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Forum Post: Boston massacre a psy-op?

Posted 11 years ago on April 20, 2013, 9:04 a.m. EST by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai
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That's what Lt. Col. Potter claims in a video posted to Youtube, with additional information at Veterans Today:

Boston Terror: The Real Attack




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[-] -1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

For me, antisemitism is the indiscriminate condemnation of all Jews. I really don't know enough about Gordon Duff to defend him, but my guess would be that he is critical of some Jews for some offenses.

No race of people in the world is completely innocent, so I would have to assume that the activities of some Jews are worthy of criticism.

As for the ADL, sometimes I have to wonder if it is an organization established to cover-up the abuses committed by some Jews.


[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

You can deny it all you like.

You can even pretend the ADL isn't what it is.

The man is still an antisemitic, unworthy of being quoted.

Don't you think there's enough loony toon conspiracy theories around as it is?

I know I do.

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

I believe that the mainstream narrative is a "looney tune", and that's why we're in the middle of biggest breakdown crisis, not just since the Great Depression, but since the new Dark Ages.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago


He's still antisemitic.

Plus I guess you're entitled to a point of view, even deep within highly censored China.

[-] 0 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

You're entitled to your opinion.

The US is highly censored as well. Certain information is definitely not allowed in our mainstream media.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

As long as you understand that he's an antisemitic, you can opine anything else you like........and he'll still be an antisemitic.

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

I understand that your opinion is that he is anti-semitc. If you have some proof that he indiscriminately condemns Jews, I am willing to consider it.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

it's not an opinion.

He's an antisemitic and his web site is just barely this side of prisonplanet.

Since you didn't read it the first time, here it is again.


[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

For me, the ADL is not much of a credible source.

There are many articles from Veterans Today that I disagree with, but there are some that I take an interest in as well.

[-] 2 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

Guess everybody has an opinion.

I'm somewhat new to VT. I find some of Duffs work interesting, but I don't know a lot about him. Perhaps you'd rather have a go at someone I'm more familiar with, who is often said, by some, to be anti-semitic. That is, Lyndon Larouche:


[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Not so much an opinion as an interpretation of the mans words and deeds.

Make NO mistake, he IS antisemitic.

[-] 3 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

So, you're very quick to call someone anti-semitc, but are unwilling to confront Jewish racism. If you don't want to talk about racism, don't bring it up in the first place.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Not quick at all.

It took time and study.

He's antisemetic, as is the site you quoted.

Be careful. You're skating on some mighty thin ice here.

Now as to the OP and the fact that I provided all the info you need to debunk it?

Or what the hell, what's Larouche say about this?


Or does he even notice?

[-] 2 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

And what about "antigoyism" among the Jews? Nathanael Kapnner, a Jew who became Orthodox Christian, claims that the Talmud has this to say about gentiles:

“If a ‘goy’ (Gentile) hits a Jew he must be killed.” (Sanhedrin 58b)

“If a Jew finds an object lost by a ‘goy’ it does not have to be returned.” (Baba Mezia 24a)

“If a Jew murders a ‘goy’ there will be no death penalty.” (Sanhedrin 57a)

"What a Jew steals from a ‘goy’ he may keep.” (Sanhedrin 57a)

“Jews may use subterfuges to circumvent a ‘goy.’” (Baba Kamma 113a)

“All children of the ‘goyim’ (Gentiles) are animals.” (Yebamoth 98a)

“Girls born of the ‘goyim’ are in a state of ‘niddah’ (menstrual uncleanness!) from birth.” (Abodah Zarah 36b)

“The ‘goyim’ are not humans. They are beasts.” (Baba Mezia 114b)

“If you eat with a ‘goy’ it is the same as eating with a dog.” (Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)

“Even the best of the ‘goyim’ should all be killed.” (Soferim 15)

“Sexual intercourse between the ‘goyim’ is like intercourse between animals.” (Sanhedrin 74b)

“When it comes to a Gentile in peace times, one may harm him indirectly, for instance, by removing a ladder after he had fallen into a crevice.” (Shulkan Arukh, Yoreh De ‘ah, 158, Hebrew Edition only)

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Copy and paste without the source is just wrong.

All the so called "good books" are full of this sort of thing.

PS: the guys still an antisemetic.

