Forum Post: Clean coal - another lie being told/sold to the public.
Posted 11 months ago on June 8, 2012, 4:50 p.m. EST by DKAtoday
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Sent this day 6/08/2012 An Open Letter Addressed to The President of the United States of America and to all of the currently seated members of Government. Please Handle and deliver/share as you would a letter delivered by the USPS.
Mr. President and all currently seated members of Government,
1st - the truth is getting out and it is spreading. Yes the cat is out of the bag and it's running for it's life. No the ( your? ) MSM did not let it get out. The freedom of the internet ( the peoples only friend these days ) is getting out the truth.
There is no doubt in the public mind ( those who are aware ) that the government has been subverted to do the will of the corporate faux-people even to the detriment of our health and prosperity our environment. The program is becoming well known - Profits over People. What happens when all of our work is outsourced? Where will be the support for the economy? Does not really matter if we are going to engineer our own environmental extinction event.
Among other things the FCC should be looking into the prevalence of false advertizing and issuing fines and alerting the EPA and alerting the American People as well as government as well as the Justice department. WTF good are public protection agencies if they don't do the job? WTF good is government if they support domestic threats?
There is no such thing as "clean" coal.
Images for coal ash spill Tennessee
http://site.pfaw.org/site/R?i=fpQqgmTwryElDB-lATsbNg
Inside the Tennessee Coal Ash Spill - The Daily Beast www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/07/17/toxic-tsunami.html Jul 17, 2009 – Inside the largest industrial spill in American history. How coal ash ruined one Tennessee town—and why it could happen again.
Images for coal ash spill lake Michigan
U.S. EPA Sued over Toxic Coal Ash Disposal
Environmental Groups Target Coal Ash Disposal
Coal Ash Sites Across the Country - Sierra Club
Spread the word.
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This is where we should be going: Green Energy we have the technology we just need to use it. This is what I am talking about. A clean future to be implemented NOW!
http://www.hopewellproject.org/
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/12/ff_new_nukes/all/1
FuelCell Energy http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/news/progress_alerts.cfm/pa_id=600
You have got to watch this vid: The liquid Metal Battery - another piece to the puzzle.
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/donald_sadoway_the_missing_link_to_renewable_energy.html
Additional Liquid Metal Battery links.
http://lmbcorporation.com/files/flyerFinal.pdf
Support green energy technology - industry - jobs. Save our world save our economy.
Rework free trade agreements as they are currently detrimental to the Business, Employment, Economic and Environmental health of the USA and in extension the world.
Put an end to outsourcing for Profit over People and the environment.
Stop world wide corporate abuses of people and environments.
You're probably preaching to the choir here; at least speaking for myself, I fully understand that there's no such thing as clean coal (at this point, there is no viable platform to burn coal in a clean way, and the only possible option is sequestering the CO2 underground, with unknown geological consequences). But don't expect Obama or most other politicians to give two shits about any of this. The only citizens these people are concern with is themselves.
Hence the dissent and protest country wide as well as world wide.
Our only salvation will come with the full involvement of the population.
Thank you DKA, for all the good work you have done here.
Fossil fuel companies do not care. Growing awareness is critical, in getting safe energy alternatives into use.
Unite in support of issues. This is where education and awareness need to go to successfully unite people all people in moving forward in health and prosperity for all.
Corpo-rat issues are the enemy of the people - profits over people.
Understanding of this basic is what needs to happen.
Thanks for the shout-out.
Updated; 8/30/2012 message sent to my representatives.
Dear Senators,
Coal ash is polluting waters across the country, yet nothing is being done to protect communities exposed to dangerous toxic chemicals. In fact, S. 3512, the Coal Ash Recycling Oversight Act of 2012, moves us further away from strong, federally enforceable safeguards against this toxic menace.
Please oppose S.3512 and support the EPA's efforts to clean up toxic coal ash sites and protect our health and environment. This bill is grossly insufficient to protect at-risk communities from coal ash pollutants like arsenic, lead, selenium, mercury and more that are poisoning the waters we drink.
