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Forum Post: Barack - Joe - If you manage to get re-elected and you want to show that you truly stand with the PEOPLE.

Posted 2 years ago on Oct. 12, 2012, 2:02 p.m. EST by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN
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You should kick the financial criminals out of your administration.

You should vigorously prosecute the economic criminals - do not try to tell us that fraud and usury are legal.

De-criminalize marijuana - make it legal for medical use - and at most a fine to be paid out of pocket for those who are not medical users - STOP FLOODING OUR PRISON SYSTEM WITH NON-VIOLENT CRIMINALS. STOP RUINING LIVES OVER WHAT "SHOULD" BE A PERSONAL FREEDOM TO CHOOSE.

Protect the environment - do not support it's destruction = Fracking - Mountain top removal mining - the continued support for the use of fossil fuel.

Export peace not money or war. Send aid to the needy in food medicine and green technology that will allow the needy to support themselves cleanly. Grow peaceful technologies and export them to the world.

Protect and grow domestic business/jobs. Rework trade agreements so as not to undercut domestic business - continue incentives for "green" energy business - NO BIO FUEL IS NOT GREEN - the closest you can come in this area is - capture sewer and land fill and biomass gasses ( methane ) and put them to use as other technologies are brought on line - like solar wind geo-thermal thorium power plants liquid metal batteries for storage and distribution of the wide range of varied green power generating sources in harmony - hydrogen fuel cells etc etc etc. - phase out ( methane ) gas burning as the real clean sources of energy production come on line.

This and so much more - like a true universal health care program.

This Message is also to be considered by every single politician in the USA - state or national ___________ If you would like to contact the President or the Whitehouse:

http://www.barackobama.com/contact-us/ or email info2012@barackobama.com

You can also make contact here:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments


Yes I had to send them a copy. But it is mostly for public consideration that it was written.

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[-] 1 points by WeThePeop (-259) 2 years ago

Obama We can take Unemployment from 6 % to 10%...Yes we can

We can take gasoline from $1.80 to $4.50/gal…..Yes we can

We can increase the national debt by $ 5 Trillion in 3 years…...Yes we can

We can get more people on welfare & food stamps…Yes we can

We can double the number of homes in foreclosure…Yes we can

We can eliminate 2 Million jobs from this country…Yes we can

We can give away $ 500 Million to Solyndra…..Yes we can

We can fly all over the country Campaigning on Air Force One…Yes we can

We can visit all 57states….Yes we can

We can down grade the US credit rating for the first time in history…Yes we can

We can increase the cost of heating oil to over $ 3.00 a gallon…Yes we can

We can decrease the sales of homes to its lowest level in 20 years.....yes we can

We can play the race card any time we want…Yes we can

We can run this economy without a budget...Yes we can

We can pass laws without Congress…Yes we can

We can create a health care bill that nobody wants…..Yes we can

We can cut our Military leaving the country weak…Yes we can

We can sit idly by while Iran builds nuclear weapons…Yes we can

We can discourage any drilling for oil in the US….Yes we can

We can lie to the American people and the media will sell it...yes we can

We can go to Hawaii anytime we want For Free…..Yes we can

We can run semi-automatic weapons to Mexican Cartels in an attempt to circumvent the 2nd Amendment...Yes we can

We can quit smoking cigarettes…ooops….No we can’t

[-] 1 points by WSmith (1848) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

We can't pull your head out of your rectum. Sorry.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

You're right on some issues here... but you're also wrong on others or casting blame in the wrong place....

For one... reducing military spending would reduce future debts.

So when you say things like "We can run an economy without a budget" and then criticize cutting military spending.... you aren't thinking clearly.

Starting a war in Iran is a fucking stupid idea also.

[-] 0 points by WSmith (1848) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Who cares, it's all against Obama, it doesn't have to make any sense. Just keep screaming it.

[-] -1 points by WeThePeop (-259) 2 years ago

Starting a war in Iran is a fucking stupid idea also!!!!! I agree and also think that each Country or whatever should mind their own. That way there would be no conflicts. We have enough problems here in our Country

[-] -3 points by Barfnow (-16) 2 years ago

What has cutting military spending have to do. With an established budget. Every budget Obama has submitted has been resoundingly defeated by both parties in both houses. Cutting military spending is not a budget.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

The military budget is that portion of the United States discretionary federal budget that is allocated to the Department of Defense, or more broadly, the portion of the budget that goes to any military-related expenditures. ...The budget funds all branches of the U.S. military: Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps and Coast Guard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States

Currently defense spending is almost 60% of federal discretionary spending.

