Forum Post: Building a team: Committe to Educate the Movement,
Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 15, 2011, 4:46 p.m. EST by MattE
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Hello, my name is Matt, a recent college graduate with a Bachelors degree in Business Administration, and a minor in Economics. My brief years of business experience have seen me working at small mom-and-pop operations and NYC based commercial enterprises. My job-wanted headliner typically reads: "Market Research Analyst with strategic mind and public speaking skills looking to use his powers for good." I intend to do just that:
One of the issues I'm continually observing with the movement, is that although the general values and motivations are well placed, many well-intending members are continually frustrated at how difficult it can be to find legitimate, unbiased information on some of the more complex issues underpinning out current economic turmoil. The result has been a movement that lacks a homogenous vision, undermining it's core goals . For the OWS movement to succeed, the world must see that it's members are open-minded, and well educated on the issues at hand.
That having been said, I'm writing today to see if there's interest in forming a sub-group of OWS tasked with educating and informing the movement on the following: -Legal and Political issues pertaining to resent economic setbacks. -How to best represent the movement and it's values to the public. -Economics and Capitalism -Campaign spending reform, and transparency. -Realistic solutions to return the global economy to a healthy, prosperous state -Being an educated consumer. -Historical perspective
What we need: individuals with education and experience in the above fields, to help inform those who could benefit. I believe this effort needs to be an in-person affair, to maximize it's impact. My personal vision is of impromptu lectures being setup at OWS sites, provided at no cost to those who will listen.
For this to succeed however, all of the educators must be on the same page. For example, If two economics instructors differ in professional opinion on a given topic they shall agree to teach the controversy, applying equal weight to both viewpoints. That means there must be consensus. I propose a meeting in NYC of all interested in this project, to establish these guidelines. Let me know in this thread, or via PM if your interested. I intend to be on the next train to New York if there's interest.
Capitalism and Democracy will fail when enlightened minds are drowned by the roar of the misinformed. Let the world see that OWS is united in giving voice to Knowledge and Informed Choice.
Scientia potentia est, -Matt E.
Matt,
You may be interested in PlainSite at http://www.plainsite.org . It could be used as a tool both to educate people and to effect change.
Aaron
Nice, some reading for the train ride!
i understand what you are doing. i intend to set up a google apps account and google group(forum) for project management. i am taking a poll right now to assist in configuring the group. i imagine having people from both sides of the isle working on topics relevant to each parties interest then informed debate among the community directed by leaders of both sides to create not just an educational environment but one of inclusion and trust building. this would be a long term project made to last well beyond the ows protest.
link to the poll i am taking.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?hl=en_US&pli=1&formkey=dFlNNHJTRlZwMWs5ZjlhTWN0NlZReHc6MQ
Sounds interesting, if not promising.
i replied to the im
Well, if anyone cares, as I've been frequenting this forum, I have a bachelors of science in international business... so there's a little bit of expertise behind what i say. I say international business has run amok of the interests of the 99%.
I care. As should others. The US economy sneezes, the world catches a cold.
Would you be willing to expand on your observations, either here, or as part of an intellectual discussion in NYC with other people across various business and economic disciplines?
"The US economy sneezes, the world catches a cold." The US people protest, the world rises up in revolution. That, too, is true =)
i wish i could come to nyc, but can't, so i post here... i have various posts here that expound on how i feel: amendment to separate business from govt (including banning corporate personhood and money as free speech) i am not anticapitalist - any -ism will fail unmonitored.... i feel we need to put a short leash on corporations again so that real capitalism can fluorish again, where everyone has a fair shot i keep saying no more wall street capitalism, bring back main street capitalism, decentralize economic and political power, swing the power more toward the local level again, geography will always be an impediment to freedom in a physical world, you can't allow important decisions to be made by politicians in a white house far away.... greed exists, capitalism acknowledges it as human nature, allows legitimate self-interest to manifest economically to an extent, but legitimate capitalism also puts a leash on it, to protect the people from its ravages...
I generally agree with the above.
I don't think a centralized or decentralized government is the headline issue, but "made to order" legislation for corporations in bed with politicians is indeed one of the central reasons we're in this state. One need only look at the Wall street bailouts, delivered with barely a wrist slap, to see that at work.
anytime power becomes centralized, the common people lose, the human being is most powerful on the local level... wall street IS that centralized power
I agree but lets not go in an elitist direction because that will alienate those without a formal education, also it can be construed to mean that we don't appreciate their contributions. Remember commonsense can't be taught
Of course, but whose saying it should be elitist?