Not only does the Coal Ash Recycling and Oversight Act lack enforceable deadlines to permit or close dangerous and leaking coal ash dumps, it contains weak cleanup standards and includes a permanent ban on the EPA's ability to set federally enforceable safeguards. By lacking crucial federal safety standards to ensure the stability of coal ash dumps, the bill does nothing to prevent another large-scale disaster like the collapse of the coal ash pond in Tennessee that spilled one billion gallons of toxic coal ash, flooded a nearby community and destroyed 300 acres and two dozen homes.
I urge you to stand up for our health and environment. Protect communities and our drinking water from toxic coal ash by opposing S.3512 and any other effort to delay or weaken EPA efforts to clean up coal ash.
Again: We do not need to destroy the environment and poison people and wildlife to use fossil fuel.
WE HAVE ALTERNATIVES.
AND WE SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTING THEM ON A VERY LARGE SCALE.
USE STIMULUS TO GET PEOPLE TO WORK UPGRADING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
NO INTEREST LOANS TO BUSINESS TO UPGRADE. NO INTEREST LOANS TO POWER COMPANIES TO SWITCH OVER.
NO INTEREST LOANS TO BUSINESSES TO RETOOL AND MANUFACTURE THE NEEDED COMPONENTS AND PRODUCTS FOR THE CONVERSION. TO HIRE EMPLOYEES TO GET THE NEW BUSINESS GOING.
We have the technology - we have the capability we certainly have the need.
It is all here and ready to use - and this is just what I have stumbled across.
Spread the word.
Green Tech. New and improved - now with Liquid Metal Battery for efficient power storage and distribution.
This is where we should be going: Green Energy we have the technology we just need to use it. This is what I am talking about. A clean future to be implemented NOW!
http://www.hopewellproject.org/
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/12/ff_new_nukes/all/1
FuelCell Energy http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/news/progress_alerts.cfm/pa_id=600
You have got to watch this vid: The liquid Metal Battery - another piece to the puzzle.
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/donald_sadoway_the_missing_link_to_renewable_energy.html
Additional Liquid Metal Battery links.
http://lmbcorporation.com/
http://lmbcorporation.com/files/flyerFinal.pdf
Support green energy technology - industry - jobs. Save our world save our economy.
Rework free trade agreements as they are currently detrimental to the Business, Employment, Economic and Environmental health of the USA and in extension the world.
Put an end to outsourcing for Profit over People and the environment.
Stop world wide corporate abuses of people and environments.
Give this some serious thought/consideration/support.
We can go crazy about everything! Everybody know that coal burning is increase greenhouse effect. Its natural, its dusty, its cheap, its old school technology like this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfu2A0ezq0
Thanks - An oldy - but a goody - Tennessee ernie Ford - 16 Tons http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfu2A0ezq0
People do you realize that the company store is now nation wide?
Yep. It used to be isolated coal town abuse.
CorpoRATions have learned that bigger is better - for them.
Video - An ILL Wind
From Moms Clean Air Force
Dear Dan,
Another day, another deadline—moms know what that's like.
But this time it means more great news for American families! After 15 years of inaction, the EPA has finally proposed new standards for soot pollution. During that delay, asthma in this country skyrocketed—a walloping 9% of children in this country now suffer from asthma.
Thankfully, the EPA has opened a comment period on their soot standards, so please make your voice heard right now. We all have a chance to tell EPA Administrator—and mom—Lisa Jackson that we appreciate the new soot standards and want them enacted ASAP.
Click here to tell the EPA you support their new safeguards to limit harmful soot pollution.
Recently, an industry lobbyist complained that those of us who want strong protections against pollution—including the American Lung Association—are "playing on the heartstrings". I say, You betcha! Imagine how hard-hearted you have to get to complain that our concerns are focused on what pollution does to our children's health.
Please take a moment to tell EPA Administrator Jackson you support the new soot safeguards, then share this with your friends and family.
Sincerely,
Dominique Browning
Co-Founder and Senior Director, Moms Clean Air Force
Los Angeles Joins Call for Action on Global Warming Los Angeles
Big news from our Clean Air Cities campaign: Los Angeles is the latest -- and largest -- city to join the call to our national leaders to finally address the global climate crisis. The city council in L.A., where global warming is expected to triple the number of days warmer than 95 degrees, voted unanimously on Wednesday for a resolution calling on President Barack Obama and the Environmental Protection Agency to use the Clean Air Act to cut greenhouse gas pollution.