[-] -3 points by Barfnow (-16) 2 years ago

Yes, I know that. But it is NOT a general budget for the entire government. You know that. Why are you posting stupid shit?

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Defense spending is part of the budget. Fact.

It is one of the largest aspects.

You need to calm down.

[-] -1 points by Barfnow (-16) 2 years ago

And there it is.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

@UthePile - Where is your record of RINO interference? You are trying to present an incomplete story.

[-] -1 points by WeThePeop (-259) 2 years ago

How many statements in there "do you" think that are false??

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Having problems with comprehension Pile? You are leaving out a great deal of interference that is ongoing in this current administrative cycle.

[-] 0 points by WeThePeop (-259) 2 years ago

I am sure the list could be much longer and feel free to add to it, if you want to. At first I thought Obama might do some good but he ended up just being another dud like the some of past Pres's

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Some?

Which ones were a smashing success?

[-] -2 points by WeThePeop (-259) 2 years ago

I cannot recall one

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

So what were you expecting then?

[-] -2 points by WeThePeop (-259) 2 years ago

Not much then I guess. Have a good rest of the day

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Well, of course and may you have one too.

[-] -2 points by WeThePeop (-259) 2 years ago

Well actually he never did us any good, so I could have left "some" out. Thanks for bringing that to my attention friend :-)

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

You didn't answer the second question.

You should do that.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

franklin roosevelt

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

I agree, but he was a bit before my time.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

U and U're other shill cronies attack the current admin but not all of the elements of government ( members ) that made this current admin a near complete failure.

Huh - funny that.

It almost seems as though you want the sociopathic corpoRATist duo of mittens and Ayn to be given the office - so that they can complete the selling out of the USA.

Obummer is a poor choice at this point in time ( though to be honest - no one knows what the admin may have done if we had a strong people supporting senate and congress )

But mittens and ayn are suicide for the public.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

What's suicide is this country is supporting 4 men that do not present solutions and are funded by billions of dollars from private interests. And making equally dumb voting choices throughout congress.

Why aren't the candidates talking about real issues? - http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-government-works-for-the-1-this-includes-ryans/

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

That is why the people need to opt-in - get involved - start down the road to/of direct democracy.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

There were a bunch of candidates running unopposed in local government on my state's ballots this year. Next election I'm going to do what I can to get on the ballot against someone. I'm going to choose an unopposed position and simply run in the opposite party against them. Maybe I could win based on party politics alone. Most people who vote have no idea who some of these people are and just vote based on party. There's a republican box and a democrat box.

I think it would be fun even if I lost... But what if I won? What if I at least get awesome attack ads put on tv against me?

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Go for it.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

I'd have to move a few miles to be in the right district.... so it's something I'm looking into. One place has an unopposed mayor. I'll make my decision when my lease is up next summer at my apartment.

[-] 0 points by WeThePeop (-259) 2 years ago

As we and millions others like us "go back and forth on issues" the Gov as a whole is screwing all of us. I am not a Bush fan and he was a lousy Pres. The Iraq war was a war that was senseless but so is any war. Some on hear support Obama and hated Bush but they fail to realize that the majority of things that Bush did "like invade Iraq" both Obama and Biden, then as Senators both approved it. All of us rather being (Dem, Rep, Independent, Lib, OWS or Tea Party) are all getting shammed by the Gov

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Biden even said there was WMD's and Iraq was a threat to the USA way before Bush took office. He voted for that war too. Obama said he opposed it but he also funded it with his votes in the senate.

Then they got elected and increased the war in Afghanistan but his supporters insist they did it for peace. Because war is peace.

Also Bush was much worse than a lousy president. Bush along with Biden and everyone else who voted for that war should be in prison because they are war criminals.

Democrats don't fail to realize their candidates voted for war... they mentally block it out and DENY DENY and blame the other guy. It's the same tactic republicans use for their fuck ups. Deny Deny Deny... blame other guys.