I am saying that using rhetoric that suggests that educated people are more valuable to the movement than uneducated ones is elitist in nature and could alienate others.
I wasn't accusing you of elitism but that your reasoning could be construed as such so you should choose you words carefully. To make sure opponents can't accuse us of holding such views.
Understood. Thanks for pointing that out; I choose poor language. By "uneducated" I meant as experts in the fields I referenced. Someone with say, an advanced degree in physics might still benefit from hearing their academic analog in Economics deliver a lecture on long term/short term econ models.
Again, it was poor language choice, and I'll edit my initial post. Thanks for the catch!
we can't risk any criticism, I mean the media criticizes us as it is but for now they have to resort to falsehoods and half truths lets keep it that way
I agree Cicero. Keep it open to everyone. It will all come together in an organic way. We are all equal. Through honest discussion, even with the most intransigent people, can come great things. Everyone needs to have an open mind, but MattE, don't give up. Do your thing as well!
I submit that people need self-filtered minds. Reject Opinionated pundits (from either party!), extremest views, and wild speculation.
Remember, those among us who have rational, realistic ideas, will struggle to be heard over those promoting extreme views that have little to no grounding in reality.
Exactly, MattE
MattE has the right Idea drawing on FDR's "brain trust". FDR choose people for his cabinet who were leaders in their field instead of his political allies or his buddies.
I just don't want to give anyone anything to criticize us about.
::nods::
What would be the economic theory underlying your education on "Economics and Capitalism?"
I'm sorry, can you be more specific with this question? Also, my personal viewpoint would take a back seat to someone more educated in the field.
Well, there's a strong Austrian economics contingent here on this site that is not representative of the larger OWS movement, and I just wonder if you're part of that.
Glad you noticed that. There are a lot of people trying to pull off an "Inception" and plant their own ideas into an impressionable movement's minds.
It sounds like we need some economists to teach the membership about various economic theories then.
Please forgive my ignorance, but Austrian Economics support the free market, with little government intervention or over-site, correct? I personally do not agree with this as an across-the-board policy. I think it's a good starting point for a given industry/market, and then as various industries (such as bail-out banks) show they can't handle this freedom, intervention is needed.
I don't disagree with that position, and, I don't necessarily think Keynes would, either. :)
Time to get money out of politics on both sides of the aisle and fix our corrupt and bought out trade, tax and banking system.
http://www.getmoneyout.com/
http://www.dylanratigan.com/2011/08/09/dylan-ratigan-mad-as-hell-his-epic-network-moment/
http://www.dylanratigan.com/2011/08/03/job-wanted-jobs-ending-rigged-trade/
http://www.dylanratigan.com/2011/08/04/jobs-wanted-ending-rigged-tax-code-jobs/
http://www.dylanratigan.com/2011/08/05/jobs-wanted-ending-rigged-banking-jobs/
what does that have to do with my post?
Not sure how an education committee would implement education, so I'm not sure if I'm an advocate or not..
But I think I'd advocate for a Fact-checking Committee. It would be great if everyone protesting knew more about the misleading statistic from the Tax Foundation that spawned the "53%". It would also be nice if things like reasons to abolish the fed were factchecked so people could assess where they stand.
Fair enough. I'd say it's a similar mission at the end of the day.
Thoughts on how to go about that then?
I guess by taking a list of the claims made by fringe groups either criticizing OWS or within it trying to hijack the narrative with punchy slogans ("Abolish the Fed", 53%, abolish corporations) and publishing fliers that simply give a more informed viewpoint on these matters. Even matters that we seem to agree with like getting money out of politics completely needs more structure and input than it is getting. If we just abolished all campaign contributions from politicians, the only politicians we'd be left with are those rich enough to finance their own campaign. Maybe it would require pamphlets instead of fliers, but it's these small distinctions between punchy slogans and reality that need to be made.
Or maybe just make some sort of publication to distribute and include a factchecking portion within it?