The Center for Biological Diversity started the Clean Air Cities campaign last year to get city leaders around the country to speak out on the climate crisis and the importance of the Clean Air Act. So far, more than 25 cites representing more than 12 million people have joined the campaign. Others include Chicago, Pittsburgh, Seattle and Tampa.
Your city could be next. Learn more at our Clean Air Cities Web page, find out how to help with ourtake-action toolbox and get more from KPCC News, Southern California's public radio network.
EDF - update.
Moments ago, the Senate voted to REJECT Senator Inhofe’s toxic air assault!
This victory is a direct result of your action. You and 79,073 other EDF activists stood strong for clean air, and the Senate listened.
This bipartisan vote reaffirmed EPA’s authority, allowing the agency to do its job, and reduce the mercury and other toxic pollution emitted from power plants into the air we breathe. This vote will save up to 1,000 lives each year, help prevent neurological damage in babies, and make it safer to eat fish caught in American waters.
We should all be grateful to the 53 Senators from both parties who stopped this unconscionable attack on cleaner, healthier air for America’s children.
Now the fight shifts to supporting EPA’s landmark rule to limit global warming pollution from America’s power plants. 81,859 of you have already taken action to support this rule, which leaves us a bit short of our 100,000 comment goal before this Monday’s comment deadline — June 25th.
Please make sure to send your comments to EPA today.
Heather ShelbyThank you for taking a stand against dirty energy,
Heather Shelby
Action Network Coordinator
Hi Dan,
Blowing up mountains to get at coal veins. That concept is so crazy that you'd think it was straight out of a science fiction novel. But this "mining" technique has already destroyed more than 500 peaks in the Appalachians.
Tell Congress to end mountaintop-removal mining »
http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/AGQWP/zm8y/B18Bb
Not only does mountaintop-removal mining destroy some of the world's oldest mountains, but it kills endangered species, permanently pollutes streams and has been linked to cancer and birth defects in people. Oh -- and it perpetuates our dependence on dirty fossil fuels, which threaten our very climate.
A clean water bill in Congress right now would sharply curtail mountaintop removal, but you know Big Coal is pulling out all their big guns to stop anything that disrupts business as usual.
Fight back: Tell your members of Congress to support an end to mountaintop-removal mining »
http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/AGQWP/zm8y/B18Bb
Emily V. Care2 and ThePetitionSite Team
End Mountaintop-Removal Mining
Take Action Now!
Take Action!
Take action link: http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/AGQWP/zm8y/B18Bb
Earth Wavers On The Edge Of Dangerous Tipping Point
Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/earth-wavers-on-the-edge-of-dangerous-tipping-point.html#ixzz1xKq3w3Tc
Human behavior is accelerating climate change http://www.care2.com/causes/tag/climate-change , and setting in motion a chain of events that may put the future of our species in jeopardy. Those who acknowledge the negative impact of human development accept this and desperately want to do something about it. We find it hard to swallow when others refuse to acknowledge http://www.care2.com/causes/corporations-funding-climate-change-denial.html or even consider the scientific facts that prove humans are altering the Earth’s climate in dangerous ways.
The sad truth is that denying climate change won’t prevent it from happening. In fact, a new study published in Thursday’s edition of the journal Nature http://www.nature.com/nature/index.html shows that the planet is approaching a dangerous climate tipping point, and our destructive habits are pushing it toward the edge.
Throughout the eons the Earth has gone through several drastic biological changes, many of which wiped out thousands of then-living species in traumatic mass extinctions. ”Humans are now forcing another such transition, with the potential to transform Earth rapidly and irreversibly into a state unknown in human experience,” wrote the study’s international panel of authors.
The researchers say a combination of variables are forcing the planet toward irreversible biological changes, including exploding global population http://www.care2.com/causes/population-is-a-profound-challenge-for-people-and-planet-new-study-shows.html , rapidly rising temperatures and the clearance of more than 40 percent of Earth’s surface for urban development or agriculture. They also warn that ignoring these changes, and our role in fast-tracking them, is a dangerous gamble.
“The net effects of what we’re causing could actually be equivalent to an asteroid striking the Earth in a worst-case scenario,” the paper’s lead author, Anthony Barnosky, a professor of integrative biology at UC Berkeley, said in an interview http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0607-global-tipping-20120607,0,4125302.story with the LA Times. “I don’t want to sound like Armageddon. I think the point to be made is that if we just ignore all the warning signs of how we’re changing the Earth, the scenario of losses of biodiversity — 75% or more — is not an outlandish scenario at all.”