These men are responsible for the deaths of innocent civilians yet they want to put people in prison for growing plants and breathing in weed smoke.

[-] -1 points by WeThePeop (-259) 2 years ago

Bush should be on trial for every American that got killed in Iraq, along with every Iraq citizen.

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

Saddam Husein should not have been put to death before the trial over gassing the Kurds. He was a US alley at the time

[-] 0 points by WSmith (1848) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

The POTUS PROposes and Congress DISposes.

But unilateral prudence and civility is getting very old.

Some major ass-kicking and garbage can beat'n are long overdue.

BUT

BHO has a special consideration, he cannot be a "fuck-up" first Black POTUS.

Denied success, with Judas support, martyrdom may be the next best thing.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

The only thing I care about in this current presidential election - is that Mittens and Ayn lose. Other then that I am hoping to see some intelligent state election choices.

What needs to happen - is the people need to push forward in getting active and promoting direct democracy action. The people need to get involved and stay involved.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (1848) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Yes but, some voters have been convinced that choosing one over another makes no difference. Some haven't even bothered to register. It's all fun and games (demonstrations and diatribe) until a rotten bastard wins by a hundred votes!!

http://www.rockthevote.com/rtv_voter_registration.html?source=rtv.com-homegraphic

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

IMO - if mittens wins - we may well see the public WTFU as they ( we ) get plowed under by the asshole. Things are ugly now - I don't want to see that mess.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (1848) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

That's what we said with Nixon and every other 1% tin horn autocrat from the GOP that followed. Meanwhile we have to waste decades recovering, when if we just remembered and did not repeat the mistake, we could be progressing and flourishing. Think what we could have done with the funds we lost from two bogus wars, rich-corp tax cuts and the greatest bank and treasury heist in world history (not to mention the dead, homeless and on and on). Make just one more mistake for the "Gipper," NFW!

Get the details of a Romney recovery: http://www.romneytaxplan.com/

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Just think what could have been done - if after WWII - that this country had kept going on improvements for society - an expansion on the GI bill that allowed veterans to buy a home and also to get advanced education.

Well - we really have a mess to clean-up now - and I hope we ( the public ) will have learned a valuable lesson this time around - not to opt out ever again.

[-] 0 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

Why do you waste so much energy on Obama? He's not going to change, he's part of the 1%. You should spend your energy on Occupy instead.

[-] 0 points by grapes (3312) 2 years ago

Establish a U.S. government bank that gets the same nearly 0% funding from the federal reserve and refinance all of the underwater or near-foreclosure mortgages at prevailing lower interest rates. Give the private banks a run for their money with government competition. This would get the housing market to turn around fast and boost the economy, hopefully in time for you-know-whose-neck-is-on-the-line election. The financial sector is so dominant that it will remain a millstone on our collective necks anyway so let the U.S. government takes it on with Texan gusto. Read my lips, there will be a replay of the financial crisis again without structural reform and the U.S. government will again run to rescue the fattest culprits of the crashes. Federal reserve's pumping credit is only fattening up the bloated banking sector's profit coffers - they are NOT revitalizing the economy with that credit by loaning it out.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Yep (updated) had to send it:

To Barack, Joe, and everyone in government.

"If" you get re-elected - you need to show that you really stand with the people.

You should kick the financial criminals out of your administration.

You should vigorously prosecute the economic criminals - do not try to tell us that fraud and usury are legal.

De-criminalize marijuana - make it legal for medical use - and at most a fine to be paid out of pocket for those who are not medical users - STOP FLOODING OUR PRISON SYSTEM WITH NON-VIOLENT CRIMINALS. STOP RUINING LIVES OVER WHAT "SHOULD" BE A PERSONAL FREEDOM TO CHOOSE.

Protect the environment - do not support it's destruction = Fracking - Mountain top removal mining - the continued support for the use of fossil fuel.

Export peace not money or war. Send aid to the needy in food medicine and green technology that will allow the needy to support themselves cleanly. Grow peaceful technologies and export them to the world.

Protect and grow domestic business/jobs. Rework trade agreements so as not to undercut domestic business - continue incentives for "green" energy business - NO BIO FUEL IS NOT GREEN - the closest you can come in this area is - capture sewer and land fill and biomass gasses ( methane ) and put them to use as other technologies are brought on line - like solar wind geo-thermal thorium power plants liquid metal batteries for storage and distribution of the wide range of varied green power generating sources in harmony - hydrogen fuel cells etc etc etc. - phase out ( methane ) gas burning as the real clean sources of energy production come on line.

