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Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 23, 2011, 11:50 p.m. EST by FontanaCA (7)
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is this class warfare and its been a month, when will i see change if any?

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[-] 5 points by bakerjohnj (121) 13 years ago

Let's see. A month ago this movement was a couple dozen ppl standing up to power in a little park in lower Manhattan. Now there are a thousand occupations all over the world. What do you want? Bippity boppity boo?

[-] 1 points by jssk (170) from Naperville, IL 13 years ago

What will happen when winter comes?

[-] 1 points by bakerjohnj (121) 13 years ago

The movement will take off like a rocket.

[-] 1 points by yasminec001 (584) 13 years ago

LMFAO

(not laughing at you, laughing with you. that was some funny ass shit.)

[-] -1 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 13 years ago

LMAO That was brilliant repartie!

[-] 3 points by Democracydriven (658) 13 years ago

It has always been classwarfare, us citizens just didn't know it.

[-] 3 points by Democracydriven (658) 13 years ago

In Due time.

Never enter into negotions unless you have some leverage

You will be swatted down like a fly

[-] 2 points by metapolitik (1110) 13 years ago

"Class warfare" is what Wall St. has been doing for the last 30+ years.

[-] 1 points by JQcitizen (125) from Houghton, MI 13 years ago

Actually this is (see post)

http://occupywallst.org/forum/ows-now-is-the-time-do-not-falter/

It's on.

So watch for the rising tide to wet your feet when we sink your yacht...that will be a change to remember. ("rising tide floats all yachts")

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

This is a revision its not spam. Tax the rich

The tax loopholes for the rich are illegal because they are all the kickbacks for the bribes they gave to Clinton/Bush/Obama and congress. Tax loopholes are candy for elected officials. The $3 billion loophole that GE used was created by the GE bag men (lobbyists) which transferred that profit to the debt. The same goes for all the multinational corporations, not just GE.

The rich are the masters of wealth transfers from the 99%. Then they turn that around claiming that medicare and social security is a wealth transfer for the 99%. We are the puppets for the rich.

To expect any of this to change because OWS is sitting in the park is silly. Unless OWS actively campaigns for a 3rd party to remove the Republican Democrat CRIME FAMILY in 2012, we will keep getting screwed by the rich. It is a class war that the privileged created.

We 99% are the victims of the class war because the 99% aren't fighting in the war. We are like the Jews who the Nazis loaded into the cattle cars for their trip to the death camps. They all hopped right into the cattle cars as if they were going on vacation.

If we can't elect a 3rd party, the Republican/Democrat CRIME FAMILY will continue destroying all of us. It is a class war that the privileged created.

Obama has a 400,000 annual Latino quota. They admitted this on a PBS show that when they round up innocent people to deport it is collateral damage. They said they meet their quota to keep getting their budget allotment. Its tough shit for the children and others who have a parent shipped back to Mexico.

[-] 1 points by MJMorrow (419) 13 years ago

This is not class warfare. Corruption, criminality and joblessness, on Wall Street has contributed to unprecedented volatility in the stock market, the near bankruptcy of half the World, the rise of a Communist economic and military power, stagnant salaries and mass under employment. These conditions do not favor the rich, middle class or the poor, over the long haul. Historically, periods of unpredicted exploitation, of the people, led to mutually beneficial political reform or forms of authoritarianism; Nazi Germany, the Roman Empire and the Soviet Union. You take your pick, but there hasn't been an Arab Spring protest movement yet, that led to I-Bankers running the revolutionary country. [smile] There is evidence that Arab Spring protest movements lead to miltary dictatorship. So, tell me, in a mugging, is the guy with the wallet or the guy with the gun, most powerful? Consider that, before you push the World toward military dictatorship. [wink]

Also, don't think putting wealth in a few hands will save the rich from a military dictatorship or a charasmatic security guy, like Putin, either. You will expedite the take over of the security forces, concentrating wealth. Why would the people resist a military take over, if they do not benefit from the underlying order? Do you think that Putin and his men simply could not stop the Oligarchs of Russia, robbing the proverbial store? [rolling on the floor laughing] Ah, how much better to control a Nation! It is easier to control a few families, monopolizing the wealth of a Nation, than to keep an eye on a hundred million persons. Oligarchy contributed greatly to the successful take over of Julius Caesar and in the successful take over of Vlad Putin.

