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Forum Post: Both Mass Shootings (aurora and newton) Connected To Libor! HOLLY BATMAN!

Posted 5 years ago on Dec. 17, 2012, 12:16 p.m. EST by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN
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In the wake of the mass murders that took place in Newtown, Connecticut on Dec. 14, information on the shooter, and his family, is slowly being discovered by law enforcement other sources. One interesting connection to the tragedy that took place at the Sandy Hook school is that the father of Adam Lanza has a connection to the theater shootings that took place in Aurora earlier this year by James Holmes.

Both fathers of the shooters were allegedly expected to testify in the Libor scandal that rocked the banking world in June.

The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested.

Libor scandal grows as the fathers of two mass murderers were to testify Ladies and gentlemen, we have a motive and a link. This coincidence is impossible to overlook. Two mass shootings connected to LIBOR.

Libor is the internal banking interest rate that major financial institutions determine each day for lending purposes between each facility. This rate is then translated to the interest rates used for mortgages, student loans, credit cards, and nearly every interest bearing loan in the world. Manipulation of the Libor rate has resulted in hundreds of billions, if not trillions of dollars in fraudulent payments made by billions of customers throughout the financial world.

For similar events on the magnitude of both Aurora and Newtown to hold a connection to one of the greatest financial scandals in the history of finance is astronomically slim in regards to coincidence. In fact, neither shooter had a history with firearm proficiency, and the outcome of each shooting showed an expertise many trained military personnel could not achieve. This leaves the question of where they got their training, or if there was another plot involved which allowed these young men to perform the actions they did with such precision.

While the coming days will bring forth more pertinent information on the motives, access, and failures of both community and family to diagnose the events leading up to Adam Lanza's killing spree, one thing is becoming disturbingly clear. The connections between the Aurora massacre, and the one that took place in Newtown on Friday, may have far more ramifications to the people involved in the Libor scandal than anyone could imagine.



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[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (22863) 5 years ago

GE owns 49% of NBC Universal.

[-] 2 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 5 years ago

mind boggling.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22863) 5 years ago

Isn't it?

[-] 3 points by Ache4Change (3340) 5 years ago

Just as an observation, I know for a fact that your comment was +4 just a very short time ago, because I twinkled it at +3!!! You make a short, simple true statement about GE and you get shilled!! Now that's 'mind boggling - is't it' too?! Please also see - http://www.nationofchange.org/building-nonviolent-culture-after-newtown-1355757331 and read, by Bill Moyers - http://www.nationofchange.org/nra-enabler-death-1355760591 . Never Give Up Speaking Up! Occupy The Issues! My best wishes for the holidays to you and yours and to (nearly) all on this forum too. Solidarity.

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (22863) 5 years ago

Too much. The corporate/NRA drones are out today. Thanks for the links and much peace to you and yours too.

[-] 3 points by Ache4Change (3340) 5 years ago

"Every year there are 30,000 gun deaths and 300,000 gun-related assaults in the U.S.," he said. "Firearm violence may cost our country as much as $100 billion a year. Toys are regulated with greater care and safety concerns than guns ... we have become so gun loving, so blasé about home-grown violence that in my lifetime alone, far more Americans have been casualties of domestic gunfire than have died in all our wars combined." - from the Bill Moyers link above. Solidarity and peace for BW for all! Never Stop Occupying Head, Heart & Hope! Occupy The Twinkle! Peace.

[-] 2 points by Ache4Change (3340) 5 years ago

Oh, I saw that article also, and I'm all over it, lol. Thanks though and from my first link from above - 'The Dec. 14 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Conn. that left 28 people dead—including 20 children— has sent shock waves through our society. It penetrated the elaborate defenses that we as individuals and as a culture have erected to live with the internal contradictions of the bargain we have made to both oppose and embrace violence. Occasionally reality exposes and trumps the cognitive dissonance of this uneasy but deeply embedded arrangement.' It is a very moving read and I strongly recommend it. Solidarity.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 5 years ago

Hey Friends,

Until this is sorted out, lets not be in a hurry to give up any rights.

[-] 2 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 5 years ago

Well said.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 5 years ago

Thank you Sparky.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

Do you have credible sources for this that you can share?

[-] 1 points by Toby99 (22) 5 years ago

Interesting video:

Includes the police audio from Sandy Hook.


[-] -1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

Set to testify back in June? So you're suggesting those involved in libor made their kids kill people even though they never actually testified against anyone? I'm at a loss for the connection.

[-] 2 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 5 years ago

no i am suggesting those at the top of the scandal let the people at the bottom of the scandal know what time it was. that is my take on it. i could be wrong. it is a developing story. but from this connection alone it is clear that there is more going on than meets the eye. kind of like the maid who killed the kids and then tried to kill her self or so they say but she was not just any maid but a media executives maid whose company cnbc just released a story on the 43 trillion dollar banker lawsuit. i don't have a smoking gun but something ain't right and i don't put anything past these fucks after all they have killed presidents and other public leaders.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

There's not enough evidence to link anything. Keep us posted as details arise I guess.

