Forum Post: Blowing Up Bridges in Cleveland
Posted 11 years ago on May 2, 2012, 9:18 a.m. EST by behindthemask
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The FIVE caught identified with Occupy Cleveland . . . so they ARE Occupy Cleveland . . . If you don't know who you are . . .or what you stand for . . . then You don't know who you aren't ....... and stand for nothing
that was a plot by the fbi not occupy. if it was real.. they would have arrested them months ago you dont remember ruby ridge? they arrest people for thinking of stuff like that.. they dont wait until its done and they dont sell them anything. WAKE UP it was propaganda perpetrated by the u.s. government agency fbi. as they said.. there was never any danger.
You're right, I bet Obama sent his goons to take down OWS because he hates us so much. You guys are finally realizing what I've been telling you, Obama is a GOP plant!
i doubt obama directs the day to day operation of the fbi. no. it was most likely just the local office. thought it would be funny.
Sure, he does not conduct the day to day events. That's why he makes appointments, to make sure the agenda of his 1% masters is carried out. You think Bush ordered the Army Corps to blow up the levees in New Orleans? Of course not. Did he appoint someone who would? Of course.
Every new president cleans house, to make sure the right people are in power. Obama is deliberately letting the FBI try to take OWS down.
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so who's been breaking windows . . .throwing paint . . .blocking streets . . Raping female participants . . .screaming at the workers (99%) you claim to be . . . Also a Government Conspiracy ? The reason you are who you are is cause you fail at everything and blame everyone . . . .for your inadequacy.
are you crazy? are you saying that the 14 million hard working people whos jobs have been eliminated are losers? were you under a rock when the unemployment rate shot from 5% to 10% almost overnite? those jobs will never be replaced. and your way of success will be obsolete for your grandkids. look beyond your short useless life for once and see what is happening to this country. i suppose that ok with you.. let the rich steal so much from the economy that the entire country becomes a tin shanty town. doesnt matter to you of course.. it will be your grandkids eating out of dumpsters not you.
So you agree with those attempting to blow up bridges ???
i dont know. is that what it takes to make you pay attention to what is happening to this country? the fbi orchestrated that deal. if it had been actual, real, they would have arrested the people months ago for conspiracy they most assuredly would not have went as far as pretending to sell them explosives.... as you see.. they did not. they specifically waited until may 1. and you fall for something like that?
"what good fortune for governments that people do not think" adolf hitler
the timing is suspiciously convenient
like when Osama was assassinated two days after NATO bombs killed Qaddafi's grand children
And right after OBL press release came out, the banking cartel raised silver margins 5 FUCKIN TIMES in a few days to beat the price back down.
Banks, the whitehouse, and the military. Its one big circle jerk, and we are all stuck in the middle.
Yeah Hitler was a genius . . .(Volkswagon) And insidious . . .First he eliminated the handicapped for "humane reasons" then those who could not work hard enough, then those who wouldn't work . . . then others he deemed useless to his cause . . .Jews . .Gypsies, Catholics... "subversives" . . .as he declared others to be . . .And then he went to work on those who rallied for him . . .afraid they might usurp his power . . . those who took to the streets for him . . .when their "usefulness" in breaking windows and creating general choas . . .was over . . Brownshirts . .they were called . .the names have changed the tactics are the same . . .what color is your shirt ?
exactly. and he got there by "people dont think" and therefore no one stepped up to stop him they all just took the word of the government and the media as truth . and now you are acting like one of those. believing everything you hear and never questioning the right or wrong or truth.
But OWS are the Non-thinkers . . .They spew college professors' rhetoric...socialist radical theology . . .adopt radical destructionism from 60's era radicals . . .but can not articulate their own ideas . . . and YOU blame ME . . .for THEM . . .ironic / // And I believe very little of what I hear . . .I search out my own informational needs a simple wikipedia search will explain the roots of OWS . . . and I doubt very much that OWS'rs have researched beyond the party people that they thought was OWS . . . Ows Is not organic . . .spontaneous or peaceful . . .It is the tool of those who would bring down the USA in the name of . . . .(fill in the Blank) Speak to one and he will look to the fellow next to him/her for answers . . .And they will be looking to the next for the accepted rhetoric of the day THEY think They are original . . .they are not !
and you believed bush when he said iraq was dangerous too i bet. YOU are what will be the destruction of america
Yes I did. It was stupid of me, but I was ten at the time.
Because others are wrong .. .or stupid . . .it gives you justification for being wrong or stupid . . .the Projection of the inane is endless
it gives me justification for demanding people like you stop hiding behind your misconceptions and fear and inaction before the complete disintegration of the country. hence OWS
That's a really interesting username you got there. It actually reveals more than it hides.