Keep making the same mistake, if you wish...[yawn] At best, billionaires and I-Bankers could hope to be the f-ck toys and useful idiots of charasmatic dictators and security leaders, if the New World Order continues. At worst, they mght end up doing smurf jacks in a concentration camp. They might be outright killed, by Communists or other groups, sick of billionaire challenges to Communist authority. They might be killed, just so they can't pull on the Communists, what they pulled on the USA. Remember, the solution to every problem. under Communism. is no man no problem. There is no happy ending, for greedy a-holes, when mass exploitation of humanity is concerned.

Let us just work together, so we can all have the resources to be a happy and to have families. The billionaires are never going to rule the World. The I bankers are never going to rule the World. You want to know the ultimate future? A money- less market system, where humans obtain goods and services thorough fully automated artificial intelligence. There will come a day when the job of a surgeon will be performed by AI. It will happen.. Around this time, there will be no way for billionaires to motivate workers or keep down people. We doin't have to pay a n AI slave race to work for humanity, so why pay for the goods and services AI creates? The Governments of the world will turn on the billionaires and the billionaire will step down or pay the price. Government will be hare long after finance is obsolete. Be lucky with what you have and don't begrudge unemployed Americans or stand in the way of the Government. Citizens and Government are the future, not I-Bankers and ego maniac billionaires.

[-] 1 points by FontanaCA (7) 13 years ago

as far as i know there has been rioting in other countries and yet there hasn't been anything done. i bet the govt dont care if u protest untill u cost them some serious money

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 13 years ago

Until it starts costing them serious money. Exactly.

[-] 0 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

Tax the rich

The tax loopholes for the rich are illegal because they are all the kickbacks for the bribes they gave Clinton/Bush/Obama and congress. Tax loopholes are candy for elected officials. The $3 billion loophole that GE used was created by the GE bag men (lobbyists) which transferred that profit to the debt. The same goes for all the multinational corporations, not just GE.

The rich are the masters of wealth transfers from the 99%. Then they turn that around claiming that medicare and social security is a wealth transfer for the 99%. We are the puppets for the rich.

To expect any of this to change because OWS is sitting in the park is silly. Unless OWS actively campaigns for a 3rd party to remove the Republican Democrat CRIME FAMILY in 2012, we will keep getting screwed by the rich. It is a class war that the privileged created.

We 99% are the victims of the class war because the 99% aren't fighting in the war. We are like the Jews who the Nazis loaded into the cattle cars for their trip to the death camps. They all hopped right into the cattle cars as if they were Democrat CRIME FAMILY in 2012, we will keep getting screwed by the rich. It is a class war that the privileged created.

We 99% are the victims of the class war because the 99% aren't fighting in the war. We are like the Jews who the Nazis loaded into the cattle cars for their trip to the death camps. They all hopped right into the cattle cars as if they were going on a free trip to Hawaii. http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

This is a revision its not spam. Tax the rich

The tax loopholes for the rich are illegal because they are all the kickbacks for the bribes they gave to Clinton/Bush/Obama and congress. Tax loopholes are candy for elected officials. The $3 billion loophole that GE used was created by the GE bag men (lobbyists) which transferred that profit to the debt. The same goes for all the multinational corporations, not just GE.

The rich are the masters of wealth transfers from the 99%. Then they turn that around claiming that medicare and social security is a wealth transfer for the 99%. We are the puppets for the rich.

To expect any of this to change because OWS is sitting in the park is silly. Unless OWS actively campaigns for a 3rd party to remove the Republican Democrat CRIME FAMILY in 2012, we will keep getting screwed by the rich. It is a class war that the privileged created.

We 99% are the victims of the class war because the 99% aren't fighting in the war. We are like the Jews who the Nazis loaded into the cattle cars for their trip to the death camps. They all hopped right into the cattle cars as if they were going on vacation.

If we can't elect a 3rd party, the Republican/Democrat CRIME FAMILY will continue destroying all of us. It is a class war that the privileged created.

Obama has a 400,000 annual Latino quota. They admitted this on a PBS show that when they round up innocent people to deport it is collateral damage. They said they meet their quota to keep getting their budget allotment. Its tough shit for the children and others who have a parent shipped back to Mexico.

