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Forum Post: Blame the poor.

Posted 2 years ago on Feb. 19, 2012, 8:19 p.m. EST by jpbarbieux (137) from Palmetto Bay, FL
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What would the Rich be without our hard work, subsistence wages, and taxes paid to the US Government? They would be poor.

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[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

Good post!

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[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

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[-] -1 points by Okay1 (20) 2 years ago

What is your point?

[-] 2 points by jpbarbieux (137) from Palmetto Bay, FL 2 years ago

What is your point????????????????

Well let's see, the rich are abusing their power at our expense. Let them eat cake. Right!

[-] 1 points by nucleus (3291) 2 years ago

Or they could just eat the poor.

[-] -3 points by kingscrossection (1203) 2 years ago

I hear poor tastes good. Really sweet.

[+] -5 points by uncensored (104) 2 years ago

Too boney and smelly.

[-] -1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 2 years ago

It depends on where they come from.

[-] -3 points by uncensored (104) 2 years ago

True. The newly poor are much better.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

Well, we have the names of at least 2 trolls here.

[-] -3 points by uncensored (104) 2 years ago

Allow me to de-troll myself..... Hello, OWS! I am a TEA Party member, here to talk some sense into you, present some facts, and explain my POV. Oh, in my spare time I like to make fun of bitter fools like GypsyThing and a few others with closed minds and no sense of humor.

There, I said it! How do you like me now? ;)

[-] 3 points by GildasSapiens (266) 2 years ago

Tea Party? You mean the Koch Brothers' Party for Schmucks & Puppets.

How much are they paying you? Or are you so dumb, you're doing the Koch billionaires' dirty work for free? Now THAT would be funny!

[-] 3 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Well, let's see. This is the Official OWS site. It exists to support OWS and exchange ideas about how to strengthen it, move forward, or simply connect with each other.

You, on the other hand are here to "talk some sense into" us. An in your spare time amuse yourself by trying to insult members here. Uninvitedly, too. You are here to show us the error of our ways, that the movement itself is wrong and dumb.

If that's not the very definition of a troll, nothing is. And you are so stupid, deluded, and intoxicated with your own self-importance, you don't even know it.

Alternatively, you know it very well, and a simply lying again, as is your preferred activity.

Piss off, schmuck.

[-] -2 points by uncensored (104) 2 years ago

This site is like the parks you like to occupy, so I am here to Occupy it. So now you want to evict me? What next, virtual tear gas?

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

You're not here to occupy it. You are here to stand on the outskirts and throw stones at the occupiers.

Scum troll.

[-] 0 points by uncensored (104) 2 years ago

Apparently I'm front and center tonight. Why aren't you joining in my Mic Check?

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

As I said below (because, apparently you can't think for yourself more than once every hour or so) we don't like you any better than before.

[-] -2 points by uncensored (104) 2 years ago

But for whatever reason you make it a point to follow me around. I'll take that as a compliment.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

You're a teabagger?

Why did you raise my taxes?

That wasn't very nice, nor was your joining the BIG government party of the (R)epelican'ts.

If the "tea party" was a real party, why are they on the ballot as (R)epelican'ts?

Could it be, teabagger is just another name for (R)epelican't?

Why yes, I do believe it is.

[-] -2 points by uncensored (104) 2 years ago

You should be happy to pay more in taxes. The money goes to help the poor, save the planet, etc.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Actually no. It went to help corporations, our teabaggers cut the poor off.

Care to answer my questions?

[-] -1 points by uncensored (104) 2 years ago

There are only two viable parties. The TEA Party is taking over the Republican Party the same way you Socialists took over the Democrat Party. Next question?

[-] 2 points by flip (6775) 2 years ago

boy are you stupid!

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Why is it that you can never answer a question?

Actually, teabaggers are just another name for (R)epelican't.

They lie, and misinterpret just like them.

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[-] -2 points by Chugwunka (89) from Willows, CA 2 years ago

What power? What poor?

[+] -4 points by uncensored (104) 2 years ago

Ummm, the poor ain't working, don't pay income taxes, and they are slaves to the government, not to the rich.

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

The poor are working as much as they can, often at two or three jobs (despite there being 1 job available for every 4 applicants overall), they pay local, state, sales, and payroll taxes, among others, and they are enslaved to the 1%, who control every aspect of the economy and government.

[-] -3 points by fairforall (279) 2 years ago

you can choose to be enslaved or not. everyone has options.

[-] 3 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Really? I wonder if black folks would have agreed with you 200 years ago.