You need to go to a few before you spit this nonsense. Its not what the media says it is. Just like Tea parties arent what the media says they are.
so glad the failures in the world are called out
keep up the good work
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/05/01-4
Check out the affidavit. Check out that Occupy Cleveland did not go through their May Day plans.
The bomb was fake . . . .thanks to the FBI . . .otherwise YOU would ALL share the guilt and have blood on your hands . . . Your OWS brothers planted it . . .and attempted to detonate it . . . 20 years in REAL prison . . .not a few hours in the local polky
Wrooooooooooooooooooooooong answer, Cornflake.
Try again.
LOL
Don't read at all ...do you?
You must have a comprehension problem.
What part did you have a problem understanding?
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I bet you shout over your Momma when she says clean your room . . . Loud . ..raspy . . ."Everybody HATES Me . . .You're Ruining MY Life! Buy me a car . . .!!" sound familiar?
Try again. :D
Says I have to wait "0 minutes" before I can post . . . I don't have that kind of patience with nonsense
But, nonsense is all you post, fucktart.
Nicely put.
Thanks. :D
So you all believe there was no bomb . . .it was all made up . . .never mind . . . You may ALL . ..BE . . .AS ...Dangerous . ..after all....... AND your narrow vision will not see the OWS comrade that decides to take this to the next level . . . .and strap on his personal explosive vest and detonate himself in the middle of your movement . . .making Marters out of you . . in the name of YOUR "cause" . . .never happen? They didn't try to blow up a bridge either . . .according to you
There you go . . GirlFriday . . ..I knew vulgarity was your only talent
You go get you an argument together, sweet pea. Then come back and play with the grown ups. k?
So you like blowing up bridges too? And you must be grow'd up cause you said the "F" word . . .I see . . .
Not at all. But, you knew that already. Didn't ya? Yes, you did.
Get back to me when you get an argument. K?
You are so gentle and understanding - your a good kid GF. And there with the masked pos trying to put words in your mouth.
LOL. I try. I try. Thanks.
the US can stop dropping bombs on other countries today
Broad exaggeration. Publish your proof that all of Occupy Cleveland is involved in this plot or shut the hell up about your wild, unreasonable accusations!
All of anything is a misnomer . . .no one said ALL .. . But these idiots ARE from your club . . .you encouraged them .. .they endose the same thing "Most" of You do . . .quit excusing terrorist
More wild, baseless opinion. Clarifying the implication to MOST doesn't mask the baseless reasoning behind your accusation - exaggerations are still exaggerations. Where is your proof? You do not even offer to show a shred of sound reasoning to show how you jumped from five idiots to include most......sofa dribble....
Let me offer some sound reasoning for you. It is a fact (you see how I use facts to support my reasoning) that the vast majority of the protesters were peaceful...Evidence which clearly supports the opposite of what you are trying to imply....MOST endorse peaceful assembly to exercise their first amendment rights. There is no exaggeration of the facts on my part.
And every time you break a lamp you blam your little brother . . . That wasn't me . . .those are "other guys" .. .WE are Preaceful . . . A rider along on a drive by shooting , . . .a driver of the getaway car . . .. "I just held the door open for my buddy who robbed the store . . . Its My house . . .but "THEY" were making meth . . .not me . . . "I failed . . .because others distracted me" . . . It's not us . . .Not MY fault . . .infiltrators . . .making us look bad . . . EVER here of GUILT by Association ???. . .That's YOU !! And you still secretly wanted the Bomb to be real . .even now.
Good thing no registered Democrats or Republicans have ever committed a crime either, I guess......
yes, the government uses real bombs
Okay, now you're just ranting. Go take your meds, freak.
See idiots linked below . . .defend their reasoning please
What you propose is ludicrous. I can no more defend idiots, than I can make you use reason, logic, and sense.
Ludicrous IS the point . . .These are Occupy'rs . . .and are laying out their "ideology" . . .BUT apparently the REAL Occupy'rs If there are such a thing will say "THEY" don't speak for US . . .so how is anyone to know WHAT . . is the real message ? All criticism and questions are deflected . . .by . . ." That's not US . . .You just don't Understand . . .You just want to make us look bad " But you are making yourselves look bad . . . because you have so many different reasons for clogging streets . . .so many 'others' to Blame . . so much gobbilygoop . . .You don't have a clue as to how to 'fix' the things you find wrong . . .only to intensify your anger towards 'those' who made your life so useless.
As for Annyo and Scientology . . .truely the pot calling the kettle black . . . Neither have a legitimate leg to stand on . . .and should go back to the science fiction from which they came.
And what does any of your post have to do with some grunge OWS'rs trying to blow up a bridge??