No, the Earth isn’t going to suddenly implode because there are too many SUVs or because you leave the air conditioning running when you’re not home. But if deforestation, population growth, and consumption of fossil fuels continues at the current pace, our children will be left with “a biologically impoverished Earth that would rob humans of vital ecological services such as insects http://www.care2.com/causes/global-warmings-unseen-effects-on-plants-and-butterflies.html that pollinate crops, forests that provide clean water, and tropical species that are the source of new drugs.”
Yet again, scientists are echoing what environmentalists have been saying for decades: even if we can’t agree on what’s causing climate change, we must acknowledge that IT IS happening and WE ARE making it worse. Doing so will allow us to prepare for what’s ahead, and minimize the negative impact on society. Refusing to acknowledge that our actions have consequences only guarantees that they will be swift and severe.
Related Reading:
Who Is Behind The Conspiracy Against Climate Science?
http://www.care2.com/causes/who-is-behind-the-conspiracy-against-climate-change-science.html
Rio+20 Or Bust: Activists Doubt Summit’s Impact
http://www.care2.com/causes/rio20-or-bust-activists-doubt-summits-impact.html
NC Ignores Science, Tries To Make Sea Level Rise Illegal
http://www.care2.com/causes/nc-ignores-science-tries-to-make-sea-level-rise-illegal.html
Read more:
climate change, http://www.care2.com/causes/tag/climate-change
climate denial, http://www.care2.com/causes/tag/climate-denial
deforestation, http://www.care2.com/causes/tag/deforestation
mass extinction, http://www.care2.com/causes/tag/mass-extinction
population growth, http://www.care2.com/causes/tag/population-growth
tipping point http://www.care2.com/causes/tag/tipping-point
Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/earth-wavers-on-the-edge-of-dangerous-tipping-point.html#ixzz1xKppSSA2
I slipped and fell in some corporately 'cleaned' mud the other day. I still got dirty.
LOL - can you imagine that they are using coal ash in building materials?
How is that any different than using arsenic to pressure treat wood products. This practice was banned as the skin can absorb the arsenic that coats the surface of such products. Arsenic was also banned in use in other building materials for the same reason as well as out gassing.
How is approving the use of coal ash in cement used in construction different? The cement will come into human contact and can also out-gas.
The difference was more profit. That's the only difference they seem to care about.
More profit - yes. That is their battle cry - more profit - and - profit over people.
That is why crapitalism can not be left to it's own devices.
cough....cough...hack...wheeze...cough....sorry. Got some coal ash in my lungs there for a sec.
Not surprising! Did you see the map of coal ash dumps?
No. But provincial wisdom says the Corporate Profit Engine is driving us right off the global warming cliff, so any number would not really surprise me.
Corporate practices "are" sending us towards an extinction event. Apparently that is their goal? I mean they are supposed to be somewhat intelligent - they buy the best minds available as they are found in our colleges - so that can be my only conclusion.
Their goal is to wallow in their own power. Overconfidence in their power leads to blind ambition. For this reason, some men give little credence to the far greater power of nature until it is too late. Intelligence does not prevent arrogance, only humility can do that. For evidence, I give you the Titanic.
True true - arrogance like greed is blind. Worse the arrogant often think they are godlike the greedy just try to grab everything in sight. All the more reason we need effective rules, regulations, oversight and enforcement.
Amen.
Good thing we are part of a growing awareness. We need to wake everyone we can. ASAP. If not sooner.
Get out the pots and pans and let's make some noise.
In compliment to the idea may I contribute again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUKB3PxG-0E
Nailed it again. Thanks.
there's another word for "clean coal"
willard and charles and david have many - diamonds
Perhaps so but they are not a girls best friend.
not sure im buying this article. ive worked at coal power plants, and yes they are subtantially cutting down pollution, much the same way that cars pollution is cut down. In fact I didnt see any black smoke coming out of it, only white smoke.
And the coal ash dumps?
Make a difference - Get Involved.
From the Sierra Club.
Dear Dan,
Don't Let Big Coal Push Us Around: Stand Up for Clean Water!
Take Action!
My Neighbor's Well Water
Take Action!
