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Forum Post: Celebrate Greed

Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 23, 2011, 5:37 a.m. EST by ithink (761) from York, PA
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There is Greed, yes. There is also Envy, Wrath, Sloth, Gluttony, Lust and Pride. These 7 fabulous sins are a part of the human condition and certainly not limited to the elite. I think that we should not try to condemn these aspects of ourselves. We should celebrate them.

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[-] 1 points by nullapars (10) from Sacramento, CA 13 years ago

We must simplify our demands to succeed. We should all call for a constitutional convention to change the way we choose our leaders and that makes giving money to politicians illegal. Take the money out of the system and we take away the weapon the rich have used to hijack our system and cause this mess. This is the way for the 99% to take back our government. The elected officials will never do it so we must. TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF POLITICS make all campaign contributions and political donations illegal. Get rid of the electoral college and implement term limits for everyone in congress. A simple message the media has to cover. Right now the message is unspecific. That is going to kill the movement. We should be United around one specific item and its money. No other single change could solve so many of our problems. Imagine how things would be if this were accomplished. Anything short of this wont work. More info at http://uws1.weebly.com/

[-] 1 points by ithink (761) from York, PA 13 years ago

I do agree, however, I am also starting see why some people are saying the system its self if flawed and must fundamentally change. Our economic system rewards money hungry junkies by making them rich and powerful even if they trample on innocent people in the process. We can and should use our political system to make sure this doesn't happen. However, unless we get at the very heart of the issue.. we are only addressing symptoms of a larger disease.

[-] 1 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 13 years ago

We were all born with a natural instinct to gather and store for survival. A natural instinct to care for family and community. This is human nature. 

When modern society was formed, we began to sell out our natural instincts. Survival turned into survival with a little more elbow room. Then survival with a little more elbow room and a nice view. Then survival with a little more elbow room, a nice view, and something pretty to hang around our neck.

Fast forward a few thousand years. With the industrial revolution, came mechanized transportation, modern housing, air conditioning, and television.

We had become somewhat spoiled. Somewhat motivated. Still relatively down to Earth. Still modest enough to appreciate one another, care for one another, and work towards a common goal.

Along the way, the potential for increased personal wealth became more and more intoxicating. Now, the vast overwhelming majority want to be rich. They want it so badly, they are willing to sell out basic morality to attain it. They WILL sell out basic morality if given the opportunity.

How can I be so sure? That's easy. Human nature plus years of corrupt influence plus opportunity.

Mother Nature did not plan for modern society. She did not plan for extreme personal wealth. Once attained, we become fully intoxicated. We simply can not process the concept without being corrupted by it. Without compromising our basic morality.

Extreme personal wealth is the single greatest corrupt influence of modern society. With every 'zero' on the paycheck, our basic instincts to care for family and community are compromised.

Those of you who still aren't convinced, consider this: 

If God himself gave you the power to end poverty, bring about world peace, and take a bonus of $100,000,000 for yourself, would you do it?

If God himself gave you the power to end poverty, bring about world peace, OR take a bonus of $100,000,000 for yourself, which would you choose?

Which would the vast overwhelming majority choose?

Why are the richest men and women in the world so incredibly determined to get even richer?

How did the world's wealth become so incredibly concentrated?

Why is the concept of a partial redistribution for the good of all so incredibly divisive and controversial?

How is it that virtually every developed nation in the world has become riddled with fear, instability, and rising debt?

How have so many world leaders and those affiliated become even richer as their own economies falter?   

The answer is greed. An obsessive desire for extreme personal wealth.  It's become a worldwide epidemic. Smashing through moral character like a runaway train.   

Not only is the greatest concentration of wealth in world history the single greatest underlying cause of economic instability. The very concept of extreme personal wealth is the most intoxicating and corrupt influence in the history of mankind.   There will be no recovery. The train won't stop until the track runs out. 

Greed kills. It will be our downfall.

[-] 1 points by ithink (761) from York, PA 13 years ago

Greed may indeed be our downfall. However, it is not possible to excise what is inherent to human nature. Not only is it impossible, it is very dangerous to try and do so. What happens is that we take these aspects of ourselves that we do not like, and we project them outside of ourselves. Once that has happened, we are free to destroy them. This is when things start to get dangerous. This is when planes fly into buildings. I am not saying we should not work to make a better world. Only that we should be very careful when choosing our enemies.

[-] 1 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 13 years ago

The instinct to gather and store in order to survive is inherent. The desire to expel your waste on a gold plated toilet seat is not. Greed has grown into a worldwide epidemic because people like Buffet, Gates, Winfrey, Branson, and virtually every public figure on the planet keep raising the standard of 'success' and feed us one bogus promise to save the world after another with no regard whatsoever for the growing concentration of wealth or its effect on social and economic stability. It's gone too far. This will be our downfall. Not one of us will live to see a true recovery.

[-] 1 points by Mambet (3) from Тараз, Жамбыл 13 years ago

когда следущяя акция? Казахстан поддерживает