If you are trying to out-crazy me, you are doing a wonderful job. No one could satisfy YOUR criticisms or questions, because they are not reasonable in the first place. You take isolated incidences and exaggerate them to outlandish proportions. For every isolated incident that reflects negatively on the movement, you fail to use reason and acknowledge the thousands of positive aspects of the movement. You want to fit Occupy in some box of messages, but fail to account for all the messages that have been raised. Hell, even the lame MSM credits Occupy for changing the national dialogue and putting income inequality front and center.
I'm beating a dead horse here. You have yet to address the unsound reasoning that I've raised about your exaggerations. Are you deflecting? How about YOU defend my criticisms on that front?
Name one positive result of OWS
Change the dialogue . . .could have been done with a post card
How about you defend my criticisms of your exaggerations?
Name one positive result of your trolling.
Bazinga!
One of your organizers actually got some air time on hannity tonite . . He finally admitted that every need of everyone should be provided free. And all the "providers" should provide these things for free . . .And all the violence was done by the police . . .apparently dressed like occupiers. He is living on Loans for education that he did not know where the money comes from . . .and doesn't think he should pay any back . . . He has no knowledge as to how any of this would be paid for . . . As long as it isn't capitalism . . . I suppose he thinks that money should just be printed and handed out. Great idea . . .don't you think ?
First make everybody a ward of the state . . . I think slavery operated under this model . .just give them their basic needs and they work . . .wait a flaw . . .he didn't think work was good either . . . You guys are so smart . . .I think every one should be given a golden goose . . .What . . .we have no golden geese? . . .damn those republicans . .greedy bastards !! they ruin all our ideas
Sean Hannity doesn't even pretend his show is actual news. It's opinion vaguely disguised as news. If those are the kind of sources you bring into the debate here, then kindly leave.
This isn't a circus, except in the mind's of clowns like you.
This is what YOUR guy said .. .not Hannity
The ellipses don't make you sound credible at all, just saying. You might want to brush up on those grammar skills, buddy ;)
Apparently, there's a blithering idiot behind that mask :)
As a former resident of that City, trust me.....everything is not always what it seems to be there....like most cities, its rich, powerful and controllers always have a hidden agenda! Be assured, the main objective is to discredit the movement, any movement that appears to threaten the status quo.
I am sure whoever wants to destroy this government with violent means will try to do so regardless of whatever movement, peaceful or otherwise they may be associated with. Anarchy does not need a nameable movement behind it!.
One thing I have learned from that city....DON'T ALWAYS BELIEVE THE HYPE!!
sad heresay, not even clever, these thin air story need better writers
So who's idea was it to 'blow up a bridge' the accused or the fedral agent? Did the agent propose the 'operation',. ? it ain't that hard to find gullible dupes in any social movement, or skilled manipulators in the fbi. not like there is a signup sheet, or admissions procedure, for Occupy.
Troll post.
DKA. If true, then this would certainly be a black eye and a large PR problem for OWS. There are bad apples in every barrel and OWS needs to put out a statement and disassociate from these type of extremists / anarchists. Otherwise, more and more people will not even consider support.
Point is anyone can make claims that they're in support of something. It does not make their support wanted or approved. See my post on the crap that Reuters posted. Yes denounce those who break the law as that "IS" after all what we are here for. We do not support crime or violence. We are supporters in ending the greed corruption and white collar crime that caused the economic meltdown and that has subverted our government.
Saw you other post after I commented here.
Troll . . .Bridge . . . .ironic isn't it?
Trolls live under bridges . . . That must be the real reason they wanted to bomb it . . .
Facts are hard to digest by those who simply want to complain
Stop the greed and corruption! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTQ1WOC9RgY
Here's Your Guy
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1620331294001/movement-occupying-insanity/?playlist_id=87937
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The same exact "threats" were manufactured right around the first round of protests against Scientology in 2008.
I know I keep going back to those experiences, but the fact is that there have been striking similarities in the response to that movement and Occupy that I feel is worth pointing out.
"The Church of Scientology posted a YouTube video claiming that Anonymous are "terrorists" and alleging that Anonymous is perpetrating "hate crimes" against the church. The video does not provide any evidence supporting their claims, and the FBI has not named any suspects for several of the threats mentioned. Anonymous has denied involvement in the more severe accusations. The church also released a DVD containing the YouTube video. The DVD called Anonymous a "dangerous" group and accused them of making threats against Scientology. Men claiming to be from the law firm Latham and Watkins delivered the DVD to family members of at least one person who protested."
