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Forum Post: Burning Question: What Would Life Be Like Without the Halliburton Loophole?

Posted 10 years ago on Dec. 8, 2011, 3:32 p.m. EST by GirlFriday (17435)
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[-] 1 points by economicallydiscardedcitizen (761) 10 years ago

A: The Giant Oil & Gas industries would find other ways to obfuscate the realities of their activities and it would take a massive effort for those outside it to enforce laws which are routinely violated both openly and secretly.

A commenter on the article's site summed up a good response here: SciGuy 2 days ago Voodoo3, I appreciate your perseverance in the face of (a surprising source of) ignorance.  I have a MS in geology and have many friends in the O&G industry, some of whom seem to have blinders on, also.  To say that We trust the O&G industry to do the right thing and disclose all chemicals and activities without having a gun to their head is just another sign of lambs being led to the slaughter.  Whether State or Federal enforcement happens doesn't matter as much as the fact that enforcement NEEDS to happen, PERIOD.(and it is NOT, currently)  We need Regulators we can trust to do their jobs and not be in the pocket of the O&G companies, as happened with the Dept of the Interior not too long ago.  

As for whether States or the Fed enforces the laws, that's a tough one.  As an example of a federal institution, the EPA may have the power to act but doesn't have the money or manpower.  The States may indeed be in a better position to enforce laws and restrictions, however the O&G industry, thru the efforts of their lobbyists, seem to hold more sway over State institutions than their Federal counterparts.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago


I keep running into this problem everywhere, underfund it to the point that the job doesn't get done.

[-] 0 points by economicallydiscardedcitizen (761) 10 years ago

As individuals we can probably protect ourselves by choosing to filter our water/distill it and then add back the healthy minerals we need if we can afford to do so and be proactive in finding and using oil and gas alternatives. Over time, maybe not in our lifetimes change will occur just like it did with asbestos in the last century.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

We have to stop this now. Not in a lifetime, not over time. We have to.

Same group of people has no problem opposing health care reform and then goes out of their way to make people sick. We need to be very careful of our water supply because some areas are running out. We have land that our farmers....farm and that will be destroyed.

As a nation, we can no longer continue to bend over for oil.

[-] 0 points by economicallydiscardedcitizen (761) 10 years ago

Agree completely and this is why more and more are doing things such as alternative energy projects. Keep positive that it can be done and thanks for sharing.

[-] -1 points by DunkiDonut2 (-108) 10 years ago

When I saw "Burning Question" I thought you was going to ask a question about something you caught from a hot date.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

Of course you did. I expect as much from a gorbellied unchin-snouted footlicker.

[-] 0 points by DunkiDonut2 (-108) 10 years ago

Everything but, a footlicker.