This and so much more - like a true universal health care program.

This Message is also to be considered by every single politician in the USA - state or national

PS - anything you could do along these lines - RIGHT NOW - would go along way in redeeming yourself in the eyes of the public.

Just sayin.

[-] 1 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

If Barack gets re-elected it means the people are satisfied with how he's already been running the country. Why would he change anything? Surely, if the majority of Americans don't like what he's been doing they won't re-elect him.

You should focus your attention and energy on third parties, not Obama.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

This election = Obummer and anyone running for office that is for the people - the other elections local state and national in this cycle is where change can start - get enough good people in the senate and congressional house's and a piss poor president can be replaced - BUT NO WAY IN HELL SHOULD MITTENS & AYN BE GIVEN A SHOT AT THE WHITE HOUSE.

[-] 0 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

The system is broke my dear friend. Changing the actors on a putrid stage will not make it smell good. It's time to be serious about Occupy. Let's stop wasting our time writing letters to an absent President, and let's start Occupying. By occupying I mean the streets, not your fancy bed.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Is that you trashy or is it vvvbutthead (?) - can be so difficult to tell the difference between U 2.

I am so surprised ( NOT ) that you continue to advocate opting-out. Stick your head back-up your (.) where it belongs.

[-] -1 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

I did not advocate opting out. I advocate protesting, and no, that's not in your bed, but out in the street.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

talk to your hand - no one here believes a thing U say - well the shills support U - but that is still not belief.

[-] 0 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

But shills you support are any better? You are an Obama hack how can anyone belive what you say? It's blind support of Obama.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

F O veggie boy.

[-] 0 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

Lol awww come on hack, you kiss your mother with that mouth? Tell everyone how you are ind. and turn around and hack for Obama, and then wonder why you have no credibility.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Well Pee Pot um pod. A lesson 4 U that your hero's have not learned either - just because you say it is so does not mean it is so.

[-] -2 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

I never asked people to have faith in what I say, that's why I provide arguments.

You don't agree the system is broke? You don't agree that we should protest?

Then, you should provide arguments to defend your position.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Protest is needed and necessary - to wake up the rest of the public. But in itself it is not enough - the people need to own their government - not the other way around - and that takes getting involved.

[-] 1 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

Protesting is getting involved, don't you understand this?

[-] 3 points by Buttercup (1067) 2 years ago

There's a protest? Where?

[-] 0 points by Buttercup (1067) 2 years ago

Oh well pardon me. 130. A whole dozen in the US. You might not be able to evict and idea, but it can die a slow and painful death.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Protest is a part ( PART ) of involvement - Do U not understand this?

[-] -2 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

That's what I said. Your previous comment alluded to the idea that protesting wasn't equal to getting involved. "Protest is needed and necessary - to wake up the rest of the public. But in itself it is not enough - the people need to own their government - not the other way around - and that takes getting involved."

Note that Occupy does not only protest, it also advocates the use of direct democracy so that we, the people, can form our own government. The protest is needed to destroy the current government, and the direct democracy is needed to create our own government. Voting is not part of the Occupy equation, and it not considered as getting involved. Otherwise put, Occupy doesn't consider voting as being important, since it doesn't consider the current official political theatre as being legitimate. Real Occupy protesters don't write letters to Obama. They just don't care about him because he is part of the 1%. They work together to create a new world by themselves. Remember, WE DON'T NEED politicians.

[-] -1 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

I didn't mean broke as in money. I should have said broken. The system is broken.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

What system, or systems are broken and how are they broken?

[-] 0 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

You should know this, it's the corner stone of Occupy ideology. The governmental system in US is broken. There is no democracy, it has become an oligarchy. Occupy wants to change that by taking the system down and replacing it with something more democratic, like direct democracy.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

And here I thought the main point was that WallSreet was abusing not only we the people, but abusing our government too.

Strange, because I've held that belief for well over 30 years.

Somehow, I don't believe changing the government will do much without changing how Wallstreet and similar "investors" operate.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

If you removed congress and put in all normal people, things would change in a hurry.