[-] 2 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 5 years ago

there certainly is. the circumstances are enough evidence to link the acts.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

I don't think this would quite fall into the circumstantial area yet. It needs more to back it.

I really hope something comes of that 43 trillion dollar lawsuit. I posted about it several times myself. I already know the big banksters and many corporations are guilty of murder on some and many levels. They created a Wall Street government that starts wars for profit and resources.

[-] 4 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 5 years ago

between wars, 9-11, and political assassinations (jfk, rfk, mlk) it is pretty clear the depths they will stoop to.

[-] 2 points by Toby99 (22) 5 years ago

Interesting video:

Includes the Police audio from Sandy Hook.


[-] 3 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

I definitely find the man in the woods with camo pants very questionable. I wish there was an interview with police about the man they handcuffed.

I wish the guy in the video you linked didn't talk over the video and audio.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8631) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

I would say you have stumbled onto a genetic line of Sociopaths rather than conspiracy, even so this is an important fact to consider.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (22863) 5 years ago

You hit the nail on the head. Everyone is blaming the mother. What of the father?

[-] 3 points by GypsyKing (8719) 5 years ago

Here factsrfun I think you have come to the truth of the matter.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

I don't care if both Holmes and Lanza were scheduled to testify about Libor. People should know when to mind their own business and the Brits need to worry about Libor. True or not, this is blueblood BS and we don't need it.

[-] 0 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 5 years ago

you don't care? do you have any idea how huge libor is? the sky is literally falling. that is how big it is. wake the fuck up.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

You wake up. If they were both going to testify then how can we even find out for sure? What do people in the UK have to say about this? At this point it's just a conspiracy theory.

[-] 1 points by rayolite (461) 5 years ago

Information sources have been divided by 9-11. Attitude now controls which one Americans will believe and invest in.

quantumystic wrote: "its not on the mainstream radar yet give it a few hours.

I noticed this with the Aurora shooting.

The big lie of 9-11 was used to discredit alternative info sources. Loads of BS was given material credibility on the internet as a "alternative". That was intentionally mixed with truth.

Then icons of the infiltration mocked ALL of it, *generalizing" it all to maximums. The Americans that accepted the generalizations will believe nothing from the alternative sources now. They have the attitude that it is all BS.

Media never shows any of it, which is used to confirm it is not worthy. The masses never learn the facts.

[-] 1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 5 years ago

alex jones is going to have a heart attack today when he finds out.

[-] 2 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago


[-] 0 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

In Aurora all of the attention was laid on the congressperson who didnt die, rather than the Federal Judge she was working on things with who DID die.

And who is Lanza's dad? A VP of GE Capital married to a gun nut woman? Id really like to see that one.

[-] 1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 5 years ago

stinks to high heaven does it not?


[-] 3 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

the kill them all mentality is part of the problem in society.

What ever happened to preaching for due process and putting people in prison for their crimes after being found guilty in a court of law?

Of course we have to get the corruption out of the courts and the government. These banks have created a Wall Street government where they are protected under the veil of "national security"


[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 5 years ago

ZD, are you getting help? If not, you need to man. I like you. Get help.


[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 5 years ago

Just kill them all? That has a fairly final ring to it in a nation with 600,000,000 guns, more or less. You might want to give that idea a re-think. Ghandi was unafraid to expose himself to being shot, but under no circumstances would he shoot Anyone and become just another part of the problem, just another cog in the slowly turning meat grinder of evil.

Here, in my opinion, he was Absolutely Right.

This is not just a matter of ethics, it is a matter of whether what we are trying to do here maters at all.

No Violence!!!

On that question I am empassioned . . . No Violence!!!

"They can have my dead body, but not my cooperation."

-Mohandas Ghandi

[-] -1 points by Toby99 (22) 5 years ago

Did he?

"Gandhi advocated the right to bear arms; use of 'violence' to defend innocents against bullying, oppression"



[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 5 years ago

Take that link and put it where the sun don't shine.

Ghandi was totally commited to non-villence. I have read not just his autobiography, but William Shirer's first had account of him and his views, and also about 4 biographies of him. I have studied his philosophy . . . and he was totally committed to non-violence. It was the fundamental tenet of his politics, his teachings, and his spitirual thought.

So take that link, whereever you dredged it up, and put it where the sun don't shine.

Have you ever looked yourself in the mirror? If you have the courage to look, I'll tell you what you see: I'll tell you what you see: a craven, degraded thing that would sell any lie, deface anything holy, sell your own mother if necessary without a second thought, for gain.

Nothing else could lead someone to push the kind of despicable lies that you and your friends sell here.

How'd that Romney thing go for you? Enjoying yourselves down there?