My name is Jimmy Hall, the fifth generation Hall to own property on Mill Creek in Letcher County, KY. My great-great-great grandfather owned the entire mountain range here in the late 1800s. Since then, mountaintop removal coal mining has turned my family's special place into a moonscape. And now mining waste has made our drinking water toxic.
"DON'T DRINK THE WATER" is what the Water Department said when they called us. They found arsenic and lead from nearby mining operations in my well water. It's not just me -- my neighbors have the same problem. Many of them are chronically ill and some have died.
It's gotten so bad that the EPA has vetoed 36 coal permits in the area to keep our water from getting worse. I was glad they decided to help but the State of Kentucky and Big Coal didn't see it that way.
They are challenging the EPA's actions to clean up our water. I need your help to show the EPA we've got its back. Please let EPA officials know everyone deserves clean water!
Last week, the EPA held hearings in Kentucky on their plans to protect our water. The Kentucky Coal Association bused hundreds of their supporters to the hearings. They did everything they could to intimidate me and the dozens of other activists who were there to speak out for clean water. They booed, heckled, and kicked us. Someone even threatened the safety of the representatives from the EPA who were there to listen to us.1
Big Coal must be scared. But they can't scare us! Not when the health of our children is on the line. One of my neighbors showed me his well water -- it was rust colored and cloudy. He's forced to use it for drinking, food preparation and to bathe his children.
The EPA passed the Clean Water Act in 1972 to ensure that no one is forced to give their children filthy water to drink.
I'm not going to let the coal companies intimidate me or the EPA into undoing the progress we've made in the last 30 years. Stand with me and my neighbors. Tell the EPA to hold the line for clean water today!
My courage comes from people like you who stand together to bring these issues like mine to the surface. What the coal companies are doing is wrong, but the state allowing this to continue is just plain criminal. The EPA is our only hope to continue this battle here on our own soil with mountains blowing up all around us, filling the valleys and streams with poison.
If we stand together now and send 30,000 messages to the EPA to protect our water I know we can win.
Don't let Big Coal and the State of Kentucky destroy the progress we've made to protect communities under the Clean Water Act. Urge the EPA to hold the line for clean water before it's too late!
Thanks for all you do to protect our environment,
Jimmy Hall Fifth Generation Kentuckian
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[1] Anderson, Chris. Miners get vocal at hearing. Appalachian News Express. June 8, 2012.
I personalized my letter and so can you:
Now, the coal industry has resorted to intimidation -- heckling Kentuckians at recent EPA hearings who were concerned about water quality and mining in their communities. Please don't give in to coal-industry intimidation. I urge you to hold the line for healthy communities and enforce national standards to protect clean water for all Americans.
Get the miners new work. Lobby government. Lobby the people of the USA. Put the unemployed millions back to work and save our planet.
This is where we should be going: Green Energy we have the technology we just need to use it. This is what I am talking about. A clean future to be implemented NOW!
http://www.hopewellproject.org/
http://ecat.com/
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/12/ff_new_nukes/all/1
FuelCell Energy http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/news/progress_alerts.cfm/pa_id=600
You have got to watch this vid: The liquid Metal Battery - another piece to the puzzle.
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/donald_sadoway_the_missing_link_to_renewable_energy.html
Additional Liquid Metal Battery links.
http://lmbcorporation.com/
http://lmbcorporation.com/files/flyerFinal.pdf
Dear Dan,
Do you have a moment to help reduce carbon pollution in our national parks?
http://my.npca.org/site/R?i=woy5ujB2d8QEKgn6KsTxeQ
Carbon dioxide is one of the leading contributors to climate change, and power plants are among the biggest emitters of carbon dioxide in the United States. National Park Service (NPS) Director Jon Jarvis has called climate change “fundamentally the greatest threat to the integrity of our national parks that we have ever experienced.”
The NPS has documented multiple effects of climate change already unfolding in national parks around the U.S., from melting glaciers to the growing frequency and intensity of wildfires, to coastal parks threatened by sea level rise. All of these forces imperil the long-term health of park roads, buildings, and cultural treasures, as well as plants, fish, and wildlife.
June 25 is the deadline for the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to adopt a Carbon Pollution Standard that would require all new power plants to use technologies that limit their carbon pollution. This is a small but critical step in addressing climate change.