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

Skating on thin ice am I? You can self righteously denounce people for anti-semitism, but if I mention Jewish racism, that's skating on skin ice. If Jews really behave as the Talmud recommends, its not surprising that Duff, or anybody, would be opposed to it.

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3874) 11 years ago

UNBELIEVABLY Disturbing!!!

What a brave Lieutenant. Thank you 'arturo' for this revealing information.

Very troubling indeed.


[-] 1 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 11 years ago

What if divide, isolate is the goal of the bombing?


I've noticed that the aurora shooting, sandy hook and now this all have solid alternative stories to what is seen on media.

Divide, and to isolate, segments of the population by virtue of the information they get or accept. Fearful people use the mms story, those seeking to know what is happening no matter what, can assemble a story which accounts for all the factors by using the alternative sources.

There seems to be bogus releases of info that are used to diminish the alt sources credibility.


[-] 1 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 11 years ago

The infiltrators of the gov seek to;

Justify increased security and surviellance.

Create a perceptional division where one part of the population refuses to believe anything from any source but mms thereby secured in their refusal to examine treason.

Establish a social filtering mechanism where those that question, because of the bizarre aspects of false conspiracy publicized by the elite in media unnaturally accented, are rejected with some form of justification albeit distorted.


[-] 1 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 11 years ago

In the analogy, the intersection is the virtual secrecy created in the resonant "big lie" and social incredulity ad ridiculum.

To change is to agree to know what is needed to be known to end the secrecy. This of course must be done without knowing what one does not yet know, because it is secret.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

I would say that it's quite easy to stage a shootout, and we both know what smoke grenades look like, right?

Have a look at this set of photos, and the accompanying text, written by an experienced first responder to traumatic injury.



[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

Just sharing is all, ZD.

Fill me in on the Rodney King thing, if you've got the time.


[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

Thanks. I'm not surprised that resulted in riots.

Early in the video, you see one cop trying to restrain the other, but then it turned into a free-for-all.


[-] -2 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

That site is down for "maintenance".

Still not convinced of the legitimacy of the whole story.

Getting both legs blown off kills most people.


[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 years ago

Found this expose' Interview of Gordon Duff & Stew Webb. I just ran the first 30 minutes, it is 3 hours total. But it seems to be a wild ride about TPTB.


[-] 2 points by Renneye (3874) 11 years ago

Thanks, Ma. ~.^

Leaving for a music recital...I'll check it out when I get back!

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 years ago

Is this an Anarchy Group based on Constitutional Authority?

http://michigandejure.org/n/ (see a reference to Tea Party, but they seem to advocate Anarchy, seizing local power from Federal Power)


Haven't heard of Blogtalkradio.com

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/live (one guys says he was notified that Boston Crisis will need him to cancel a show coming up this week)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlogTalkRadio BlogTalkRadio is a web-based platform that allows callers to host a live call-in Internet broadcast using a computer and a phone.[1][2]

See also

  • Justin.tv
  • Livestream
  • Lifecasting (video stream)
  • Tinychat
  • Ustream


[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

Glad to hear it interests you. Start spreading the news.


[-] 1 points by Renneye (3874) 11 years ago

Doing that right now! Thanks again arturo. They're f#cking madmen!

[-] 1 points by doitagain (234) from Brooklyn, NY 11 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=7i_J6S8DXPI&feature=endscreen take a look at the video starting from 9.05 min Watertown Police Chief Edward Deveau tells their story of execution of older brother: police tried to handcuffed him [older brother], but from nowhere there was black stolen SUV and the SUV drove over him [older brother] and this is how he was killed.

[-] 0 points by SteadyRock (63) from New York, NY 11 years ago

Boston Police Take Naked Man Into Custody. The older brother was a bit smarter, - he appear naked, therefore they couldn't shut him down at the scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9D8mz83ht8

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 years ago

Gets U thinkin' Video of CSPAN Callers Asking for Law, Order, & Transparency:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq_1cyyGjb4&feature=player_embedded (Back to Back C-span callers - Boston Marathon Bombing a false flag to take away ...)

As an Aside: I was in a nice part of town during Rush hour today and I heard an Explosion coming across the intersection, but forgot to really look over later. It was too loud for a Back Fire... But maybe some thing similar or... maybe a kind of drill here in the Mid West. I really should check local news...

