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Forum Post: Charge Congress with Seditious Conspiracy!

Posted 10 years ago on Dec. 18, 2011, 9:12 a.m. EST by ironboltbruce (371) from Miami, FL
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Regardless of whether Bushbama signs the NDAA, charge Congress with Seditious Conspiracy for passing it:

  1. Sections 1031 and 1032 were renumbered to 1021 and 1022 in the final wording of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (the "NDAA"). Here is the final wording (PDF page 81 of 371):


  1. PLEASE read constitutional lawyer Glen Greenwald's explanation of that final wording here:


  1. Use NaSI SARs to charge Carl Levin, Howard "Buck" McKeon and your U.S. Representative and Senators who voted for NDAA (S.1867/H.R.1540) with "Seditious Conspiracy" under U.S. Code Title 18 Part I Chapter 115 Section 2384. Details here:






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[-] 2 points by Windsofchange (1044) 10 years ago

They should be. If the American people wake up from their "coma", then maybe something could be done about our traitorous Congress that is selling us down the river.

[-] 1 points by divineright (664) 10 years ago

But the greasy cheeseburgers make me sleepy and Dancing with the Stars is so hypnotic. Lol. It seems more people are awake now than in a long time...I hope it's enough!

[-] 1 points by Windsofchange (1044) 10 years ago

Here is an interesting video I came across. It speaks of how the Government is pushing things left and right to control us. http://www.wpix.com/videogallery/66806863/News/IT’S-ALL-ABOUT-CONTROL#pl-62886862

I hope the American people are waking up, if not will they can kiss their freedoms goodbye.

[-] 1 points by divineright (664) 10 years ago

Lionel approaches the subject with a sense of humor, but is surely a serious subject. We boundaries of control are increasingly shrinking around us. I could do with more freedom, not less. That is the America I grew up believing in and was told was sacred. A free America is one I will continue to fight for.

[-] 1 points by Windsofchange (1044) 10 years ago

When Lionel was talking about how things will get to the point that the Government could shut down our cell phones when we are driving, and our cars could be shut down if they wanted to do that--it just sickened me. You know FEMA was doing emergency tests on the cell phone system this week. The freaked people out in NJ because they didn't say that this was a test. The NJ people got a message that sounded like a real emergency. FEMA has been testing our Emergency Response System for the past few months. Why are they doing this now, I wonder.

Also, did you know that months ago it was reported that OnStar (In-vehicle security, communications, and diagnostics system) was giving reports to our Government, even if you never subscribed to or cancelled their service--they were spying on you and reporting things about you. That is just creepy, but that is the way it is. The very things we think is convenient or helpful is being turned on us. No thank you--I like my freedom too. It is a shame that we are now living in an Orwellian society.

[-] 1 points by divineright (664) 10 years ago

Much agreed. It is amazing that when you point out the next level of big brother, it sounds like a sci-fi movie. Yet, on a day to day basis, you can see things moving along in that direction. It's like the frog in the pan he mentioned...the heat is being turned up slowly. If you thrust the end result on people today, they would panic. Doing it one legislative action at a time seems to keep people complacent. I tend to be a big picture thinker...I guess maybe that's why this angers me more than most. I figure taking my rights away slowly one by one or taking them all away from me at once leaves me in the same position.

[-] 1 points by Windsofchange (1044) 10 years ago

Yes, the proverbial frog in the saucer (with the heat being slowly turned up) is very true to what is going on with our freedoms being taking away from us daily. I really like to see how the American people react to SOPA if it does pass. Will they just sit there and do nothing? This is one piece of legislation that I thought would freak them out.

It really does make me anger with what is being done, and in the end we will lose our freedoms if Congress keeps passing draconian legislation that is a rape of our Bill of Rights and no one stands up to challenge it. Have we become a nation of spineless wimps?

[-] 1 points by divineright (664) 10 years ago

The level of apathy is truly staggering. I am beginning to think people won't be stirred to action until it is too late. I thought things like the NDAA and SOPA would bring more people to attention. As of today, I can't say I'm convinced that is the case.

[-] 1 points by Windsofchange (1044) 10 years ago

I feel the same way. I am completely dumbfounded by the level of apathy I see. If they don't wake up until it is too late, well sadly they created their own reality.

[-] 1 points by divineright (664) 10 years ago


[-] 0 points by ironboltbruce (371) from Miami, FL 10 years ago

The "somebody" that needs to "do something" is YOU...

[-] 1 points by Windsofchange (1044) 10 years ago

....and I have been doing all I can. What of the American people who are more concerned about who won American Idol or Dancing with the Stars than what our Congress is doing?

One person can only do so much you know.

[-] 2 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 10 years ago

Now you are talking.

[-] 1 points by divineright (664) 10 years ago

Sounds good to me.

[-] 0 points by ironboltbruce (371) from Miami, FL 10 years ago

Then we can count on you to take action as requested?


[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 10 years ago

Ummm, You (generic you throughout) do know that there is a process in place to 'charge congress' etc with just about any 'criminal activity' right?

You also understand the first step in this process is to get permission to do so?

So how do you suggest going about it?

[-] 0 points by ironboltbruce (371) from Miami, FL 10 years ago

I don't know how to explain the "how" any clearer than we did here:


If you can post to this forum, you can do what is asked there.

[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 10 years ago

I know the process, I was just wondering if anyone else did. I've noted through the years that things I was taught in grade school aren't being taught any longer, heck haven't be taught for over 40 years...

Good to see that there are those curious enough to look it up.

[-] 1 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 10 years ago

Or cry and do nothing.

[-] -1 points by ironboltbruce (371) from Miami, FL 10 years ago

Then we can count on you to take action?

[-] 1 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 10 years ago

I have been with no stopping in sight.

[-] 0 points by America921 (161) 10 years ago

I have a better idea. Get the majority of VOTING Americans to no longer give the government the consent to govern and U.S. government will no longer have any powers to Tax, Make Laws, Fight Wars, etc.