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Forum Post: Chechen terrorism a product of western intelligence?

Posted 11 years ago on April 24, 2013, 11:24 p.m. EST by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai
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That's what Webster Tarpley claims. To know more, go to:


and scroll down to the audio recording:

CIA’s Historical Sponsorship of Chechen Terrorism Is Key to Evaluating Role of Boston Patsies



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[-] 0 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

Ever since the take over of India by the British East India company, almost three hundred years ago, western intelligence has been using Muslim extremist to do their dirty work.

Tarpley's not saying that the CIA paid these two guys to set off bombs, but rather that Chechen terrorism as a whole is sponsored by the CIA. Maybe "patsies" is not the right word for it.

[-] 1 points by justiceforzim (-17) 11 years ago

Just like the CIA created Al Quaeda to fight the Russians. It is accepted that we aided the Chechens until they committed one to many atrocities against innocent citizens (or at least we supposedly quit helping them). Just as we are now arming and aiding foreign Islamic invaders of Syria. To call it a civil war is a joke.

[-] 0 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

I think that perhaps they really want the atrocities to be committed. It gives them a reason to go in and take over whole countries.

[-] 2 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 11 years ago

And to keep us in countries. Example: Koran burning in Afghanistan, soldier committing massacres in two separate villages, Abu Graib torture and humiliation photos, Kill team murder of innocent youth, and the list goes on and on. These actions keep the people at odds with coalition forces, more resistance means we need to prolong our stay. It seems to be working, 11 1/2 years in Afghanistan, long enough to have fought WWll three times.

[-] 0 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

Yes, and unfortunately much of the left doesn't catch on to it in the US.

[-] 2 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 11 years ago

They're blinded by the brilliant light emanating from the white house.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

Our Australian troops are still asking WTF they are doing in Afghanistan.

[-] 2 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 11 years ago

Are the Australian troops also having high suicide rates like the U.S. soldiers?

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

I'm not sure, but I'd expect it would be out there if that were the case.

Our north-south cross-country train track is called the Ghan in recognition of the Afghani input in opening up our vast interior.

We should not be making enemies of those people.

[-] 0 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

Or perhaps they're just used to thinking that Muslims are innately our enemies.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

Forgetting that they were instrumental in ending the Cold War.

[-] 0 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

I wonder though, how much of that was just training for them to be militant, and to become our eventual enemy.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

I thought they were still on the payroll.

The rebel fighters in Libya turned up again in Syria.

[-] -1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

Yes, but that situation is quite a bit more serious, as it could lead towards regional or even global war. Some say that was the plan all the time.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

A friend in South Korea is blogging that the kids he teaches are more concerned about mid-term exams than what's happening in the north. Such is the "threat level" apparent on the ground there.

The whole focus will shift to Iran. There's an agenda, and while circumstances might forestall it, the end prize is still clear to the neocons.

[-] 0 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

Unfortunately, I don't think its quite so rational as that. The way I hear it is that the western oligarchs, headed by the queen of England, are losing it. Their empire is all based on fake money, and its all collapsing now into nothingness.

If things keep going this way, the dynasty that ran the world for the last few centuries will be reduced to figure heads, while the Asian take more and more leadership. The queen and her type can't stand the idea of that, losing it all while others take power. She would be deeply ashamed, so she wants to ruin the game for everybody with a nuclear war.

Then they'll hide in their bunkers, hoping to come out when all the fallout has settled, and takeover what's left of the world. That's the way I've heard it explained.

Many of the world's top military leaders, in places like the US, Russia and China, have caught on to this and have been trying their best to keep it from happening. But as the system keeps breaking down, it will get more chaotic, allowing someone to get off a nuclear missile somewhere.

The best way to stop all this would be to pass Glass Steagall, which would bankrupt the oligarchs, diminishing their capacity to buy themselves a WW3.

[-] 0 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

I've heard that about Korea also.

Regarding Iran, it may be a prize, I don't think its the end though. I think they are going for world domination. This means that eventually Russia and China will have to submit, or we'll have world war. That might get started in Iran or Syria.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

There's probably already deals happening under the table. China owns so much US debt, it pretty much needs to keep that debt safe, and as for Putin's Russia, he's already shown that he's the megalith that won't be shifted from his plinth.

All the dominoes are in place. Let's see how they fall. Shall we?

[-] 0 points by justiceforzim (-17) 11 years ago

Have you seen the video the govt says it has showing the younger placing his backpack at the scene? I am waiting for his day in court before finding him guilty based on the state media news.

Don't you wonder why the fbi only released their suspect photos after cnn announced an arrest (of Saudi dude)? Why did they need the public's help to identity the bros when apparently they had met with Tam at least once and according to his mother more than that? He was on one of those terrorist lists. Lived in Boston area. Strange they couldn't id him themselves. Newest reports now say the younger was unarmed in boat....so why did .gov fill it full of bullets? I didn't read the op links, but the evolving, official story is a bit strange.


[-] 0 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

I've read rumors that they wanted to blame it on US right wing, liberty movement types at first, but that their cover for that was blown.

[-] -1 points by justiceforzim (-17) 11 years ago

Not to worry, am sure they are planning another "terrorist" attack like Oklahoma City which will feature Constitutionalist Christian Gun Owners. They will roll it out if there is serious backlash over the Boston Police State demo, or gun control continues to fail or the Reps hold the Hill in 2014. What I mean is if Boston doesn't get them all they had hoped

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

Yeah. The other day, I listened to a video saying that it's almost inevitable that Washington DC will some day be nuked in a "terrorist incident".

[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

I bet all the boys and girls are out to play when it happens.

Maybe Denis and Bernie will get sent back in for a tray of sandwiches, or something.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Nope again. Alex Jones.

Why is that so hard to understand?


It's like pretending FLAKESnews has no effect.