If you removed all the CEO's and replaced them with normal people, things would go back to normal very quickly.

Wall st is private, can hire and fire people at will. Congress is elected and has terms.

[-] 0 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

Changing the actors without changing the stage won't help because the nature of the stage is what corrupts the actors. Your "normal people" would get sucked in the system and eventually become corrupt.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Normal people?

WallStreet would make mincemeat of them.

Without removing their influence over all things economic and governmental..................nothing will change.

They don't care what kind of government you toss at them, they will own it, no matter what it takes.

It's what they do.

[-] 0 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

The problem is you think WallStreet is not part of the governmental system. You think it's an outside influence that can be eradicated and the governmental system will suddenly become healthy again. This is false. The problem is the idea of having representatives, and having fewer and fewer of them as you go up the hierarchy. This is what opens up the door to bribery. When only a few men make decisions, people with money come around them and propose to give them money in exchange for decisions that favors them. If you take down WallStreet, there will be other people with money who will come from somewhere else. Power corrupts, and ultimate power corrupts ultimately. This is very true, and it's why hchc's idea of simply changing the actors would not help. The stage would still corrupt them.

Occupy's proposition of direct democracy is aimed at solving the bribery problem by making it near impossible. When everyone is involved in the decision process, then it's harder for a rich person to come in and bribe everyone, it's basically impossible. If the people made governmental decisions without representatives, then WallStreet could live on as it would have no way to impact the decisions of the people.

For such a system to work, we would need many specialists to analyze the issues and act as a guiding light to the people. They would not make decisions, but only suggest possibilities and help understand the problematics at hand. These people should be rotated very often and there should be many, this would make it harder for them to become corrupted. They should be individuals, not working together in a party format. This would eliminate collusion between them. So, if one or two analysts get offered bribes, the hundreds of others would make it so they cannot have much influence. We also need serious investigative journalists keeping an eye on them.

Of course, we also need sophisticated online systems to help the people communicate and make decisions across the country. Everything that happens should be made public in real-time so that people can keep up to date. This data also needs to be filtered and presented in a way that can be quickly digested. Economic reports, etc...

One problem is the need for governmental secrets for Defense. I'm not sure how this could be handled since only a few people would be allowed and should be allowed to know.

[-] 0 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

The point of direct democracy is that decisions are not linked to WallStreet. They come from the people, there are no representatives that can be bribed with cash.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

That's no guaranty.

There's nothing at all to prevent those same lobby experts from influencing the direct vote.

[-] -1 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

You spend far too much time guessing.

Then you extrapolate from those guesses.

Good luck getting 300,000,000+ people onto the same stage of understanding.

We are still a representative democratic republic.

Until that changes, it's what we have to work with.

Occupy was create to make that change happen. You're on the wrong site. If you don't want change, then you should be on a democrat website advocating for the status quo.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Occupy was create to make that change happen. You're on the wrong site. If you don't want change, then you should be on a democrat website advocating for the status quo.

You spend a lot of time repeating things too.

Then you make accusations, without really addressing what was said.

That means you are still guessing.

[-] -1 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

That's no guaranty.

There's nothing at all to prevent those same lobby experts from influencing the direct vote.

I guess you fail to understand the most basic goals of Occupy. Of course, you're here to support Obama, and not Occupy, and that's OK.

There's a huge difference between using representatives and direct democracy. And that difference is the level of involvement. Representatives are easy to bribe because the people don't know everything behind the scenes, and it's worthwhile to try to bribe them because power is concentrated with a few of them. In a direct democracy, the people are much more aware of what's going on.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

You spend far too much time guessing.

Then you extrapolate from those guesses.

Good luck getting 300,000,000+ people onto the same stage of understanding.

We are still a representative democratic republic.

Until that changes, it's what we have to work with.

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

So you dont think Occupy would have the balls to reverse legislation and put them in jail if they were in Congress?

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

I think OWS has been driven off point.

OWS is not running for anything at all.

It's been driven away from that.

That has nothing to do with what I said anyway, but that's what you do.....

[-] -1 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

But then the Obama hacks will have nothing to do. Make no mistake this is no independent site it's a pro Obama election site (some even vol. on his re-election camp.)

