

Nah that's not the purpose of this forum - that's one of the objectives of the status-quo supporters who have infested this site and are trying to get people to opt out and do nothing.

There is a very legitimate anti-rethuglican movement growing and they want to tie the dems to them - this way they get what they want (people opting out) the continuation of the loss of government by the people.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8782) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Bernie has changed the game a bit, those that wish to destroy the movement are being exposed.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33307) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6629) from Phoenix, AZ 3 hours ago

Bernie has changed the game a bit, those that wish to destroy the movement are being exposed.

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Yep & Yep - just look at how the opt out and do nothing propagandists howl. Revolutionaries my ass - they are working directly to support the 1%.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8782) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I can't wait to see some polls that include Bernie, I think he will beat the GOP field by a good margin.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33307) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Another life long republican - wakes-up

http://kos.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=QBrH8q4YgTkAKhmoRJac0MnPkLcYQYo3

The mutts the rethuglicans are running are truly pathetic - the offerings get worse year after year.

Damn time the public woke up and got busy.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8782) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I guess it's never too late to wake up, or at least I hope it's not too late.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33307) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

In case there is anyone here who is interested:

From : Environmental Action

Click here to tell Marco Rubio to swallow the hard truth that climate change is a threat to Florida, and the world.

The 2016 presidential election has not officially begun, but GOP candidates are already feeling the heat when it comes to their denial of climate change. Just yesterday, a close adviser to Pope Francis condemned climate deniers for putting Big Oil profits ahead of our health and the health of the planet.1

And while you'd expect that message to carry weight with all Catholics, some, like Senator-Candidate Marco Rubio, are ignoring the words and wisdom of the Pope, of scientists and of common sense by denying climate change.

Rubio recently stated, "Humans are not responsible for climate change in the way some of these people out there are trying to make us believe, for the following reason: I believe the climate is changing because there has never been a moment where the climate is not changing. The question is, what percentage of that....is due to human activity? If we do the things they want us to do, cap-and-trade, you name it, how much will that change the pace of climate change versus how much will that cost to our economy?"2 Really Marco?

So we came up with an idea to welcome climate denying candidates like Rubio to the presidential race by making one thing clear: You can't get into the White House if you deny climate change. Will you sign our climate denier greeting card to candidates who ignore reality?

Being a resident and Senator of Florida, Marco Rubio ought to know better. Climate change is already forcing parts of the state to adapt, and rising sea levels will impact everything from insurance rates to race relations in the next few years.3 If Rubio won't embrace the reality of climate catastrophe in his own state, how can we expect him to protect the entire country if, gulp, he becomes president? But just like the Pope's ally warned us about climate deniers -- Rubio refuses to do what is necessary because Big Oil has rewarded him with over $600,000 in campaign donations.4

It's past time to stop the debate on whether climate change is real. We need to start taking serious steps towards real solutions now. Everyone from scientists to military specialists agree that climate change is a huge threat to our economy, security and planet.5 The next president's agenda will have a serious impact on how we fight global warming. Will they follow through on Obama's Clean Power Plan or honor U.S. commitments to the United Nations to reduce global warming? That's why it's up to us to let anyone running for president know they are not fit for the office if they deny the reality and urgency of climate change.

Baltasar Gracian once said, "Know or listen to those who know." Rubio refuses to listen to scientists, to the military and even to the leader of his faith about the dangers of climate change. Let's make sure he listens to us when we tell him that no candidate for the highest office in the land can deny climate science, or delay climate action. Click here to send that message.

Thanks for taking (environmental) action,

Anthony and the Environmental Action Climate Crusaders

  1. San Martin, Inez. Key Advisor Blasts U.S. Criticism To Pope's Environmental Stance. Crux. May 12, 2015.

  2. Stromberg, Steven. Rubio's Intellectually Hollow Position On Climate Change. The Washington Post. April 19, 2015.

  3. Gillis, Chad. Climate Change Will Force Florida's Local Governments To Act. News-Press.Com. May 7, 2015.

  4. Center For Responsive Politics: Marco Rubio Career Fundraising Profile.

  5. Davenport, Coral. Pentagon Signals Security Risks of Climate Change. New York Times. October 13, 2014.