If you are unfamiliar I recommend looking into these groups
http://thevenusproject.com/
http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/
As for education, there's a whole bunch of topics provided online for free.
outsourcing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLZxXHXtbtE
technological unemployment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joWD5vQvkfk
Inflation tax:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTUY16CkS-k
cyclical consumption: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFRXlBFkUxo
Corporatism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbxZhx2eENo
Media Blackouts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoeIdZmow54
The hard part is organizing them to explain a topic to a particular target audience. Here are some other resources for free information
http://www.khanacademy.org/
http://www.ted.com/
http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm
http://oedb.org/library/beginning-online-learning/200-free-online-classes-to-learn-anything
http://oyc.yale.edu/
http://www.nasonline.org/
http://www.coursehero.org/
http://www.just-gov.com/
http://www.change-gov.com/
http://www.viewchange.org/
eeeeyea, the Zeitgeist movement, that's the type of thing I'm trying to avoid here. An example taken from their site:
"The more people who have cancer in America, the better the economy due to expensive medical treatments. Needless to say, this generates an inherent disregard for human well being."
That's just....wow.
By "inherent disregard" they refer to a problem within the structure of the system. I've actually heard the same complaint from professors directly within healthcare fields except they refer to the problem as the "iron triangle".
The 3 parts are: High Quality care, universal access to care, and of course money (obtaining a high profit by providing care).
It's never possible for all 3 to be available at the same time. At least one of the three MUST be weak within the current system. Many hospitals gain their income based on how fast they get patients in and out of the hospital. The shorter their average patient's stay the higher the hospital is rated and income gained. However, this forces many doctors to choose between rushing certain procedures vs maximizing the quality of care. Granted there is a shift over from the paper-based chart system to a more electronic system (Electronic Medical Record) to automate the process. But again how are the therapies recommended within the EMR decided and against/for what factors?
Even now there is an abundance of specialist trained doctors and a lack of generalists because the income gained is much less as a generalist. This doesn't include the lack of qualified professors to train them. And as the baby boomers reach retirement age, general practitioners will become overloaded even more.
Then there is insurance. Even if you paid premiums there was still a maximum amount of coverage provided. So if you had a chronic illness and sought traditional therapies, then you were SOL once you went over that cap. And most traditional western therapies are VERY expensive. Now, the recent reforms to healthcare are removing that cap and the insurance companies are expected to raise their premiums in order to compensate. So health insurance companies can make even more money by increasing the costs for healthy individuals.
I can go on but the point is, money is always factored into decisions. Even though all the doctors I've encountered are truly benevolent and really do want to help people, they are trained and limited by the current economic system just like everybody else.
Those that show evidence contrary to profitable therapies of a particular time are fought tooth and nail by Big Pharma and other corporate entities in the medical industry.
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/
Ok, so capitalism isn't perfect. That's easy to establish.
As pointed out by techjunkie, the proposed replacement by Zeitgeist movement is basically communism.
On paper, Communism is a sweet gig. We all do a little work, we all get to enjoy the good life, everyone wins. It's easy to sell that to people...
....Except those of us who've read the reviews. The USSR isn't a thing anymore, and things aren't so great quality-of-life wise for the average Chinese citizen. Communism was tried and didn't work.
And that's the core issue I'm fighting: Everyone is spouting theories and ideas on how to fix our broken system,often by scrapping the whole thing.
Here's the punchline: Our system is better than people are making it out to be, it's just become infected by some corruption and bad judgement.
They still relied on money and they centralized power.
The Zeitgeist Movement - Common Objections, Observations, Responses: http://vimeo.com/10802138
Despite common beliefs, power would not be centralized in a resource based economy.
Plus the USSR didn't have automation technology to free the workforce from labor and most service occupations. Today we do, and much of our economy is already run by machine labor. Heck technological unemployment (outsourcing jobs to machines) is one of the problems we face today in creating new job markets.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for self managed work, communities, and economies. It's probably the only rational step away from the current corporatist system.
And I don't mean to imply that a resource economy should be the 'be all, end all' system. I just see it as one very good alternative 'if' two conditions can be met.
In the meantime I would just like a little more reasoning when important decisions are made.
The second condition is the deal breaker. Humans are Humans. THAT will never change. Sadly.
Meh, I've seen enough people change to know it's possible.
It's just a big pain in the a$$ with some.
The personal development community is great at this:
NLP, paraliminals, incantations, spirituality, motivational stuff, etc.
One example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mIcP17jLhk&feature=related
Shifting one's values and habits in favor of others isn't too difficult in a post-scarcity environment. It just appears impossible when you lack the right situation.
But for reference, in most cases these individuals suffer in relationships because of their extreme addictions and lack a sense of fulfillment. If surrounded by others of a similar value set, then these issues become less noticeable. Again, the situation/ environment is key.
Oh nice, always looking for Isebyrt nominees...
Here's hoping some of the founders double up and get the Darwin too...
Wanna be depressed? They have half a million members, according to their site.
