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Forum Post: Clean Coal Using OWS in its Pitch

Posted 1 year ago on Sept. 30, 2012, 12:47 p.m. EST by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL
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Found this on an occpiers facebook page (not sure of the original source, just to clarify that with the link Nazi here)...

Pretty messed up. What the hell is clean coal anyways? I cannot think of a single instance of coal ever being clean. Its filthy stuff.



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[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13307) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

paid for the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity

at 7. xx seconds you see Occupy Wall Street banner, it lasts roughly two seconds, and is followed by a headline in the paper, Household electricity bills skyrocket

[the image of the article is captioned: Source: Energy Information Administration]

The news article is on a computer screen, you can see the following buttons:

Comment, [facebook] and Tweet

That lasts about two seconds, and by 11 seconds the image transitions to that of an electric meter.

Time is the main theme, symbolized with images of clocks, and in the background you hear a ticking clock throughout the ad.

AmericasPower.org/CoalFacts is the ending banner, and the narrator encourages a visit.

  • Get the facts .

This is an advertisement attempting to persuade viewers that the solution to social unrest - typified by an Occupy Wall Street banner and protests - and rising costs as it pertains to energy, is clean coal technology. It is using the known principles of association as a part of its ad.



Well okay then, let us get the facts -

American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity (ACCCE) is a coal industry front group formed by merging Americans for Balanced Energy Choices (ABEC) and the Center for Energy and Economic Development (CEED).

A press release from ACCCE on April 17, 2008 announced "More than 40 leading U.S. companies from the electricity generation, transportation, coal production, energy technology, and equipment manufacturing industries have aligned to create the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity (ACCCE). ... ACCCE believes that the use of coal, America’s most abundant energy resource, is essential to providing affordable, reliable electricity for millions of American consumers and a growing domestic economy. ACCCE also supports enhanced public and private sector efforts to develop and deploy new, advanced clean coal technologies that protect and improve the environment. The formation of ACCCE results from a consolidation of the Center for Energy and Economic Development (CEED) and Americans for Balanced Energy Choices (ABEC).[1] As of March 2010, there are 38 members. [2] Several companies were disclosed as initial supporters of this organization, but references to their support has recently been deleted:

[extensive list of supporters, some in red, presumably these in red have since changed their position - haven't checked]


Support for the American Legislative Exchange Council

The American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity was a "Chairman" level sponsor of the 2011 American Legislative Exchange Council Annual Conference, which in 2010 equated to $50,000.[3] Furthermore, its President and CEO, Steve Miller, was a featured speaker at a Workshop at the 2011 Annual Meeting titled "A Smarter Aproach to Improving Our Environment: Addressing the Costs of Proposed EPA Regulations on Energy Affordability."[4]


The front group previously known as ABEC

Formed in 2000 to develop astroturf support for coal-based electricity, Americans for Balanced Energy Choices (ABEC) promotes the interests of mining companies, coal transporters, and electricity producers. A domain name search reveals that ABEC's website is registered to the coal industry trade organization Center for Energy and Economic Development. (ABEC originally used the www.balancedenergy.org domain but later switched to a website titled America's Power).

From ABEC's website: "Americans for Balanced Energy Choices (ABEC) is a national, non-profit organization designed to promote a dialogue with community leaders across the U.S. on issues involving America's growing demand for electricity. ABEC will advocate in support of policies that strike the proper balance between protecting the environment and providing for continued economic growth and prosperity for America's working families.

"Because they recognize the essential role that electricity from coal plays in protecting the environment while providing over half of the electricity used each day in the U.S., America's coal-based electricity industry (producers, transporters, and electricity generators) have provided the primary initial funding for this worthwhile project." [5] Activities



ABEC's promotion of coal-generated electricity ignores or downplays concerns about current industry emission levels and their links to health and environmental concerns.

Outreach by ABEC has included program underwriting on National Public Radio in the spring of 2002 promoting coal as America's energy source of the future. [6] ABEC also produced a short subject video that played on United Airlines flights. According to ABEC, the video "discusses coal's role in providing reliable, affordable, and increasingly clean electricity for American homes, schools, and businesses."

2011 Report: EPA Regulations to cost $18 billion

read more here


  • SourceWatch - Clean Coal

    • This article provides an overview of both the political and the marketing dimensions of clean coal, and the technologies for using coal that have variously been touted as "clean." Each topic is explored in greater depth in separate articles, as are several related topics:

    • read more here >>

    • Introduction

    • The term "clean coal" is both controversial and complex. Controversy arises out of the coal industry's use of the term in its high-profile marketing campaign aimed at convincing the public and politicians that the goal of using coal without damaging the environment and public health is either a current or a foreseeable reality. Coal opponents assert that such usage is not factually based and that its main purpose is to provide public support and political cover for continued expansion of coal use.

    • Three factors combine to cause additional complexity in the debate:

    • A history of shifting terminology:

    • Gap between old plants, new plants, and next-generation plants:

    • The "whack-a-mole" problem:

    • . . . . . . . . each of these are covered in greater depth here >>



Why this ad appears on a facebook page belonging to an OWS supporter is an interesting question which I do not address. There are a variety of possible explanations.

[-] 2 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

The message: America is asleep (city shown at sunrise), time to wake up, the alarm is ready to ring (clock at 6:59 AM), time is running out (the new years eve and sports clock countdown), industrial America (the US flag on the crane), and Washington is in charge, you aren't (the view is from the back seat of car looking at Capitol building, someone else is steering). All in the first 5 seconds.

What else do you see?

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13307) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Oh, common. You want me to watch that fuking thing again?

It is very highly polished iconography. No question.

. . .


here we go again


there are numerous representations of the flag, patriotism, there is the view of the capital, again from the back seat, you aren't in control, a huge pile of coal, hundreds of rail cars lined up - we've got work to do, at least two forms of imagery of electric light as the sun goes down, what if the power goes out

positive images: mom and child, man on bike, the [black] laborer, the [white female scientist] plus the numerous representations of the flag are all appeals on the basis of association, designed to convince the viewer that clean coal has something in common with all of these other themes, interests, demographics.

[-] 0 points by yobstreet (-575) 1 year ago

I support carbon capture, or, the zero emissions boiler.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

Yeah, carbon is not this issue with coal. All heat dependent energy produces carbon except for nuclear which produces way worse. The problem with coal is all of the other byproducts like mercury, sulfuric acid, ect... Your carbon landfill fill is no answer for that.

[-] 0 points by yobstreet (-575) 1 year ago

Well, then what about zero emissions boilers?

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

did you ever make a potato battery in school? Did you know the telegraph was initially powered by rods of metal stuck into the dirt? Did you know that boats ride on top of an open battery? We pay for energy when it's free, everywhere, all the time. We are being sold our own shirts. If this sounds a little nuts, I agree.

"Researchers use the ocean to recharge their batteries"

[-] -1 points by yobstreet (-575) 1 year ago

While all of this is true.... most of us will not see a coal or crude free world in our lifetime; in the meantime we need energy, and we need a lot of it.

It's either that or we regress five hundred years, or more, since we no longer recall past technology.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

Power this with the tech I linked to in my previous comment, BAM, a revolution in water vehicle propulsion (barges, industrial shipping) and the next energy related boom for the economy. All it takes is one of these many ideas floating around to meet the right entrepreneur and we may see it sooner than you think.

[-] 0 points by yobstreet (-575) 1 year ago

I'm hoping we do see it sooner; in fact, I am quite certain we will see some of it sooner - but in my lifetime, I will never see NYC powered entirely with alternative energy. In rural areas the price of fuel oil is rapidly deforesting the viewscape; I don't like it.