People do what they have to to survive. They don't choose to be poor. They don't choose to be enslaved. They are relegated to that position by a system that concentrates wealth at the very top, and leaves everyone else scrounging for crumbs.

[-] -1 points by fairforall (279) 2 years ago

Re: black "folks" - of course not but we are in the present day....stay with us.

Same question asked of GK. Are you enslaved? If so, why?

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Everyone is enslaved by capitalism. Even the 1%.

[-] -1 points by fairforall (279) 2 years ago

lol. ok, we may have different definitions of enslavement. The fact I need air to live probably constitutes enslavement in your world. So, is enslavement an issue under your definition?

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Have you read much of anything on these fora? Do you have any idea why OWS exists?

Stop your bullshit.

Either help fight for economic equity and a restoration of democracy or get out.

[-] -1 points by fairforall (279) 2 years ago

first you say the the poor are enslaved, then you say everyone is enslaved. I am only seeking why you see the world this way. I take it from your response, you aren't sure.

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

I'm sorry. I know exactly what I mean by the word, I am also sure you are playing games. You want to talk philosophy, go take a Phi101 course at you local community college. You want to play games, go to a playground.

[-] -1 points by fairforall (279) 2 years ago

I'm interested in why you believe we are enslaved. Evidently you aren't sure and blaming me as the reason for your inability is your answer.

So, how/why are you enslaved?

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

You're interested in a meaningless philosophical debate. Fine. Have one. In a classroom.

You want to discuss how OWS can better effect change, and what that change would be, that's what this site is for.

[-] -1 points by fairforall (279) 2 years ago

a key priority is to figure out how you are enslaved and how to get out it., I am here to help.

So, who/why are you enslaved?

[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (28461) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

The long and the short of it. Below I will attach my short conversation with fairforall. I do not know why ffa insists on this approach as it is not very effective for making a point. It is needlessly coy. It essentially comes down to the fact that no one who is here in support of OWS, Occupy and 99% have chosen to be enslaved and that fact is born out in that we are here to oppose corruption and in that sense oppose slavery.

2 points by DKAtoday (3265) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 day ago

What kind of idiot comment is that?

"-2 points by fairforall (225) 10 hours ago

you can choose to be enslaved or not. everyone has options."

I mean - Really?

OK I choose not to be enslaved. ( now do I tap my heels together 3 times? )

HEY!!! back off with that pepper spray. I have chosen not to be enslaved!!!! ↥like ↧dislike reply edit delete permalink [-] 0 points by fairforall (241) 1 day ago

Everyone has the responsibility to support themselves and their families. And everyone has talents. Not choosing to push yourself to create an environment where both you and your family can succeed is unacceptable. Accepting enslavement will always guarantee failure. ↥like ↧dislike reply permalink [-] 1 points by DKAtoday (3265) from Coon Rapids, MN 23 hours ago

That is why we are here. We are fighting corruption and economic slavery. So in a sense this is our choosing not to be enslaved. Happy now? ↥like ↧dislike reply edit delete permalink [-] 0 points by fairforall (241) 23 hours ago

My happiness is not the discussion.......it is whether a person can choose to not be enslaved. You have evidently come to the same conclusion I have. We are making progress. ↥like ↧dislike reply permalink

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

It's very clear he/she is trying to use a word as a way of introducing bullshit Libertardian ideas. He/she thinks he's being very clever, that he will somehow ensnare others in a rhetorical trap that he will spring. But he's too stupid to realize that his simple-minded cleverness is transparent, and an easily identified ploy to make a meaningless, rhetorically based non-point. He fails to consider that others are not as stupid as he makes them out to be; they are not as stupid as he is.

[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (28461) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Best to ignore then. No need to feed.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

You can chose to be enslaved or not . . . Wow that could be cited in an informal logic class as the perfect example of a logical non-sequitur. Thanks.

[-] -1 points by fairforall (279) 2 years ago

You're welcome. Are you enslaved? If so, why?

[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (28461) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

What kind of idiot comment is that?

"-2 points by fairforall (225) 10 hours ago

you can choose to be enslaved or not. everyone has options."

I mean - Really?

OK I choose not to be enslaved. ( now do I tap my heels together 3 times? )

HEY!!! back off with that pepper spray. I have chosen not to be enslaved!!!!

[-] -1 points by fairforall (279) 2 years ago

Everyone has the responsibility to support themselves and their families. And everyone has talents. Not choosing to push yourself to create an environment where both you and your family can succeed is unacceptable. Accepting enslavement will always guarantee failure.

