Forum Post: Big Surprise on voter fraud
Posted 11 years ago on Sept. 24, 2012, 5:47 p.m. EST by TitusMoans
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from Boulder City, NV
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Not much exists, except in the minds of the right-wing sickos. http://news.yahoo.com/republicans-look-voter-fraud-little-172327169--election.html
Trying to disenfranchise people by raising the barriers to voting is un-American. Why don't they worry about the fraud on Wall Street which is nothing like little?
Of course it is, but disenfranchisement of the minorities, the needy, and the poor has not been of concern to oligarchs. The real failure of our system is that so many people believe the lies propagated by the ruling class.
Americans need to wake up and take off the blinders of simplistic nationalism so they can really "see" what the oligarchs are doing to their nation.
Ironic: Republicans looking for election fraud.
Right. The hypocrisy is too much. What kills me are all the right wingers who call for smaller government yet they want us all to have to walk around with ID and even require it to vote! WTF is that about?
I see where that might look a little inconsistent. Maybe their strategy is to defer to the greater fear. In this case, "invading hordes from the South" trumps "red dawn".
There is very little fraud, and requiring ID is going to have very little effect on actual voting patterns.
The real effect is that they have managed to steer the conversation towards a subject that is not going to reverse the direction this country is heading towards. By keeping the people divided, there is little chance that they slow down, think, and put somthing better together. Which is very easy. If everyone would just pull their asses off of their heads once in a while.
Right, hchc, we all need to get to work (I saw your thread). But, I disagree, I think it does actually affect voting, and in most cases suppresses the elderly, the poor and minorities. The Reps know this and that is why they make the targeted effort.
I don't disagree with you at all, though, that we live in a sick society that needs a lot more than voting.
The same reason the people arent worried about it...Because its not in the "plan"...
Make the people show up with ID to vote, and the shit hits the fan. MF Global rips off billions of people,. and no one cares.
Very true, hchc. Most Americans have their head in the sands about most things. When, finally, one day, they can't put food on the table, maybe they will wake up.
At least the voting process is dubious. The possibility of fraud and voter suppression screams for a better system. Most countries do not have those problems. If you go into a partisan struggle then you will the system will not change. The energy will be dissipated in the struggle.
The American duopoly is a tool of the ruling class.
NSFW: Sarah Silverman Approves This F@!#ing Message
Voter fraud does exist, but the major culprit in Citizens United, which fights to prove that the person with the most dollars buys the most votes.
i was gonna go with an entrenched bureaucracy
whose keys turn to allow only party members run
The entrenched bureaucracy is little more than the evidence of control by the ruling class through the duopoly.
The biggest fraud is the nation's belief that this two party circus represents them.
Funny I had a pollster ask me at a gas station, "Obama or Romney?"
To which I replied, "Neither of the clowns."
She asked, "Are you registered to vote?
I answered, 'Yes, but Che Guevara said that no people's uprising could succeed without armed struggle. The vote may be for ballots or bullets."
That was awesome.
In spite of all the propaganda and lies directed against Che Guevara by the United States, his words ring true for oppressed people around the world even today. I especially like his famous line: "It's easy to deceive an illiterate country."
Incidentally, this is no apology for Che, who certainly earned much of the bad press that was generated against him. At the same time I don't disregard the contributions he made to people's struggles against not only North American imperialism, but the economic imperialism of nearly all major powers.
a vote has a sort of finality to it
True, but elections can be perverted and reversed; bullets cannot.