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Forum Post: Cars Cars Cars

Posted 5 years ago on Feb. 11, 2013, 8:35 p.m. EST by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT
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How many cars are there in the world today?

Number Of Cars Worldwide Surpasses 1 Billion . . .

For all of you global warming deniers out there - just imagine - What if every single automobile owner in the world stopped by your house, just to shit on your lawn . . . why - you would be able to eat shit





In 2012, for the first time in history, over 60 million cars passenger cars will be produced in a single year (or 165,000 new cars produced every day). . . . Cars (or automobiles) make up approximately 74% of the total motor vehicle annual production in the world.

The remaining 26%, not included in this statistics, is made up by light commercial vehicles and heavy trucks . . .


DSamms correctly noted below that more cars are sold in China today than the U.S. - and here are the results of deregulation and the auto industry in China in graphic detail . . .





For those too dense to grasp the purpose and intent of this post, it is to illustrate the EXTERNALITY associated with the automobile industry and the consumption of fossil fuels.

What is an EXTERNALITY? It is an economic term:

Externalities are costs or benefits arising from an economic activity that affect somebody other than the people engaged in the economic activity and are not reflected fully in PRICES. For instance, smoke pumped out by a factory may impose clean-up costs on nearby residents; bees kept to produce honey may pollinate plants belonging to a nearby farmer, thus boosting his crop. Because these costs and benefits do not form part of the calculations of the people deciding whether to go ahead with the economic activity they are a form of MARKET FAILURE, since the amount of the activity carried out if left to the free market will be an inefficient use of resources. If the externality is beneficial, the market will provide too little; if it is a cost, the market will supply too much.

One potential solution is REGULATION: a ban, say. Another, when the externality is negative, is a tax on the activity or, if the externality is positive, a SUBSIDY. But the most efficient solution to externalities is to require them to be included in the costings of those engaged in the economic activity, so there is self-regulation. For instance, the externality of pollution can be solved by creating PROPERTY RIGHTS over clean air, entitling their owner to a fee if they are infringed by a factory pumping out smoke. According to the Coase theorem (named after a Nobel prize-winning economist, Ronald Coase), it does not matter who has ownership, so long as property rights are fully allocated and completely free trade of all property rights is possible.

Surely even the densest of fools can plainly see that the consumption of 165,000 new cars every single day

is not without consequence.

I am confident that with time and the inevitable continuation of increasing global temperatures, the solution will become obvious - the precedent may most clearly be seen among the tobacco industry - which, as with fossil fuels and the debate over Global Warming, spent tremendous sums attempting to influence the debate over the health of nicotine.

The really interesting question here is this:

Can humanity survive the ignorance of those whose opinions can be persuaded by gifts or cash rewards . . . Is it in the interest of the species to engage in a new round of Eugenics, thus purging the gene pool of such fools and imbiciles . . . .



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[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

not only is there a problem with those who deny, there is a huge problem with those who know about climate change, and think we can just adapt to it without making any changes.



[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 5 years ago

I can be starved out without cash

[-] 1 points by Ackhuman (-88) from Fairfax, VA 5 years ago

It's funny when people say "every alternative to capitalism has failed" when capitalism is on track to render our species extinct.


[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

and when either capitalism or fascism has been a giant force in creating their failure.


[-] 0 points by oldJohn (-646) 5 years ago

The best solution is not mentioned in your posting, and is quite obvious when we realize that at all times a vast number of cars are parked. Cars should be state owned, and computers should drive and allocate trips. From the get go, this reduces clutter since computer projections can calculate exactly how many cars are needed for a city thus by reducing the number of parked cars to a minimum. When someone needs a car, he uses a cellphone or his computer to call the closest one. He can also state where he intends to go and how many passengers will make the trip. If a car is going in the same direction and has room, it will stop and car pool. If not, the closest car will drive itself to their house. Once a car has finished it's duties, it will park itself until the next call. Cars can move by themselves, so they can make sure their parking patterns are evenly spread throughout the city. If a car breaks down, another car is called for the passengers and an alert is dispatched to a repairing service. This way, the people don't have to wait for the repair. Car can replenish their source of energy by themselves, either by automatically going to service stations when not in use, or by connecting themselves to electrical service stations. There are already cars which are able to drive themselves and robotic swarms, so this technology is not far fetched. It would also reduce accidents as cars would be perfectly driven by robots.


[-] 0 points by DSamms (-294) 5 years ago

In 2012 more cars were sold in China than the U.S.

[-] -2 points by DeathsHead1 (-111) 5 years ago

True. Perhaps the point of this thread is that a population without cars is easier to control.

[-] -2 points by chuckuschumer (-366) 5 years ago

Ban all gas and diesel motors immediately. There that will solve everything. Right??

[-] -2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

I think the pollution problem in this world deserves a bit better analogy than this.


[-] 0 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

Although we are heading towards one gigantic

  • Corporate Shithole

So perhaps its spot on.

[+] -4 points by DeathsHead1 (-111) 5 years ago


[-] -1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 5 years ago

What is good? The smell?

[-] -2 points by DeathsHead1 (-111) 5 years ago

Wait a minute. Aren't you that filth that wants every US military person, and their children, to be killed?


[-] 3 points by inclusionman (7064) 5 years ago

MODS!!! Please get rid of this racist, offensive comment!

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 5 years ago

low class, racist, poor form, bad karma.

[-] 2 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 5 years ago

Agreed, there is no place for that bullshit here.


[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 5 years ago

They moved very fast after my 2nd message that included the "MODS" identifier. So maybe that's what works if you find objectionable comments.

[-] 2 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 5 years ago

Good, but not sure what you mean by "MODS identifier."


[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 5 years ago

My comment started with (identified by) a capitalized "MODS" in hopes they might see it.

Nothing more than trying to get their attention.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

Which superhero/s are you rocking today, vqKag2?

Didn't you get your ass kicked for having too many ID's?