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Forum Post: Campaign Reform

Posted 3 years ago on Oct. 5, 2011, 4:14 p.m. EST by distortion (196)
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There's been a post about demands, i think i saw riethc post a url to a site we can vote on what we want, and i've heard a lot of people say a lot of different things. We're getting it all wrong. We can't lose focus on what this is about, this is about the 99% fighting for our rights against the 1%, and the second we start introducing political beliefs and personal or religous beliefs then we lose. Political and personal beliefs are what keeps us from uniting as a people against those who oppress us. It's how they've been able to maintain power in the first place, keeping us fighting over mexicans and gay people while they pass bills that would starve our children. The reason this even gained momentum and notoriety is because it started as a protest against the financial institution, something that has no political ties and no belief structure that 99% of the people can stand behind. Don't turn this into a personal war for your own belief systems.

IN MY OPINION - the root cause of almost everyone of our problems, the financial industry especially, is tied to the fact that our politicians who run the country vote for whats in the best interest for the wealthy few who are able to finance their campaigns instead of the country and people who live in it. I think the one clear goal we should be focusing on is campaign reform, because as long as our leaders are bought and paid for it doesn't matter how many demands the meet the system is still rigged and will continue to operate in the favor of the few instead of the best interest of everyone. Once the leaders in the country rely on the well being of it's people then most our problems will fix themselves. But more importantly campaign reform has no political or religious ties and something 99% can get behind.

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[-] 2 points by eric1 (152) from Corona, CA 3 years ago

Good post, distortion. Unfortunately because the Congress and Executive Branch are largely in the pockets of the big monied interests, campaign finance reform(in any substantial way) will never occur on the initiative of the federal government. It could come though via a National Constitutional Convention which would originate at the state level. See link below for more info:

http://www.conconcon.org

[-] 1 points by Reigne (175) 3 years ago

We did have a constitutional convention in 2009 See www.cc2009.us

[-] 1 points by eric1 (152) from Corona, CA 3 years ago

That was a private Convention and not a legitimate one. The Constitution stipulates that a genuine Constitutional Convention is driven by the state legislatures(duly elected government).

[-] 1 points by Reigne (175) 3 years ago

IMO they were more legit that the "duly elected" because THEY would have abided by their Oath, whereas the 'duly elected" do not. Why would I - or anyone who is able to think critically - believe those that dishonor their Oath will suddenly honor it during a ConCon?

[-] 1 points by eric1 (152) from Corona, CA 3 years ago

Irregardless of how you perceive the particpants of either event, the law of the land is the Constitution and the Constitution specifies exactly what is recognized as a legitimate Constitutional Convention. That involves the duly elected state legislatures . . . for better or worse. If you're not happy with that set-up then you have to change the Constitution by amendment.

[-] 1 points by Reigne (175) 3 years ago

No, not for better or worse ... For only the time they honor their Oath.

[-] 1 points by distortion (196) 3 years ago

great link, news to me

[-] 1 points by distortion (196) 3 years ago

There in lies the problem, getting politicians to vote against the very system that allows them to be in power.

[-] 1 points by Reigne (175) 3 years ago

They will never pass a bill of valid/real campaign reform - that affects them personally.

[-] 1 points by Reigne (175) 3 years ago

Why don't we file Treason charges on the members of Congress for not abiding by their oath by fulfilling their Duty to Coin our money? That will force their hand to begin coining our money & quit using the FRB, or continue doing 'biz as usual' and be convicted of Treason.

[-] 1 points by distortion (196) 3 years ago

we can't even get them to stop let alone hang themselves for it

[-] 1 points by Reigne (175) 3 years ago

WE file the Treason docs to our local grand juries, they indict them, and then they are deemed guilty or innocent via Trial by Jury.

[-] 1 points by distortion (196) 3 years ago

is that actually possible...???

[-] 1 points by Reigne (175) 3 years ago

Yes, it's up to US to hold them accountable, and we CAN do it. It's not only possible, it's a viable solution to a lot of our nations problems. Plus, the folks who replace them will know it can happen to them ...

[-] 1 points by distortion (196) 3 years ago

I'm very curious how that process takes place... I'm not familiar with the process you have to go through to have a grand jury, i was under the assumption that was something only a state prosecutor could do?

[-] 1 points by Reigne (175) 3 years ago

Nope, you write up the docs, go to your county grand jury, and give them the docs. No lawyer or state prosecutor needed. The docs are on 8.5x11 paper, double spaced lines, each page numbered, and your signature on the last page. You give original and 1 copy to the grand jury.

[-] 2 points by Reigne (175) 3 years ago

My gift to you about Federal and State Grand Juries. http://www.weroar.ws/files/docs/Federal%20and%20State%20Grand%20Juries.pdf

[-] 1 points by distortion (196) 3 years ago

thanks!

[-] 1 points by Reigne (175) 3 years ago

You're welcome - thanks for being inquisitive ;o) Please feel free to share the book.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 3 years ago

fair enough