By lowering the amount of carbon pollution that future power plants can emit, EPA’s rule would likely result in the adoption of cleaner technologies that mean less haze, smog, acid rain, and climate change impacts in our national parks.
Take Action: http://my.npca.org/site/R?i=SJwrbMFTov3-ysaLc4eJyg
Join over a million Americans who have already told the EPA that they agree with the Carbon Pollution Standard. Encourage EPA to finalize this proposal and require future power plants to use the best technology to reduce carbon pollution.
Thank you for helping bring cleaner air to national parks in the near term and for helping us address the serious threats that climate change poses to the long-term health of our National Park System. Future generations will appreciate your action.
Sincerely,
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Mark Wenzler Vice President, Climate and Air Quality Programs
evey time you and all mammals exhale you exhale carbon dioxide.
Don't you?
[-] -1 points by salta (-104) 7 minutes ago
evey time you and all mammals exhale you exhale carbon dioxide.
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Do you have an alternative to breathing?
See the thing is - there are real alternatives to fossil fuel.
name some that are not built using fossil fuels and sustainable to keep our grid up and running.
cows and concrete are more of a threat than coal plants. technology is making them obsolete the course is already set don't speed up the evolution of progress otherwise we can stumble onto something that we can not control
Manufacturing may require fossil fuel byproducts as ingredients - say for plastics and such. But fossil fuel is not an absolute requirement for manufacturing power/electricity nor as a fuel for any sort of kiln.
Fossil fuel is not an absolute requirement to power manufacturing.
ok name a few.
oil is needed for manufacturing thousands of lbs are used to lubricate the drills and machines everyday
i know methane gas from cows can be used but that would require more cows which would contribute more to global threat.
Lube is an ingredient - not a fuel.
Land fills create methane too as does sewage. Methane is quite plentiful.
Did you ever explore any of these links? Check out the power plant opened in Orange county. Versatile.
http://www.hopewellproject.org/
http://ecat.com/
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/12/ff_new_nukes/all/1
FuelCell Energy http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/news/progress_alerts.cfm/pa_id=600
You have got to watch this vid: The liquid Metal Battery - another piece to the puzzle.
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/donald_sadoway_the_missing_link_to_renewable_energy.html
Additional Liquid Metal Battery links.
http://lmbcorporation.com/
http://lmbcorporation.com/files/flyerFinal.pdf
Lube, methane.... you're an expert in the nether regions!
Are you done with your rant? You have very little idea of my background or experience - you have little idea of my interests or what I have studied.
Check out the links yourself they are pretty easy to understand.
A sentence is not a rant!
Your presence on this forum is one long continuous rant.
Sorry to baffle your feeble mind.
If there's a person with a feeble mind (and body) on this forum it's you!
You're just Obama's water boy. Are you protecting him now that the leaked documents came out incriminating him? Are you like some who believe the republicans planted this because of the upcoming elections? Are you going to do like VGkag2 and say that I'm a republican because I criticize Obama?
since the greenies consider carbon dioxide to be a "pollutant"how do the intend the 5 billlion + humans + all the animals from breathing. carbon dioxide is neccessary, with out it we would die, trees use to make oxygen.
Ever hear of this concept?
Moderation in all things.
Vitamin A is good for the health of the Body - but it can kill you if you take too much.
Carbon is part of our make-up - we are carbon based life forms.
Balance is essential to life.
Try not to be such an idiot salta.
moderation with breathing? explain.
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You're right. We should cover half of western North America with solar panels and wind turbines, and continue building million-year mass extinction machines (nuclear power plants) all over the place.
I bet your nose is "dirty", but I won't eat radioactive waste just because of that fact.
Your user name - ScrewyL - seems to have been an appropriate choice.
Green Tech. Not what one might expect.
This is where we should be going: Green Energy we have the technology we just need to use it. This is what I am talking about. A clean future to be implemented NOW!
http://www.hopewellproject.org/
http://ecat.com/
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/12/ff_new_nukes/all/1
FuelCell Energy http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/news/progress_alerts.cfm/pa_id=600
You have got to watch this vid: The liquid Metal Battery - another piece to the puzzle.