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6441) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Good post, a little feedback, if you don't mind?

I think algae shows promise as bio-fuel, remember the carbon is recycled not released.

I would caution about falling into the "de-criminlize" trap I think that drug testing because cannabis stays in the system so long is a huge drag on our economy driving the very people who are smart enough to see that cannabis is better than alcohol from the job market in many cases. They do make up a fair number of our entrepreneur class though as a result.

[-] 0 points by Faraujo (-4) 2 years ago

Yeah, protect domestic jobs just means more corruption and Solyndras. That will really help us. Face it, Obama is a rookie and doesn't know what to do. He has lost the business community. Jack Welch and Steve Wynn have turned against him.

[-] 1 points by grapes (3312) 2 years ago

And I may add that in spite of the kissing up, Wall Street still sold their dog-and-pony show down the river.

[-] 0 points by WSmith (1848) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

All nice.

Sorry, POTUS isn't dictator.

We have to purge the T-Baggers that we let in, first.

Massive blunders have exponential consequences!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

RINO's/Dino's a corpoRATist by any other name smells just as foul.

Yes - they need to receive the boot.

All of em!!!!

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6441) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I've no taste for dictators myself, I do agree that the GOP is nothing but a front for the 1%, but to think that we can just do away with government is to do away with democracy, I didn't think OWS was about that.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

There are people in office today that are not sold out as of yet. Or we would not be having this conversation. The fact of the matter is - that many in office are being bought - and they all of em ( that have sold out - who do not support the people ) have got to receive their pink-slip.

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (6441) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

You speak of the conversation, if Romney (and or then Ryan) appoints the next four , (and if Ryan were to follow it could be five Justices), we would see a extremest Court for the next thirty to forty years with a 7-2 majority. I think it is hard for many to imagine what America might look like if that happens, so yes there are a number of issues, but the big picture matters too.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

The big picture is all of the issues that have been posted here and more - all of them tie together - government and private interests - wallstreet and the economic meltdown, refusal to try the bankster criminals - fossil fuel and the runaway gasoline prices, destruction/poisoning of the environment, wars for the control of fossil fuel resources. Foreign trade and the loss of jobs here in the USA due to outsourcing. For profit healthcare system and insurance - for profit education etc etc etc etc - The drug war/prohibition - prison time for smoking marijuana etc etc etc The growing homeless population the growing numbers of poor - housing sitting empty and more being emptied due to criminal banking practices like illegal foreclosure usury predatory lending etcetcetc Debtors prison etcetcetcetcetcetc Loss of rights = the attack on peaceful protest - the attack on freedom of speech - the war on women's rights etcetcetcetcetcetcetcetc

[-] -1 points by grapes (3312) 2 years ago

You are absolutely right - the coming appointments to the U.S. Supreme Court will be the most important single issue for the coming election. However, if we get an extremist Supreme Court majority, it can hasten the day of the Deliverance, South American style with mounting inequality and injustice and Texas-style solutions will work again.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6441) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

you are insane

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 2 years ago

Dictators taste a bit like spare ribs.

ows is about making everyone accountable, and reinstating credibility, and legality.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Because of your bogus claim that Obama cannot do these things because "POTUS isn't dictator" I am going to go through each item and show where you are misinformed of where the president has power.

Are you saying Obama can't change Wall Streeters he himself appointed in his administration?

Do you know what the DOJ is under? Executive branch.

Probably can't decriminalize on his own... but he could at least advocate and speak out... instead of saying "marijuana should be illegal"

Fracking is more of a state issue or a congress issue... I'll give you that one.

Obama is the commander in Chief. He holds a high authority in regards to war. He actually approves the drone strikes.

Rework trade agreements - more of a congress thing. but he could still advocate for passing trade agreements that mandate imports abide by American labor standards. Obama also can't do much on creating clean energy. More of a congress and private sector thing.

He probably couldn't pass medicare for all... but he could at least speak about it.

We do indeed have to purge all those not working on these issues.

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (6441) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

If Romney/Ryan appoint the next four or five, Sheldon Anderson will be King.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Sheldon Adelson*

And at 20 billion plus... he already is a king.