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (28461) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

That is why we are here. We are fighting corruption and economic slavery. So in a sense this is our choosing not to be enslaved. Happy now?

[-] -1 points by fairforall (279) 2 years ago

My happiness is not the discussion.......it is whether a person can choose to not be enslaved. You have evidently come to the same conclusion I have. We are making progress.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

We are all consumer slaves. Ultimately, we could "choose" not to, but the solutions would be impractical, if not impossible.

The days of the land grabs, are long over.

What century do you believe we are living in?.

[-] 0 points by fairforall (279) 2 years ago

I believe you are confusing the reality that we all have needs and the term slave. Investigate.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

No, actually I'm combining them and updating them for the current century.

Observe. We are behavior slaves.

[-] -1 points by fairforall (279) 2 years ago

Interesting. You are a behaviour slave. Please elaborate.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

There you go, twisting things around again.

I said WE are. Just look at your own wiggling around in an attempt to deny it.

Please observe.

[-] -1 points by fairforall (279) 2 years ago

We is you and me so not sure where you are arriving at any twisting. Again, how are you a behaviour slave? Or since you seem offended at that - how am I a behaviour slave?

[-] -3 points by uncensored (104) 2 years ago

If you are working 2-3 jobs and are still poor, then you REALLY f@$%'d up somewhere down the road. BTW, if there is only 1 job per every 4 applicants, how is it that a poor person can still get 2 or 3 of them?

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[-] 0 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Wow, interesting that you would choose to interpret it that way.

You really are an unmitigated schmuck.

[-] -2 points by uncensored (104) 2 years ago

How dare you say that? I am quite mitigated!

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Nope. A flat-out 100% discarded foreskin. Pure schmuck.

[-] -2 points by uncensored (104) 2 years ago

Be nice!

BTW, are you poor?

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Be nice? To you?

Hahahahahaha!

[-] -2 points by uncensored (104) 2 years ago

But I'm one of the 99% you claim to represent and are fight for.......or is it just the part of the 99% that agree with you?

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

You are a schmuck. You may be economically part of the 99%, but you are too much of an asshole to understand that we are fighting for you. You would rather denigrate the poor and uphold the values of the 1%. You stand in opposition to the 99%. You are a shill for everything OWS stands in opposition to. And you know it very well, despite your weak attempt at cleverness.

You are nothing but a troll, who enjoys hearing the echo of his empty, meaningless hatred bounce around under the bridge where you live. And while not all schmucks are trolls, all trolls are schmucks. And you, asswipe, fit the description of both.

I only wish I could find the moyel who cut you off and slap him for not flushing you when the procedure was over.

[-] 2 points by fairforall (279) 2 years ago

these kind of responses always make me smile. I know they shouldn't......but they do:

You are nothing but a troll, who enjoys hearing the echo of his empty, meaningless hatred bounce around under the bridge where you live. And while not all schmucks are trolls, all trolls are schmucks. And you, asswipe, fit the description of both.

I only wish I could find the moyel who cut you off and slap him for not flushing you when the procedure was over.

[-] -1 points by Okay1 (20) 2 years ago

Once again, you don't respond to the issues raised. You just start insulting. Why can't you leftists actually have an adult conversation?

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Issue? What issue has the schmuck ever raised other than trying to misdirect, misrepresent and lie? What has he done that hasn't been for the express purpose of attempted insult? You right wing shit-for-brains feel free to dish it out, but whine like 3 years when the shoe is on the other foot.

Why the fuck are you morons even here on an OWS support site if you have no intention of offering support? Double standards are really fun aren't they?

No go away and try really hard to grow a brain cell.

[+] -4 points by uncensored (104) 2 years ago

Allow me to de-troll myself..... Hello, OWS! I am a TEA Party member here to talk some sense into you, present some facts, and explain my POV. Oh, in my spare time I like to make fun of bitter fools like epa1whatever and a few others with closed minds and no sense of humor.

There, I said it! How do you like me now? ;)

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

No better than before.

[-] -3 points by uncensored (104) 2 years ago

Darn! I was trying soooooooo hard to be your buddy. :(

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Still a troll leftover of a penis. Your "sense of humor" as you so generously elevate your hollow cleverness, is always at someone else's expense. Usually the disenfranchised. Your mean-spiritedness is not funny to anyone other that those who like to torture small animals.

And lest you think it oh so funny and clever to make a false connection, I am not equating the disenfranchised with small animals. I am only saying you're the kind of schmuck who thinks sadism is hilarious.

Scum.

[-] -3 points by uncensored (104) 2 years ago

I'll bet the kids in your junior high class think you're very funny.

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