I think that I've heard of this "resource-based economy" stuff before and it was basically communism.
Sounds about right.
There is a lot of penned up grievances and hurt and insecurity.
Unfortunately, Congress is thumping its collective nose at the people, giving the people the proverbial finger whilst indulging in self-serving partisan politics.
OWS should direct its anger at a dysfunctional Congress holding the US economy hostage to its partisan politics
I would like to follow your progress, but this forum is too full of spams.
Do you have your own blog?
I do not have a blog for this at the moment. But a Blog would make a nice place to organize things.
Are there others interested in this?
(if nothing else, bump achanas comments as you read this, to send the message)
Nothing spreads faster than the lyrics of a good song. I suggest that together we either choose or write an official Song/Anthem for Occupy Wall Street Movement.
Come on lets start..
Peter Shiff has some input. He thinks that you should educate the Occupy Wall Street movement "so that it knows what it's protesting against", "so that it can be merged into the Tea Party":
http://www.moneytrendsresearch.com/herman-cains-9-9-9-plan-occupy-wall-street/
(that part is in the last minute.)
I haven't gotten throught the whole video yet, I'm in the middle where he is hammering and re-hammering home his asinine points about the 999 plan. This is the most asinine, double talking analysis of a consumption tax and what saved money does for the economy that I have ever heard in my life. The double talking is very appopriate, in view of the fact that Herman Cain appears to be an expert double talker.
Can't wait to hear what he says about occupy wall street now.
I agree and that's my point. Beware of people who seek to "educate" the protesters.
But this guy isn't educating, he's spouting his opinion. He's just another pundit.
Fine line, isn't it? That's my point.
Then it sounds like you'd agree with my call for real education. It equips people with the knowledge to pick pundit from expert.
You didn't follow at all did you. Okay I'll try again.
I think that we should educate everybody about how the unemployment rate among people with college degrees is only about four percent. And we should pass out links to free vocational training programs so that people could get jobs.
Get it yet?
Sidebar, regarding that table you linked to: What about college grads under 25?
I only see non-veterans over 18.
And I guess your saying that giving people just the facts will make these problems go away?
He just said "China gives communism a good name"!
Haha omg, what the fuck, yes, you too can have forced abortion and get locked in the factory with no food til you meet production quotas! Bring on the communism!
I assume that he means in economic terms, by succeeding through an impure form that's really closer to capitalism. It's a goof analogy since his comparison is the US making "capitalism" look bad through recent failures, when what we have isn't really capitalism, just like what the Chinese have isn't really communism. Since if it were, then there would have been no bank bailout.
If it's not capitalism, what is it then?
I'd say the US is still capitalist, it's just not "pure" capitalism. It's still more capitalist than communist or socialist.
PS: I also disagree with the bail out decision.
okay got it now : )
What "values" of the movement do you intend to represent to the public?
A great question!
I think it's best to outline those values with the help of the people who volunteer for the committee. The more people we get, the better the representative sample of opinions. Then, through the lecture series (not intended to be one way communication!) we revise and advise as needed.
But that means that the Education Committee would be appointing itself as the arbiter of Occupy Wall Street's official values and "core goals". It's my understanding that this movement is against having a small committee that determines what the group stands for.
so the movements values are not having any particular values other than frustration? At some point, won't there need to be at least some form of conscious?
What if we ditch the "values" topic then? I'm open to that.
I've been asking that same question for a week. My take on it, which nobody seems to object to, is that this movement is a little like the Schrödinger's cat thought experiment, where the cat could theoretically be either alive or dead -- until you look to see. This movement doesn't officially alienate anybody, even the 1%, as long as it doesn't stand for anything in particular. But once you try to adopt official positions on things, the cat has to be either alive or dead, and you're going to alienate somebody. Once you start educating people about the Fed, you're either going to alienate the anti-Fed Ron Paul supporters or you're going to alienate the big-government socialists who consider the Fed to be on their side. Once you pick one side you alienate the other.
but without standing for something, isn't the movement...nothing?
Yes, that has been exactly my point for at least the last week. I came here to find out what it's all about, and I've concluded that it's all about nothing. It depends on who you ask. The only consensus is that there should be no consensus. The exceptions that prove the rule are the people who believe that there IS consensus, each of them with a different idea about what there is consensus about.