[-] 0 points by Cancelcurrency (72) from Anchorage, AK 13 years ago

Steve, did government threatened or persecuted you somehow? They usually suppress those who understand what is going on. Because their power based on lies.

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

I was in federal prison for 9 years, they know for sure I know what's going on. Its a miracle they released me.

[-] 0 points by Cancelcurrency (72) from Anchorage, AK 13 years ago

That is horrible! How it happened? If you do not mind. I think they prosecute people, those who really oppose them hard. Others can talk... For a while...

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

I got an education you couldn't buy. All the Chinese slaves would be happy to be in a fed joint. they feed good and I read a lot of great books.

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

I wrote a book on that subject. I hope you read it. I wrote it to expose things you will never know. Go to my blog and read that first. If you learn anything, please buy my book. http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/

[-] 0 points by Cancelcurrency (72) from Anchorage, AK 13 years ago

Thanks, Steve. It is in my favorites already. Bad that I can't buy it for now. Will see in the future. But do not worry about money. If we will not abolish it, It become wordless anyway with such economy.

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

Thanks for reading my blog. Please refer it to your entire email list. I hope your luck changes. Why are you in AK? What type of work do you do? Have you been there long? Maybe somebody will buy you my book for Xmas. The story will blow your mind. Stay in touch. My email is justfacts.steve@gmail.com

[-] 0 points by Cancelcurrency (72) from Anchorage, AK 13 years ago

I have been all over Eastern US. Las Vegas, SF, LA, SD... Different jobs. Worked for lawyers, politicians and simple jobs for 20 years. Not less than 12 hours / 7 days. 1 or 2 days off per year! Never earned good money. Multi-rich been cheating me also. For last 5 bucks sometimes. What an assholes I met between them! Now I am in Eastern Europe. Much better here. In all seances. Will e-mail to you or Skype.

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

I thought you said you were broke and couldn't buy my book. My folks were from Hungary and they loved America. They wouldn't believe how fucked up we are now. I revised this post. Its not spam.

Tax the rich

The tax loopholes for the rich are illegal because they are all the kickbacks for the bribes they gave to Clinton/Bush/Obama and congress. Tax loopholes are candy for elected officials. The $3 billion loophole that GE used was created by the GE bag men (lobbyists) which transferred that profit to the debt. The same goes for all the multinational corporations, not just GE.

The rich are the masters of wealth transfers from the 99%. Then they turn that around claiming that medicare and social security is a wealth transfer for the 99%. We are the puppets for the rich.

To expect any of this to change because OWS is sitting in the park is silly. Unless OWS actively campaigns for a 3rd party to remove the Republican Democrat CRIME FAMILY in 2012, we will keep getting screwed by the rich. It is a class war that the privileged created.

We 99% are the victims of the class war because the 99% aren't fighting in the war. We are like the Jews who the Nazis loaded into the cattle cars for their trip to the death camps. They all hopped right into the cattle cars as if they were going on vacation.

If we can't elect a 3rd party, the Republican/Democrat CRIME FAMILY will continue destroying all of us. It is a class war that the privileged created.

Obama has a 400,000 annual Latino quota. They admitted this on a PBS show that when they round up innocent people to deport it is collateral damage. They said they meet their quota to keep getting their budget allotment. Its tough shit for the children and others who have a parent shipped back to Mexico.

[-] 0 points by Cancelcurrency (72) from Anchorage, AK 13 years ago

I can't buy anything for now. I did not set up my banking system here yet. Here everything functions almost with no money. And it is good system.

[-] -1 points by FellowMan (15) 13 years ago

yeah, nothings really happening

[-] 1 points by RantCasey (782) from Saginaw, MI 13 years ago

Congress hasn't accomplished anything either. At least OWS is bringing people together to fight corruption

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

They are sitting in the park all day and aren't sure why. I tried to explain specific issues. They are uninformed. Americans are too arrogant to admit they don't know shit. See my blog http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/ Lunacy has engulfed all Americans

Every American person who demands believing complete nonsense is in a trance that makes lunacy look mild. To not want to know that George Bush was warned more than 40 times for months before 9/11 and then FBI Director Tom Pickard jumped into Attorney General Ashcroft's face on July 12, 2001 in Ashcroft's office in front of many people proves beyond any doubt that Bush ordered the spectacular collapse after the Arabs' planes hit. This is unquestionable that there are many witnesses who would be crazy to lie about what Shennon wrote and published because Ashcroft told Pickard that he didn't want to know anything about having a terrorist attack proves they planted the explosives way before 9/11. Pickard should have arrested Ashcroft for treason right then.