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 years ago
[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

I'm wondering how that whole family could be connected to the patsies, sorry, suspects in question.

[-] 3 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 years ago

It was posted like ... it was just a house to house search. The title was that how would you like to have a Swat Team show up and Point guns at your house and demand entry and to search?

So probably a lot of houses were evacuated or searched like this?

I didn't read comments. I guess I should go back.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

You can hear the chopper hovering at one point.

We had a "tactical response group" in my home state, and they made some incredibly bad calls of "judgement" that saw them in front of the judge themselves.

Watching that scene, it's hard to understand why the hell they need to frisk them twice. And it is an illegal home invasion without a warrant, right?

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 years ago

Seems George Bush Suspended the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions...... SO yes, it is illegal and I feel we would get more info from terrorist if we let them write books and talk to the press. I don't think the Death Penalty has any checks and balances. But that is what the Right is asking for. Apparently, the meme has been sent out asking for death.


A) Rendition
B) Torture in any country or transportation of prisoners to a foreign country for Torture.
C) Prisoners of War, since these are not an army, or part of an army, there is no state at war with the USA, There is no Army at war with the USA, ... these guys are terrorists, criminals, should be tried as criminals, evidence should be gathered, FBI or CIA should gather the evidence and make the case in from of a Jury.
D) The Right to Not incriminate yourself should be up held by the courts.
E) The right to have a Lawyer should be up held.
F) The right to a speedy trial and freedom from cruel punishment should be up held.
G) We should treat people as if they are Americans with the Rights of Americans.
H) The War on Terror is an artificial Construct.
I) The war on Drugs is an artificial Construct.
J) The War on Iraq is an artificial Construct.
K) The war on Afghanistan does not have a state enemy or an army to face. Therefore there is no war. It is a crime that is sought to be remedied.
L) You can not declare war on a Guerilla because they have no base, no logistical hub, no maintenance hub, no borders, no lines of communication, no army, no navy, no air force,... you can't declare war on an entity that you can't identify on a map. You might as well declare war on a corporation. It is only an idea. It is only ephemeral.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

I heard the story is that the younger brother drove an SUV over his older sib, killing him after arrest. That kinda absolves anyone from prosecution.

It's a messy case alright, and I'm guessing that the paramilitary suburban shutdown was the important aspect of the operation. Gotta keep that fear happening.

It's disaster capitalism for mine.

[-] 3 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 years ago

Uh, yes, I haven't yet studied it. I did hear a witness is saying that the police ran over the older brother disputing the official story. And just saw something saying well maybe the naked guy was the older brother... indicating well maybe the police just killed the older brother at some point. This seems far fetched as ... there were some media cameras ... presume some camera teams were not CIA managed media or that the CIA could not control 100% of the cameras viewing a naked man and identify the face.

Mixed reports still. And time after time.. confusion from police facts and lack of police transparency.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

I sometimes wonder if that isn't part of the fear campaign.

It's like, we know that you know, but we're gonna deny it, because you can't prove otherwise.

[-] 3 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 years ago

Shock Doctrine, The Rise of Disaster Capitalism, Naomi Klein,


I read through about 36 pages of her book over the weekend. There seems evidence that the TPTB plan out all kinds of Cultural Changes much like Mao's Cultural Revolution or Pol Pot's Cutlural Revolution.

Obviously we are seeing the results of years of planning and creating DHS & FEMA planning.... But recently of course we saw the Push for Gun Control after attempting to heighten Gun Violence in Mexico and take advantage of Aurora Movie Shooting, TDK, and School Shooting in New Town.

Naomi Klein takes us back to South America, Chile' & Argentina and how Milton Friedman came up with this Phrase which Naomi Calls Shock Doctrine to push radical changes as quickly as possible after a Major Catastrophy like Katrina where they privatized K-12 Schooling ... and 9-11 where Rights were suspended, War Doctrine Changed, people were told to be afraid of Terrorists, that "Our World Had Now Changed forever.

Milton Friedman Changed the World. And Margret Thatch was the first along with Ronald Reagan to embrace these Ideas in the UK & USA.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

Yes, the video by the same name is great. Seen it a few times, now.