True. Many more people will come to your side when you are proactive (for “new” Business & Government solutions), instead of reactive (against “old” Business & Government solutions), which is why what we most immediately need is a comprehensive “new” strategy that implements all our various socioeconomic demands at the same time, regardless of party, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 10% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves; that is, using a Focused Direct Democracy organized according to our current Occupations & Generations. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategically Weighted Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do this at:
http://getsatisfaction.com/americanselect/topics/on_strategic_legal_policy_organizational_operational_structures_tactical_investment_procedures
Join
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/
because we need 100,000 “support clicks” at AmericansElect.org to support a Presidential Candidate -- such as any given political opportunist you'd like to draft -- in support of the above bank-focused platform.
Most importantly, remember, as cited in the first link, that as Bank Owner-Voters in your 1 of 48 "new" Business Investment Groups (or "new" Congressional Committees) you become the "new" Congress replacing the "old" Congress according to your current Occupation & Generation, called a Focused Direct Democracy.
Therefore, any Candidate (or Leader) therein, regardless of party, is a straw man, a puppet; it's the STRATEGY – the sequence of steps – that the people organize themselves under, in Military Internet Formation of their Individual Purchasing & Group Investment Power, that's important. In this, sequence is key.
Why? Because there are Natural Social Laws – in mathematical sequence – that are just like Natural Physical Laws, such as the Law of Gravity. You must follow those Natural Social Laws or the result will be Injustice, War, etc.
The FIRST step in Natural Social Law is to CONTROL the Banks as Bank Owner-Voters. If you do not, you will inevitably be UNJUSTLY EXPLOITED by the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government who have a Legitimate Profit Motive, just like you, to do so.
Consequently, you have no choice but to become Candidates (or Leaders) yourselves as Bank Owner-Voters according to your current Occupation & Generation.
So please JOIN the 2nd link so we can make our support clicks at AmericansElect.org when called for, at exactly the right time, by an e-mail from that group, in support of the above the bank-focused platform. If so, then you will see and feel how your goals can be accomplished within the above strategy as a “new” Candidate (or Leader) of your current Occupation & Generation.
Care to guess where you lost my support and trust in your system?
on the site you link to: "there's only one way to do it " The first sign of trouble, when someone tells you their way is the only way.
Read the proposal in detail, it gets pretty entertaining. It's so over-the-top that it won an Iserbyt Award.
The fact that that award exists made my day. Thank You.
What we are creating is a Bottom 90% of Workers who ALREADY have the Individual Purchasing and Group Investment Power to CONTROL the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government IF, and only IF, they are LOYAL to themselves as BOTH Customer-Investors and Employee-Investors. In order to become both Customer-Investors and Employee-Investors – at the same time – they become Bank Owner-Voters, and thus make Business Loans to themselves in their 1 of 48 "new" Business Investment Groups by current Occupation and Generation. Business Loans control ALL Businesses. Why? Because Business Loans finance 90% of the Assets of ALL Businesses. Therefore, if the Bottom 90% of Workers CONTROL 90% of the Assets of ALL Business, then they CONTROL the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government, right? What they DON”T control is the Knowledge Power of the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government, which Knowledge Power can NEVER be taken, only GIVEN, if technical (or mathematical) enough. Consequently, that technical (or mathematical) Knowledge Power of the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government MUST be paid up to 12 times MORE than Minimum Wage (and sometimes much more for things like Patents) for having made the EFFORT to acquire that Knowledge Power, but this is only true of your 50% Global Investment Groups in Commodities, Technology, Manufacturing, Insurance, Justice, and Banking (which are all very technical, and therefore hard-to-understand, requiring Knowledge Power), but is NOT true of your 50% Local Investment Groups in Wholesale, Vehicles, Services, Education, Retail, & Housing (which are all very basic, therefore easy-to-understand, requiring Knowledge Power that ANYONE can understand).
So is there any other way to create liberty and justice for all?
"Because Business Loans finance 90% of the Assets of ALL Businesses."
"Consequently, that technical (or mathematical) Knowledge Power of the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government MUST be paid up to 12 times MORE than Minimum Wage (and sometimes much more for things like Patents) for having made the EFFORT to acquire that Knowledge Power, but this is only true of your 50% Global Investment Groups in Commodities,"
Citations?
"Therefore, if the Bottom 90% of Workers CONTROL 90% of the Assets of ALL Business, then they CONTROL the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government, right? " -What are you on? That doesn't make any sense.
First, Business Loans for the Bottom 90% of Workers would finance 90% of the Assets of ALL Business as Bank Owner-Voters. Today's 10%, controlling 2/3 of all Wealth & Income, of course, have their own personal piggy bank, but the Bottom 90% of Workers don't, so they chip-in $500 apiece and become Bank Owner-Voters, right?
