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Forum Post: Charles Koch speaks: Make of it What You Will

Posted 6 years ago on July 11, 2013, 2:18 a.m. EST by shoozTroll (17632)
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Charles Koch, the billionaire co-owner of Koch Industries and libertarian financier, thinks poor people would be better off if companies could pay them less than $7.25 per hour.

In an interview with the Wichita Eagle, Koch said economic freedom was key to helping those in need. That meant getting rid of regulations, including the minimum wage.

“We want to do a better job of raising up the disadvantaged and the poorest in this country, rather than saying ‘Oh, we’re just fine now.’ … Anything that people with limited capital can do to raise themselves up, they keep throwing obstacles in their way. And so we’ve got to clear those out. Or the minimum wage. Or anything that reduces the mobility of labor,” he explained to the Eagle.


So not paying people, makes them stay on the job longer??

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[-] 4 points by Builder (4202) 6 years ago

Not reading it. After failing as a libertarian, these criminal environmental vandals back the tea party, and still pretend to be something else?

We saw what you did there. And I mean everything you've done there.

[-] 5 points by Builder (4202) 6 years ago

To cut a long story short, the Koch criminal consortium needs to face a genuine court of the people, for crimes against humanity.

Nothing short of that outcome is admissable in the people's court.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Imagine a "real" court of the people - not a dozen billionaires sitting on the jury - No - a dozen of the worst victims. For some of the evidence Medical Histories of workers as well as the general population and the growth of the incidence rate of cancer and sacrifice areas before and after pictures and the homes and towns nearby etc etc etc. I could see life without a chance of parole might very well be a light sentence.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

You should probably read it. I'm sure Oz has it's own version.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 6 years ago

Our own version of this scum has got the nod to fly workers in from wage-poor nations, to mine our resources.

It's not like this global cancer is confined to any one nation, shooz.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

I know that very well. I posted the link to the Irish bankers bragging about their bailout, but I do get ignored a lot by certain shills around here..

What are they planning to pay those miners, and how did they prove no Aussies would be willing to do the job?

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 6 years ago

There would be "lobbying" involved. No doubt.

The mine sites are in remote areas of the Pilbara, and the excuse given is that there's a shortage of workers, which is BS of course. Plenty of workers waiting to get on the mine jobs, but we get paid average 2 grand a week.

I have no idea what the imported workers will be paid, but they will be FIFO and not permitted to leave the mine site.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

I'll take a chance on being attacked again, by stating that a certain "philosophy" is being promoted Worldwide, and it's exacerbating these kinds of conditions .


[-] 4 points by Builder (4202) 6 years ago

Promoted, is right. Financed by the criminals themselves.

(quote) In her lifetime Rand strongly influenced Ronald Reagan and long-time chair of the Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan, was part of her entourage as a young man and remained faithful to her views throughout his career (catastrophically so as far as the US economy was concerned). According to The Week magazine:

“Rand attracted a group of disciples, known, with self-conscious irony, as the Collective...It wasn’t just her ideas that inspired the group, it was Rand’s charisma. At the height of her popularity in the 1950s and early 1960s, Rand cut a highly exotic figure with her bobbed hair, Russian accent, dollar-sign brooches, and long cigarettes, smoked through a holder. She saw smoking as a Promethean symbol of creativity and regarded health warnings as a socialist conspiracy. When she died of lung cancer, in 1982, a 6-foot-high floral dollar sign was erected by her open coffin.” (April 16 2009) (unquote)

[-] 1 points by trashyharry (3084) from Waterville, NY 6 years ago

The attack of Savage Greedy Fascistic Capitalists upon the Land and People of Austrailia is one of the most terrifying and heartbreaking spectacles on this suffering planet.I really can't even think about it without getting a knot of anxiety in my throat.It is like watching a horrific and brutal video of a child being raped and defiled.And I am not Australian.So what must it be like to be a person who is of that place.A place so unique,mysterious,magical and wonderous.How could anybody ever willingly be part of a force that wants to cash that out?How could anybody ever want to cash out and destroy any part of the natural splendor of any part of our beautiful planet?The ecology of Australia is very fragile-but the people are very tough.If and when Austrailians decide to put the hammer down on these attacks,it may well be a death stroke to the Austroligarchs.That easygoing "G'day.mate," is part of the national character everybody always sees.Unless I am mistaken,the Australian national character also includes-VERY low tolerance for bullies.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

This is what "modern" libe(R)tarians do.

You should read about Charles' plan for the US.


[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 6 years ago

Don't expect much. It's more Teathuglican shyte. You gotta love billionaire libertopians.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

I'm just trying to figure out how lower pay "reduces labor mobility".

What the fuck is he talking about?

Labor mobility is a new buzz word of some sort?

What real term is he replacing with that?

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 6 years ago
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Labor Mobility - The Fuck - " we need wandering herds of workers that we can literally throw onto cattle cars when we have something we really want to dig into". F'n F'r

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago


He's actually saying that lower wages will make it impossible for them to move anywhere else.

It's a bullshit term, coined to support "right to work" legislation.

I wonder how much they paid for it, and who they paid?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Yeah - when you consider that Right To Work actually means right to fire without cause - it makes sense.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Or........Any regulation on the employer at all.

It should be called, "right to abuse".


[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

A libe(R)topian term.

Minimum Wage laws that prevent unskilled workers, willing to work below minimum, from entering workforce.[4]
Absence of "right to work" laws / presence of forced unionization[5]
Inadequate infrastructure and housing to accommodate fast moving changes in labor demand[6]
Binding ties to a geographic location. e.g.: a worker's inability to sell his home for a price that covers his existing mortgage[4]
A worker's lack of education and/or access to education.[4]
Government mandates on industry labor standards. e.g.: license requirements to cut hair or give a massage.[4]
Unemployment benefits that disincentivize workers from accepting employment at market clearing wage rates.[4]

In the Asia-Pacific Region, some common reasons workers are immobile include:

national and regional differences in the qualifications necessary for different jobs[7]
a lack of standards for skills and vocations[7]
discrimination based on citizenship or national origin[7]

Other impediments to worker mobility:

discrimination based on social class[citation needed]
systems of economics and property rights that impede workers.[citation needed]

Low pay cures them all, to Charles anyway.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago


It appears that it was coined for the "right to work" legislation campaign.

So yup. It's a Koch foundation buzz word.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

The Koch's are still at it.

Here's more proof, as they attack a town of 26,000 for attempting to raise it's wage to $15 an hour.

Money these guys make in a fraction of a second.