Forum Post: Beans Beans the wonderful Fruit
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 21, 2011, 7:40 a.m. EST by leavethecities
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Beans Beans the man took the Beans,
16 Beans and what dya get, Another day older an deeper in Debt, I became so mad I Could spit some Beans, But no beans were found so I made no sound
There were some who said beans grow on trees, We can make more and do what we please, Rainbows on street Corners and chicken in pots, some like it cool some like it hot,
There were some who said there were only a hundred beans, That one bean a piece was the only way, why whould 1 get 90 and the rest 10 I put down the bottle and started drinking gin
A sensible fellow said all maybe true, trying to look at an elephant as seven blind fools, Only way to get more in every pot, is for everyone to be more productive and roast the pork.
So everyone was smarter and produced more, becoming more efficient at what they do, Getting rid of the corrupt and ignoring the inefficient fools, eating pork and beans and not being a tool.
More beans less pork
More fruit less vegtables
all quiet on the western front
More beans in the pot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w
Beans if I had some I would make a sound, more carbon footprint and acing like a clown, but plant some trees and have a laugh, think what you do before taking a nap
If only it were that simple. It's not.
Reality check:
The ugly truth. America's wealth is STILL being concentrated. When the rich get too rich, the poor get poorer. These latest figures prove it. AGAIN.
According to the Social Security Administration, 50 percent of U.S. workers made less than $26,364 in 2010. In addition, those making less than $200,000, or 99 percent of Americans (actually, more like 98%), saw their earnings fall by $4.5 billion collectively.
The sobering numbers were a far cry from what was going on for the richest one percent of Americans.
The incomes of the top one percent of the wage scale in the U.S. rose in 2010; and their collective wage earnings jumped by $120 billion. In addition, those earning at least $1 million a year in wages, which is roughly 93,000 Americans, reported payroll income jumped 22 percent from 2009. Overall, the economy has shed 5.2 million jobs since the start of the Great Recession in 2007. It’s the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression in the 1930’s.
Another word about the first Great Depression. It really was a perfect storm. Caused almost entirely by greed. First, there was unprecedented economic growth. There was a massive building spree. There was a growing sense of optimism and materialism. There was a growing obsession for celebrities. The American people became spoiled, foolish, naive, brainwashed, and love-sick. They were bombarded with ads for one product or service after another. Encouraged to spend all of their money as if it were going out of style. Obscene profits were hoarded at the top. In 1928, the rich were already way ahead. Still, they were given huge tax breaks. All of this represented a MASSIVE transfer of wealth from poor to rich. Executives, entrepreneurs, developers, celebrities, and share holders. By 1929, America's wealthiest 1 percent had accumulated 44 percent of all United States wealth. The upper, middle, and lower classes were left to share the rest. When the lower majority finally ran low on money to spend, profits declined and the stock market crashed.
Of course, the rich threw a fit and started cutting jobs. They would stop at nothing to maintain their disgusting profit margins and ill-gotten obscene levels of wealth as long as possible. The small business owners did what they felt necessary to survive. They cut more jobs. The losses were felt primarily by the little guy. This created a domino effect. The middle class shrunk drastically and the lower class expanded. With less wealth in reserve and active circulation, banks failed by the hundreds. More jobs were cut. Unemployment reached 25% in 1933. The worst year of the Great Depression. Those who were employed had to settle for much lower wages. Millions went cold and hungry. The recovery involved a massive infusion of new currency, a World War, and higher taxes on the rich. With so many men in the service, so many women on the production line, and those higher taxes to help pay for it, some US wealth was gradually transferred back down to the majority. This redistribution of wealth continued until the mid seventies. By 1976, the richest 1 percent held less than 20 percent. The lower majority held the rest. This was the recovery. A partial redistribution of wealth.
Then it began to concentrate all over again. Here we are 35 years later. The richest one percent now own 40 percent of all US wealth. The upper, middle, and lower classes are sharing the rest. This is true even after taxes, welfare, financial aid, and charity. It is the underlying cause. No redistribution. No recovery.
The government won't step in and do what's necessary. Not this time. It's up to us. Support small business more and big business less. Support the little guy more and the big guy less. It's tricky but not impossible.
For the good of society, stop giving so much of your money to rich people. Stop concentrating the wealth. This may be our last chance to prevent the worst economic depression in world history. No redistribution. No recovery.
Those of you who agree on these major issues are welcome to summarize this post, copy it, link to it, save it, show a friend, or spread the word in any fashion. Most major cities have daily call-in talk radio shows. You can reach thousands of people at once. They should know the ugly truth. Be sure to quote the figures which prove that America's wealth is still being concentrated. I don't care who takes the credit. We are up against a tiny but very powerful minority who have more influence on the masses than any other group in history. They have the means to reach millions at once with outrageous political and commercial propaganda. Those of us who speak the ugly truth must work incredibly hard just to be heard.
Making everone a better fisherman is a part of the answer this requires a cultural change... the other is making the playing field more even.. no beans for those who can work but dont.. be creative .. unions should try to increase the productivity of business not decrease it if they want their will wages to rise what are you smoking use your common sense, why not tie wages to productivity why not use robots or machines, why bury your head in the proverbial sand and just cut posts in reply and not think about what your saying just like a bunch of talking points strung together...