Second, the 12 TIMES MORE part is negotiable, but I'm trying to cut a fair deal with you, for I'm sure you can get by on a salary of $174,720/ year (or $7 Minimum Wage 40 Hours 52 Week * 12 = $174k), right?
Third, for the Bottom 90% of Workers, the Business Loans they vote-upon in their 1 of 48 Business Investment Groups will decide whether their Individual Business Proposals live or die among the other Bottom 90% of Workers in their Occupation & Generation, right? This mean the Bottom 90% of Workers will CONTROL 90% of the Assets of ALL Businesses (until their paid-off, in which case they'll need new Assets).
I'm AM on a different planet than you, it's called Liberty & Justice For All, including you.
Your still missing the citations for that data.
Enjoy planet liberty. Earth says "Hi."
I love you, but obviously no one has taught you to READ and THINK critically (about the above) before you respond LOGICALLY, not EMOTIONALLY. Peace is the absence of all emotion except love, and so is good judgment. And please don't respond with yet another insult just because I criticized your critical thinking abilities, for this only damages your reputation, not mine.
I gave you hard evidence; your emotions of greed overrode your sense of Justice (or God).
The use of CAPLOCKS emphasizes important words.
My authority is 27 years of Business Analysis as a Marine, Certified Public Accountant, Computer Programmer, and Socioeconomic Analyst.
As for my assumptions, wisdom is justified by all those who observe the world closely in search of Liberty & Justice For All.
so I ask for citations and hard evidence, while you use the capslock key like it's going out of style, and I'm the one rushing to emotions?
Fine, forget the citations, what background do you have that gives some authority to this idea of yours? An honest question. Right now it's all based on assumptions that things will go according to your plan.
I just want to make a suggestion, Drape your self in American flags, Chant USA, Long Live People of USA and then march down the street all to way to the Wall Street and Headquarters of Big Banks (Bank of America, Goldman etc). no doubt cops will try and stop you and arrest you bust just wave the flag and chant USA. There are only two choices either they will allow you to pass (highly unlikely) or they will stop and arrest you in any event it will be a major public reaction fiasco for the wall street and the big bankers as story will be Americans arrested for chanting USA.. What do you think about this tactic?
I think it would be almost as effective as trolling this site.
very simple Matt:
Here's how we can easily Reform Wall Street: Take away their powers "once again." And a Million People March on The Hill will help a lot!
For example, "We are here Congress because we want to bring REINSTATE the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 http://www.investopedia.com/articles/03/071603.asp#axzz1aPEc3wX which help saved our country from the Great Depression by preventing investment companies, banks, and insurance companies from merging and becoming large brokerage firms; instead of just being Banks and Insurance companies--why can't we learn a history lesson here Congress? Btw, why did most of you vote for its final repeal in 1999? http://www.counterpunch.org/2008/09/19/shattering-the-glass-steagall-act
Think about where we are now, it all started in 1999 with the subprime loans Senator Phil Gramm was peaching on Senate floor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKQOxr2wBZQ&feature=related
Furthermore, we also want you to CHANGE the Commodities Future Modernization Act of 2000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Futures_Modernization_Act_of_2000 BACK to where it was before 2000, which since has deregulated energy markets and consequently allowed for such scams as The Enron Loophole; whereas in the early 2000's Enron Corp. was charging 400 bucks plus for a kilowatt hour...They all when to jail for this. But, the Enron loophole is still not closed, for example, allowing speculators to resell barrels of oil over and over again before it reaches the gas station owner. It's basically, legal gambling at our expense. What were those lawmakers thinking then? What are you thinking now? Either do the right think, or you're part of the 1%."
Why are oil prices high? The Enron Loophole
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbdtTGYQBMU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNp0y0SjOkY&feature=related
Rolling Stones Reporter: Truth about Goldman Sachs--how they have cornered the markets--basically, The Enron Loophole and the Repeal of Glass-Steagall Act in 1999. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waL5UxScgUw
Let's get focused and bring back Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, they got it right 1933, we don't need to REINVENT the wheel because bringing this Act back will create an even playing field once again....and let's finally Close the Enron Loophole, which allowed Enron to charge what they wanted for energy; they went to jail for this; but no one closed the loophole, why? Re-election Monies from the banks and oil companies! The writing is on the wall.
::heroically punches thread hijacker in the face::
Now where were we?
as always, finding what's the best for all
Somebody always appoints themselves in charge of that.