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/donald_sadoway_the_missing_link_to_renewable_energy.html
Additional Liquid Metal Battery links.
http://lmbcorporation.com/
http://lmbcorporation.com/files/flyerFinal.pdf
My name is a peice of text on a screen, it is irrelevant. Your name could just as easily stand for DKA - "Don't-Know-Anything", but would that validate my argument?
Do not reply to me with cuts and pastes please.
We're not talking about green energy here. We're talking about "clean" coal. You should not mix the two.
Talk about one or the other at a time, otherwise you either confuse yourself and others, or you pander to an agenda by improperly weighting your disclosures, which is after all the complaint made above.
Judging from your cut-n-paste verbiage, the latter appears to be the case.
Of course we are talking about green energy.
Why? Screwy? Why?
Because fossil fuel needs to be replaced.
So what? I can almost hear your corroded gears churn out the question.
Because we have the means to replace fossil fuel right now - as in - Today!!!!
No, we don't. We have absolutely no way short of armed revolt to accomplish that.
Such a pessimist.
All we need is for the public to awaken pay attention and then get involved.
If the public awaken they will be killed. Their slumber is the only thing that keeps us so comfortable. I'm sorry to have to tell you this.
What you think the military of the USA would be willing to do an Assad on the Public? We are not in Syria yet and let us pray that things never get that bad.
See the funny thing is - there is prosperity even for fossil fuel producers in changing over their operations to green tech.
There will always be a market for fossil fuel byproducts - it just does not have to be as a fuel.
I do not "think it"; they have published the plans for it, built the apparatus, amassed the power, legalized the process, and begun the assault.
Our military is of this country. They grew-up here - they were educated here. Why would they throw away their heritage?
Are you aware that we have a major problem with military personnel committing suicide? Why is that if they feel good about what they are doing? In a foreign country no less.
Good work, DKA. No such thing as "clean" coal.
Thank you. We need to point out these blatantly obvious things as the general public is not stopping to consider the truth or what they are being fed as information by the corpo-rat MSM.
So much propaganda.
Well we have begun.
Let us continue.
Unity and change with awareness of truths.
It's true that many people are just not concerning themselves with these very important issues and that apathy is a large part of the reason why the gov't and the corporations get away with all that they do.
We need to engage them on a basic level. Show them the fact that pollution is not a nebulous issue, that it indeed affects their daily lives.
Arsenic and other heavy metals in the food chain. Contaminants in water.
The rise of cancers and other systemic disease.
We have to show how all of the shit going on in corporate business and government effects them directly.
As well as what can be done / needs to be done to make this a healthy and prosperous world for All going forward.
you worked that" forward " in there nicely. the new obama slogan(forward) is the old commmunist slogan.
Suppose you would like progress better? How about moving in a positive direction? Any favorites? Please feel free to share.
progress from progressives is a the same thing as " forward." recovery from the destructive obama administration will come when romeny is the president. another 4 yrs of obama will totally destroy the USA .
So other than being an ankle biter do you make contributions? I have not seen any from you.
contributions to who?
Contributions to the forum - to humanity - to a better way of life - your pick - don't feel restricted by the examples list - try to be positive.
contributions to this forum are the truths about obama. to humanity, thats personal. my private life is none of your business.
Could care less about your personal life. BTW how far do your "truths" go? Do they include the contributions to failure made by others as well?
the expression is "couldn't care less"
Don't believe there is just one way to say or do anything.
Closed minded?
Creatively challenged?
Dull?
that's YOUR resume. live with it
Moms Clean Air Force
http://www.momscleanairforce.org/
Dear Dan,
Mercury is a strong poison. Many coal-fired power plants spew it into our air. It makes its way into much of the fish we eat.
Mercury does not belong in our food or in our air—or in our bodies.
The EPA has proposed strong new standards to limit mercury pollution from power plants.
But Senator James Inhofe of Oklahoma is trying to kill them.
Please tell your Senator to oppose Inhofe's efforts.
http://www.e-activist.com/ea-campaign/broadcast.response.do?ea.url.id=92071&ea.campaigner.email=YVTHd2e3n/zaE8AaERsMJQ==&ea_broadcast_target_id=0
Once you've sent a message to your senators, won't you go one step further and give them a call? After you take the above action, we'll send you a number to call—and simple talking points. We thank you—and so do our children.
Sincerely,
Dominique Browning Co-Founder and Senior Director, Moms Clean Air Force