Productivity has skyrocketed over the last 30 years along with corporate profits. Wages have remained flat. Virtually all of the growth has gone to the top. Primarily, the top 1%.
I have thought about what I'm saying. I predicted this crisis on the air in August of '05'. In writing online a few weeks later. I've made a dozen accurate predictions since then.
If I didn't understand, I could not have done so.
What are you doing to be more efficient and more productive the long term determiner of wealth in a society, if you follow closely the poem, rooT causes need to be address concentration of wealth is tied to both political corruption and the breaking of laws governing free markets, entry into markets is very expensive for small business and big business uses the government as a hammer to prevennt competion, unless corruption in the market is adressed then there will be no real reform just a change in who runs thing ; but know this real wages can not rise unless productivity goes up per individual... you cant change that fact by redistributing wealth you will only be redistributing a declining pot.
From the mid '40's to the mid '70's, a vital redistribution of wealth took place. It was absolutely necessary and successful. Without it, there could have been no growth. No recovery.
Albert Einstein, Mariner Eccles, Robert Reich, Allen Greenspan, Ron Lawl, Richard Wolff, and dozens of professors have gone on record with similar views.
The size of the pot means crap if one fat pig takes a bucket load for himself.
i would be more impressed if thomas edson said it .. :)
Yep and you didnt answer the question no innovation... in your world we wouldnt invent the wheel because grog the one with the hammer who steals everything would get more if we made the wheel.. stop grogs corruption and invent the wheel and everyone will do better that is what the poem is about.. sometimes i wonder if people can read
Yes depening on how you measure things productivity has increased, but not in real goods.. also corruption has increased look at chinas productivity numbers and their increase they have tripled the output of their economy in less than a decade... interesting... and they are living at higher standard of living we need less economists hairdressors philosophers etc and more engineers entrepenuers and inventors .. also need a culture change .. need to imprison those who gave took the ballouts imprison congress and the president for taking bribes and create a system that doesnt have crony favortism
You can't just innovate your way around a record high concentration of wealth worldwide. Sometimes I wonder if people can think.
Gee I guess you are not for fighting corruption just for redistribution of wealth.. it is all now clear.
Of course, I'm for fighting corruption. In particular this:
The most profitable industries in the world (energy, healthcare, finance) have been given billions in government handouts and tax breaks. Meanwhile, they keep raising charges causing hardship for millions. With all those massive handouts, tax breaks, and obscene charges, profits rise to record high levels. Millions in bonuses are paid to the executives. With record high profits, record high dividends are paid. 40% of all dividends in the United States are paid to the richest one percent. All of this causes a gradual concentration of wealth and income. This results in a net loss for the lower majority who find it more and more difficult to cover the record high cost of living, which again, is directly proportional to record high profits for the rich. As more and more people struggle to make ends meet, more and more financial aid becomes necessary. Most of which goes right back to the health care industry through Medicare, Medicaid, and a very expensive prescription drug plan. This increases government spending. This has been happening for 30 years now. During the same time, tax rates have been lowered drastically for the richest one percent. Especially those who profit from investments. These people pay only 15 percent on capital gains income. As even more wealth concentrates, the lower majority find it more difficult to sustain there share of the consumer driven economy. Demand drops as more and more people go broke. Layoffs results. Unemployment rises. This results in less revenue and more government debt.
Massive subsidies and tax breaks for Wall Street, massive tax breaks for the super rich, heavy concentration of wealth, record high charges along with record high profits and record high cost of living, more hardship for the lower majority, more government spending in the form of financial aid to compensate, more concentration of wealth, less demand, layoffs and unemployment. All of this results in slower economy and less tax revenue. At the same time more and more financial aid becomes necessary. It's a horrible downward cycle which gradually pushes the national debt higher and higher.
Here is a list of the top ten companies that not only paid no taxes but got huge corporate welfare from we the people.
1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate from the IRS, according to its SEC filings. Note: This claim was made by Forbes.com in April of '10'. Shortly after, they published a followup article which included a rebuttal by Exxon Mobil. Forbes.com did acknowledge a mistake based on incorrect line items filed by Exxon Mobil. http://www.forbes.com/sites/energysource/2010/04/07/exxon-says-it-does-pay-u-s-income-taxes
2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly $1 trillion.
3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26 billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion refund from the IRS.
4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.
5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS last year.
6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68 billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.
7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department.
8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.
9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received $451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction.
10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11 billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years was just 1.1 percent.
We finally agree. No special favouritism obama bush go to jail, all corporations taxed the same.. no loop holes period no handouts from the government to corporations whether it be military etc. no unfair business practice remove over regulations of small businesses ... government spends in means.. i think there would be far less super rich if these reforms were made no buddies on board of directors .. no interlocking directorates ... owners are liabel for corporations actions just like small businesses
Perfect.
example owners of bp stock should be liable for damages caused by oil spill no government cap on damages.. employees cant be forced to buy stock in company they work for etc... evryone should be responsible for their actions
Are you for stock owners being responsible for corporate liabilities as a percent of ownership... people should be responsible for the actions of the businesses they own. that is the big part of the corruption .. noone watched enron because they werent liable.