[-] -2 points by WSmith (1848) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

"Most of the self-proclaimed "independent" — or, if you prefer, "undecided" voters — are simpletons who probably have to hire someone to cut their oatmeal into tiny chunks every morning so that they don't choke to death, and also have to explain to them that the raisins are not tiny landmines that will detonate in their mouths and destroy their molars."

MORE: http://occupywallst.org/forum/vp-debate-2012-the-real-paul-ryan-is-bad-for-ameri/

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

what does that have to do with anything I said?

You got nothing?

And in regards to your post... Paul Ryan is indeed bad for America. In fact he's terrible. Still doesn't mean you can make bogus claims and excuses for this president.

[-] 0 points by WSmith (1848) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Don't you have Unicorns to wrangle!

[-] -3 points by Clicheisking (-210) 2 years ago

So a purge of conservatives is necessary to begin with.

[-] -1 points by WSmith (1848) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Don't you clean your pans before you cook with them?

You do your best, you can never get them all.

Baggers are hardly conservative.

[-] 0 points by marvelpym (-184) 2 years ago

What are their plans for a second term? I know Obama has ideas because of what he told the Russian guy to tell Putin ("This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility", in case you forgot), but haven't seen anything in commericals except attacks on Romeny.

[-] 3 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

"This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility"

that's the reality of our political system. if Obama gets re elected we'll get a glimpse of who he really is.

[-] 0 points by Mooks (1985) 2 years ago

It may be his last election but all the Democrats in the House and a third of the Senate are going to have elections in just 2 short years. A big step to the left for Obama means a big step to the right in Congress two years later. Americans tend to moderate their elected representatives. Obama no doubt knows this. I think it is pretty naive to think a 2nd Obama term will be all that much different that the first.

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Possibly in one or two significant ways. Seems to me Biden was telling Ryan to "cool it" regarding Syria and Iran.

[-] 1 points by alva (-442) 2 years ago

take a look at agenda 21 and the UN small arms treaty, which supercedes the US constitution.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

You have been watching very selective programming then - for every attack add on mittens there have been about five on Obummer. Same with the other attack adds - about a five to one repub (rino) to dem ( and dino ).

For 1 - I think we have a real nasty thing to face down in the trans pacific trade deal being hatched.

Hell who knows? what will happen in the 2nd go round - Obummer won't have to worry about re-election - so maybe this is when he might squash some criminal economic bugs - nothing to lose at that point in time.

[-] 0 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 2 years ago

That would be nice wouldn't it?

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Necessary.

[-] -1 points by Barfnow (-16) 2 years ago

Didn't do anything his first term. In fact, most of his policies ( when there was any policy) have made the general situation worse. Why should he do anything different?

[-] -1 points by jtland (30) 2 years ago

All points to prove our government DOES NOT work for the people! Take back the Government that is supposed to work for YOU! Demand action! #getinvolved #makeAdifference http://vote-pedia.com/

[-] -1 points by Clicheisking (-210) 2 years ago

Ineffective bullshit. Neither of them give a damn about the people. What part of that don't you understand?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

People uniting - saying - OH HELL NO - WTF DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND????????????

[-] 0 points by Clicheisking (-210) 2 years ago

Banging on pots and pans? Are you so stupid you think that will effect change? Really?

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Go opt yourself out in your closet.

[-] -1 points by Clicheisking (-210) 2 years ago

Yeah. No answer. You may be the biggest cliche here. Pity.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

So going by your name - you have just placed me on a pedestal? I would prefer you worship your porcelain throne where you no doubt fish out your dinners.

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[-] 0 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

You won't get the party hack to see your point, the only thing he likes to hear is reps are bad and Obama will save us.

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[-] -1 points by marvelpym (-184) 2 years ago

The Tea Party unites and says the same thing. Big difference is they put people in office. Too bad we can't unite around a third party candidate. Guitarmies aren't going to cut it.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Go 3rd party in your state local and national elections. Or go back to reading your comics.

[-] 0 points by marvelpym (-184) 2 years ago

Well. If that's your attitude i just might. But then again, that would mean no more of your letters, so I'll hang around.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Oh - geeze - there goes my ulcer.

[-] -1 points by Clicheisking (-210) 2 years ago

And if Obama is re elected he won't do any of that.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (25063) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Time will tell - what I do know beyond any shadow of a doubt - is that we do not want mittens and ayn in the white house.