Nobody but Bush and his creeps for friends did it. Nobody on earth who knew the attack was coming could order the 9/11 crime in order to start the Iraq war but the only officials who demanded we attack Iraq were Bush and Cheney. This is red meat for OWS but they are liberal wimps with no clue are afraid to blow the whistle now that the cameras are on. First we need to go directly to NYPD headquarters demanding a meeting with the NYPD Counter terrorist command about this evidence in Shenon's book.

The OWS people should be using this incredible situation to be specific about Bush and all his screwball friends in the conspiracy.The entire crime was filmed. The explosions are vivid. Ignoring 9/11 while planning nonsense is lunacy.

[-] 3 points by RantCasey (782) from Saginaw, MI 13 years ago

Assuming what happened will discredit the movement. Unless you have proof it inappropriate to accuse people. Keep fighting for the truth. It isn't hard to prove that bush was corrupt

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

I'm not trying to prove the cock sucker is corrupt, I'm trying to get him arrested for mass murder.

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

Corrupt? Mass murder is slightly worse than corrupt. Try rereading my post more carefully. Then be specific.

Your attack against me is very counterproductive.

[-] 1 points by RantCasey (782) from Saginaw, MI 13 years ago

Yeah I was just in milford a week or two ago!

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

Are you in Saginaw now?

[-] 1 points by RantCasey (782) from Saginaw, MI 13 years ago

No I'm in Syracuse ny I'm over the road truck driver

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

I thought you were a lady. Are you a Teamster? Do you go through CT? If you do I'll buy you a cup of coffee and we can clear this matter up.

[-] 1 points by RantCasey (782) from Saginaw, MI 13 years ago

Yeah I go through ct here and there. I go everywhere.;) went thru there a cpl times last week

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

Call me next time if you can stop for a break even in the middle of the night. 203-612-1987 I'm up til about 2 AM. I get buzzed and write.

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

Are you driving and writing? Do you have a partner. I got my license and almost went to work for CR England. Another fucked up story.

[-] 1 points by RantCasey (782) from Saginaw, MI 13 years ago

No I'm owner operator thru Fedex custom critical. I'm sitting in a truckstop right now. I used to be a school teacher til I was layed off. Spent five years as a marine. Went to college graduated 3.92.gpa got awards for being a good teacher and got laid off due to being new. I cried It was like being torn away from my family. Worked with inner city kids moved across the street from the school. Only white guy for miles. Had a great time. The community loved me I luved them. Sorry long story huh.

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

I'm in Bridgeport. There's a truck stop in Milford. they park in the Fairfield station on 95. You know all that. Have a safe trip. I love to drive and learned that driving is a very skilled profession. I spent 4 years in the Navy and worked on a few freighters. That was easy compared to driving.

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

I do have unequivocal proof. You doubt my proof before you looked at it much less studied it. Let me show it to you. Go on my blog and read my posts I have written for years. I have studied this crime for 100s of hours and I know and understand all the details. There are a huge number of details but I can boil them down to 30 minutes. My meeting with the Bridgeport police Sgt Grech lasted 3 hours and 20 minutes. I have it all on tape.

[-] 1 points by RantCasey (782) from Saginaw, MI 13 years ago

I will be there this weekend. I believe something is up too. I just saying they will discredit you however they can. I'm not trying to insult you. I apologize

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

Honey, you couldn't possibly insult me. Its impossible to discredit me with complete ignorance and stupidity. My next trip to NYC will be on 11/8 to hear Glenn Greenwald at 6 PM can you make that instead. We can meet and I'll show you the evidence and explain it so you will have no doubt at all.

Just like most criminals they left their evidence all over the place. The entire crime was filmed. To ignore the pictures is very ignorant. I have more than just pictures.

[-] 1 points by RantCasey (782) from Saginaw, MI 13 years ago

If I'm in the area sure

[-] 0 points by Cancelcurrency (72) from Anchorage, AK 13 years ago

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.