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/webscout/2008/03/youtube-video-d.html
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/03/anonymous-hate-crimes-terrorism-directed-at-scientology-youtube-anonymousfacts.php
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03152008/gossip/pagesix/toms_church_counterattacks_101990.htm
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/03/anonymous-scientology-anonymousfacts-youtube-video.php
"The Church of Scientology sought an injunction and a restraining order to prevent Anonymous from protesting on March 15, 2008, citing threats allegedly made by Anonymous. Both the injunction and the restraining order were denied."
http://www.sptimes.com/2008/03/13/Northpinellas/Judge_denies_petition.shtml
"In a May 8, 2008 appearance on CNN, Church of Scientology spokesman Thomas W. Davis said that Scientology was "dealing with ninety-six death threats, bomb threats, acts of violence, vandalism" from the group Anonymous. CNN's John Roberts responded, stating that the Federal Bureau of Investigation found nothing connecting Anonymous to the Church of Scientology's accusations of violence: "You are leveling these accusations at this group, the F.B.I., which is looking into it, says it has found nothing to connect this group Anonymous with what you're talking about, or death threats against members of the church, the F.B.I. at this point says - it has no reason to believe that charges would be leveled against this group."
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/05/08/sot.davis.interview.cnn
Notice this part: "sought an injunction and a restraining order." That's the next step that the authorities will take in order to stifle the protests, all under the guise of "safety" from charges that were ultimately fabricated and timed for release at the opportune moment for the most chilling effect.
Also notice that instead of attacking the view points of any of the protestors, that the spokesman for this cult called them "terrorists." This term is used as a weapon against any groups that someone doesn't agree with, since this word automatically alienates a large swath of less intelligent people who will not take the 5 minutes to verify these types of claims. "Well they called them terrists so I hate them now, even tho I kno nuttin aboot them! Yee haw!"
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The FBI had to infiltrate the OWS Cleveland chapter to catch these guys. Their affinity for violence will be their downfall. I wonder when the SPLC will label them as an extremist group.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/fbi/fbi-informant-infiltrated-occupy-movement-758348
But finally their venom and hate . . .is being recognized for what it is . . . AND that OWS are domestic terrorists and should be treated as such
All the people I meet at protests/meetings disavow violence. these are fringe, tiny percent. possibly even infiltrators to discredit this great American movement. Get with it. they protest for you!
Same in Charlotte. In fact, all I heard when I was @ Occupy Charlotte, before it was evicted, was how important it was to remain non-violent.
Out of how many thousands of people, maybe 15 max have been truly violent? That's an amazing ratio, and it shows just how committed to non-violence 99.99% of Occupy is!
It appears the forums attract many anti ows people who want to tear down, rather than help build the movement and change that the middle class so desperately need. @xenu NC? R U doing the BofA march?
cause the poor will always be poor
I suppose we may always have poor but I rather think we can change society to raise all people up. Certainly we must try. NO?
from the middle ?
From middle, bottom, top. Wherever it may work. No?
I will try to be there, but like so many other events it is going on during work hours :/
Good luck. don't work too hard.
Thanks! Will do!
Their actions certainly would lead one to believe so. Everywhere they go, violence and destruction seems to follow.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/funny-vid-d-c-occupiers-want-to-banish-monetary-system-but-still-buy-big-screen-tvs/#ooid=NpZTJtNDph7uS0WTaIZy7cg-OaVPqYRz Here are your people explaining their world view . . . They are Part of your group . . .non-violent . . .just really really stupid Do you say they are NOT part of you . . .Like the Bombers ? You pick and chose . . . OH . . ."Thats" not "Us"
Bottom Line . . .you live in the best and most free country in the world . . . work to make change . . . .screaming and degrading yourself is simply playing into those who would use your chaos for their own purposes . . . At the moment you are an inconvenient distraction . . .and shrinking from any real importance you once had . . .You are simple rabble rousers, with no other purpose but to give real evil an excuse to shut the doors of freedom you now enjoy . . . Once you were the darlings of Obama, Palosi and MSM . . .but they will turn on you . . .in an instant if making you disappear helps their communist agenda . . .SOROs is even laughing at you and HE is evil incarnate . . You are his lemmings . . .his expendable zombies . . .parrots . . . and any moment Obama may declare " VOTE for ME and I will remove those filthy heathens from the streets . . .I killed binLaden . .I can kill them" repent . . or at least rethink . . . Not ALL those behind the masks are who you believe them to be
look into my eyes
join the fly in my soup swimming around
helpless to escape
If you see a terrorist . . .in the act of terror . . .you point it out . . . Seems there are secrets kept by OWS ( rapes, bombings, murders ) that if you don't tolerate . . .YOU become the target . . . Sounds like true terrorism to me . . . The Muslim Extremist type Sharia law type . . .
Thanks for pointing out the obvious that the OWS Occupy the 99% and all of the peaceful legal movements against the greed corruption and white collar crime that caused the economic meltdown ( that are still doing business ) are under attack by those same economic criminals. Yes the greedy corrupt criminals of WallStreet and banking would love to discredit all of the good people who are uniting against them.
I am Peaceful . . .he yelled as he threw acid in my face . . . Peaceful people go camping . . .and make smores . . . . The .000000000099 percent that is making lots of random noise . . . seem to just make messes