The shock doctrine could rightly be called "disaster capitalism". The PTB create the disaster (global financial collapse, fiscal cliff) then offer a solution (austerity, sequester).

Such a shame that the Big Dumbing Down worked so well, and zombie consumerism is the new reality.

[-] 3 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 years ago

Zombie Pension Funds, Zombie Retirements, Zombie Economy, Zombie Politicians, Zombie Voters, Zombie Taxpayers, Zombie GDP, Zombie Fees to Wall Street Investment Banks, Zombie TARP, Zombie Federal Reserve Lending to Wall Street. Zombie Jobs without Benefits, Zombie Payments on Student Loans, Zombie Home Mortgages, Zombie War in Iraq, Zombie War in Afghanistan, Zombie Drone Strikes in Pakistan, Zombie US Police State, Zombie AMMO For DHS and Napolitano, Zombie Armored Vehicles for Department of Homeland Security, Zombie Congress for Sure!, Zombie US President Barak Obama, Zombie US Income Tax Code, Zombie Tax Loopholes for Wealthy Corporations & Executives, Zombie US Federal Subsidies for Corporations, and ... Zombie US Public glued to their TV Sets getting Zombie US Mainstream Media News.

Just trying to get the Juices flowing.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

Replace the last word with infotainment.

News it certainly is not.

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 years ago

True. Was just thinking the same thing today & Yesterday. It is an Entertainment Industry. Cable. Satellite. Radio. Whatever. Entertainment is money. Money is the Prime Directive.

Any Attempt at Education is privatized and then reprogramed to water it down.

The FTC in America is charged with protecting Consumers from Fraud. Therefore there should be an FTC Television Programing Agency to Run 24/7 Business Education, Financial Education, and Consumer Protection Education on Dedicated TV Channels on both Cable/Satellite and on Antenna Digital TV.

Our Government Agencies that Protect US Should Start doing their Job. They should Raise the Visibility & Transparency about the Loss of 84,000 Pension in the USA. They should Teach Everyone about the Loss of Wages & Benefits for US Workers.

Not sure who does that for Europe or Australia.....????

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

We still have strong independent political representatives, who champion causes like education and people's rights. In the last federal election it was down to five indies and green candidates as to which of the two major parties would end up with the top job. They basically got the majors to make offers on policy changes, until they got the best deal.

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 years ago

I don't know how to act when we get representation. thanx.


[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 years ago

One conspiracy should stand clear: Mueller, Director of FBI is a paid off man. He has not moved forward as a Whistleblower. He has not prosecuted Prosecution of TBTF Bankers by name. DOJ should be about Justice and the pursuit of Justice.

Well... if you have a director of the FBI, but he doesn't pursuit Justice ... does it matter if his boss says "No, we will give Waivers to TBTF Banks".

Do you think Tea Party guys, Constitution Guys, Justice Party Guys, Real Conservatives, Real Liberals will .... keep Director Mueller on the Job?

Of will we Prosecute Director Mueller???


[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 years ago

Read through the first 36 pages of Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism. She is an excellent writer.

But you know you could have written a few of the chapters. She talks about an American Doctor in Canada that used Electro Shock, Drugs, Sleep Deprivation, and other techniques to program people. One lady was a young nurse with simple stress or anxiety. She reverted to a child and would defecate or pee on herself. She lost her memory and didn't even remember that she had revert to a child later in life.

She didn't know she had every seen this doctor, or been part of a program (1950, I think). She didn't know why she had amnesia. She had lost her youth and lost her education it sounds like.

Again I have to say... the book makes me feel Naïve. Just like the Church and State Crimes Against Humanity in Canada & the USA.... Under recent Court Findings by Bi-Partisan panel and International Tribunal.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

How about Medbillz inc?

Who owns Medbillz, inc?

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

So, do you know who owns that site?

[-] 0 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

Can't say that I do. Gordon Duff, I believe, is the editor. I think many contributors there list their email addresses or at least allow you to respond to their articles. You might try asking some of them.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

I'm pretty sure that if you aren't willing to put who owns the site up on site then your a junk site. One would think with your history of attraction to conspiracy theories that you might be all up on this.


[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

There is a lot put up on that site that I don't agree with, and in fact my original post was just that VT claimed that it was a psy-op. There are a number of other sites that are raising questions now about what happened in Boston.