Forum Post: Boeing Vs Labor- View from a Shop Worker
Posted 10 years ago on Jan. 1, 2014, 9:15 p.m. EST by AlwaysIntoSomething
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http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/01/01/a-shop-floor-view-of-the-fight-at-boeing/
Sounds to me like this "union" leader is a total waste of time. The guy writes everyone a letter to explain things? Doensnt have the time to come in and talk?
They'd be better off without him, as they are currently proving.
Posted by a guy who HATES unions.
What's not surprising is the link to a conspiracy theory site, instead of the originator.
In the end it proves the high worth of unions, as this guy will likely not be re-elected, but you don't mention that.
Nor did you comment on the many other threads on Boeing.
It's a shame really.
Tax the rich is one of the originator sites best stories.
Here's the one you missed.
http://labornotes.org/2014/01/public-sector-unions-win-when-they-preach-tax-rich
Actually, he doesn't hate unions. He just firmly believes that unions get in the way of his ability to negotiate with a company one on one. See, it's all about how he rearranges his words. So, apparently he doesn't hate, he eath unions. I think it's a PR thang.
Strangely enough, he actually responded to this and then almost immediately deleted it.
He's always been anti-union.
That's what libe(R)tarians are.
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I'm sorry?
Who are you?
Besides new here?
In truth, I've tried many times to make peace with poster in question.
He made sure that was not possible, with all sorts of negativity aimed at the 99%.
Unions and liberals in particular, he has attacked without mercy.
He's a PR hack first and foremost..
He likes to talk about the necessity of community, while attacking those that do post about their communities.
Since his attack on me was deleted, you really have no idea.
I'm a forum reader. I usually don't post or comment. Just like to read. I'm in Portland. Occupied at the beginning.
What about you? Who are you?
It seems to me you attack many people, not just him. It's getting tiring, and, in my humble opinion, is ruining the forum.
Instead of attacking him which adds more crap to the forum, why not ban him? Or, better yet, just let the readers decide if they want to read his comments or ignore them.
Then you must have missed all the viscous attacks on me, as well as all the organized attacks on any liberal posters.
You must also have missed the attacks perped by libe(R)tarians, gun nutters, conce(R)vatives and teabagge(R)s, among others.
Not to mention the frequent puppet and bot attacks in the forum.
And like I said, I've offered him olive branches numerous times.
He turned on me every single time.
My patience, is not unlimited.
I have been reading for awhile. Seen it all. Not many gun nutters or bots these days. What's the point of being stuck in the past? Even if there were such things nowadays, it doesn't excuse adding more to the fire with personal attacks. It seems to me the person doing the most harm these days is you. I say this in all honesty. I think you would be pleasantly surprised if you treated others with more respect. You could make some really good friends here. Occupiers have to stick together.
You asked me who I was and I answered. I asked you the same, but you ignored my question.
So you missed all those attacks then?
Strange that. Very strange, considering your claim of reading everything.
Bots and puppets are still very much in evidence around here, so it's strange that
You missed that fact too.
You didn't actually say who you were.
But.......I'm game and unafraid.
I'm Michael Moore.
PS. I've found that treating trolls and PR agents with respect is useless.
Ditto the current crop of libe(R)tarians masquerading as Anarchists around here.
If really think my asking people for clarification is the problem, then I guess I will need to ask you more questions.
Puppets, bots and a cabal that attacked liberal posters and particular mod, have done more damage than anything I ever could.
If you're so observant?
Why didn't you mention ANY of that? Instead attempting to attack me?
now, who did you say you were?
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Why don't you stick with one ID?
I only have one ID. What about you?
Just one---as always. You, however, I don't believe.
What you believe is of no importance. Instead of falsely accusing people of unimportant things, you should be working hard to build a community. You do believe in community building don't you?
No. What you believe is of no importance. You have played your last game. You were warned over a year ago. In that time, because you are a douche bag you have run off one mod that was seriously ill and ganged up individually on three of us. Your lies and deceit are over.
dk ? is gone
let him/her rest
After the damage has been done?
we can't depend on good posters staying forever
That's a bullshit comment.
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No I am not gone.
Excellent
Tanks um I mean tanks......damn-it......tanks........oh shit...........I've been infected by the MIC...........................
I can't say I spend as much time here though
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You are lying. Again. No surprise.
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the community here is surprising resilient
I am humbled by the work and dedication pt into this site
gush gush
You need to make amends and you need to stick to them. I don't know how your going to do that. But, your cyber bullying tactics end right fucking now.
I saw that. He is anti-union or inta-union. He has spent a great deal of time on this forum stating the same. Like his views on education, etc. That said, he is a pr firm.
OMG!
He's spoken against almost every union so far!
From teachers to the USPS.
Not unlike his libe(R)tarian, federalist masters.
Speaking of teachers, they're getting fucked over by the ALEC libe(R)tarians in Wisconsin again.
http://wepartypatriots.com/wp/2014/01/02/wisconsin-education-unions-lose-certification-as-non-votes-called-no-votes-under-act-10/
See, not voting DOES matter.
Mob attacks against other users are so last year!
You did that no less than two days ago.
This is not a mob attack.
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Shoes, if unions are the end all, be all, howz come they haven't followed our factory jobs overseas and tried to organize workers in Mexico, Malaysia, China, or the new slave wagers in Haiti (courtesy of the Clinton Global whatever)??
People get shot all the time trying to organize unions in all those places and many more.
I'm a Wobbly at heart.
Unionize EVERY worker in the World!
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Update:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-04/boeing-union-duel-pits-pensions-against-777x-output-risk.html
The vote is tomorrow, going to be very interesting to see how this thing turns out.