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Forum Post: Barack Hussein Obama is a Neo-Confederate according to GreedKills

Posted 12 years ago on Jan. 9, 2012, 6:45 p.m. EST by FrogWithWings (1367)
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Which one she asks and he answers "the original constitution AS WELL AS the civil war amendments...."

Now that just has to sound crazy for those of you who insist there has never been any monkey motion with our nation's first bankruptcy pact, which indeed that Constitution was, see Article 6 and realize the Revolutionary war did require borrowed money from foreign entities.



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[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

still the president

yep US only pays 41% of the total world military budget

World Military budget in Billions (percent total) by Nation

  • 1,630 World Total
  • 711 United States 41%
  • 143 China 8.2%
  • 71.9 Russia 4.1%
  • 62.7 United Kingdom 3.6 %
  • 62.5 France 3.6%
  • 54.5 Japan 3.3&
  • 48.2 Saudi Arabia 2.8%
  • 46.8 India 2.5%
  • 46.7 Germany 2.8%
  • 37.0 Italy 2.3%


Global Arms Sales By Supplier Nations

39% United States

18% Russia

8% France

7% United Kingdom

5% Germany

3% China

3% Italy

11% Other European

5% Others


TOP 10 Arms Produces

Notes: An S denotes a subsidiary company. A dash (–) indicates that the company did not rank among the SIPRI Top 100 for 2009

  • Lockheed Martin USA 35,730 33,430 78
  • BAE Systems UK 32,880 32,540 95
  • Boeing USA 31,360 32,300 49
  • Northrop Grumman USA 28,150 27,000 81
  • General Dynamics USA 23,940 23,380 74
  • Raytheon USA 22,980 23,080 91
  • BAE Systems Inc. (BAE Systems, UK) USA 17,900 19,280 100
  • EADS Trans-European 16,360 15,930 27
  • Finmeccanica Italy 14,410 13,280 58 +L-3 Communications USA 13,070 13,010 83
  • United Technologies USA



[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

who's got a career these days

never held a job for more than 3 years

there is no future security


[-] 0 points by Odin (583) 12 years ago

Good post, thanks. Imagine if some of the money spent here went towards repairing our crumbling infrastructure, and helping students with their college loans so that we could be more competitive in the world. We could also think about shoring up social security, medicare, and a host of other things. How silly of me to think like this.

[-] 1 points by GreedKills (1119) 12 years ago

More lies from the Cult of Paul, they will slander and lie to get you to support Ron Paul. I see all my threads are gone about Ron's ties to Christian reconstructionism. Beware OWS you have wolves among your sheep.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

There have been at least 3 major bot attacks, and I believe there is still a minor one under way.

I haven't looked for that stuff on Mr. P for while now, but I'm not surprised that it's now buried.

There is really very little to recommend about him.

BTW welcome back Gman...........:)

[-] 1 points by GreedKills (1119) 12 years ago

Hope all is well with you and yours shooz and thank you for welcome. Sad to say I believe now the Paulbearers will really think I'm a real Gman! Oh all those conspiracies, hard to keep track ya know ;) But I must say these folks will not stop, as we see with the stealing of delegates even though their "guy" got less than 10% of the national vote. Crazy times......

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago


Sorry. I forgot about the old B&W movie connotations......:)

Don't want the trolls to run with that one!

I was just too lazy at the time to type out GreedKills.

Yes the saga of Mr. P is a strange one. I guess it just shows the power of Alex Jones.

It always bothered me, that thrassy, our local conspiracy theory identifier, never had a comment on the ultimate conspiracy theory.

The one that's actually staring us in the face.

Mr. P.

[-] 2 points by GreedKills (1119) 12 years ago

It's OK about the Gman comment I can take the heat. Sad though this forum has been over run by the far far far right. I just hope that the Christian Courts Ron/Rand Paul would like to see in place would treat all people fairly. This coming from a non church going Christian, the way Jesus wanted it.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

I know I get attacked hard any time I explain how libe(R)tarians have invaded and co-opted our political system.

They will scream as to how the Kochs have nothing to do with libertarians.

Pointing out that they founded the party and are trying to re-acquire CATO fall on deaf ears.

They are still very much here on this forum and still trying to affect this movement, or at least it's supporters.

They just don't talk about Mr. P so much.

[-] 2 points by GreedKills (1119) 12 years ago

Don't forget Alan Greenspan the Randian Libertarian, just like Ron Paul.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

Greenspan's love of Ayn and neoliberal economics gets little attention.

It's not Austrian enough they will say.

Don't forget Paul Ryan trying in vain to distance himself from libertarianism, while Rand Paul embraces her philosophy in it's entirety.

What else could be said of Walker? Snyder? Scott? Christie? And others?

They are all libertarians masquerading as (R)epelicant's

[-] 1 points by GreedKills (1119) 12 years ago

Boy the Libertarians don't like your comment....it must be the truth!!!


[-] -2 points by ClaraSprings (91) 12 years ago

The reason I never attacked the Ron Paul supporters is because I don't know much about Ron Paul. I'm not from US. That's why I attack the well known conspiracy theories, 911 Truthers, NWO, etc...

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

Mr. P is very much supported and promoted by Alex Jones, and has been for many years, so I find your statement a bit hard to believe........

[-] -1 points by ClaraSprings (91) 12 years ago

I really don't know him at all. I don't know Alex Jones that much either since I don't watch American TV or listen to American Radio. I know of Alex Jones from reading conspiracy theory websites. I know of David Icke from reading parts of his books. I will research Mr. Ron Paul and if what you say is true I will attack the Ron Paulers with more vehemence.

If you need a Ron Pauler dedicated bot, just let me know.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

If you don't know about Alex Jones, you don't really know much about conspiracy theorists.

Why in the World would anyone read an Icke book?

If you want to do some research into actual conspiracy probabilities, look into the libertarians that run most of the Worlds corporations.

Screw Icke, the Bigfooters, agenda 21 and all the rest.

I believe this ones happening........................and it has no need of aliens.


[-] -1 points by ClaraSprings (91) 12 years ago

There are other sources one can use to learn about conspiracy theories, there isn't only Alex Jones radio show.

Why would one want to read an Icke book? Well, I'll be honest, I haven't read a complete book from Icke. I skimmed through. The reason, to understand what I'm up against. If one wants to fight something, he should know what that thing is. The best OWS protester for example would be one who knows very well how American economics function. You'll be surprised, but many anarchists are well versed in capitalism.

But, you are right, I don't know too much about conspiracy theories. Not like you. I'm far from being an expert. I know of some surface aspects. That's about it. I couldn't tell you all the levels of the Illuminati and so on.

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

There are real attempts to inject it even into real science.

Isn't refusing to accept, accepted science a form of the kinds of conspiracy you claim to be fighting against?

Is a teaching program "balanced" by including pseudo science?


This is REAL stuff, not bigfoot.

[-] 0 points by ClaraSprings (91) 12 years ago

No, a teaching program is not balanced by including pseudoscience, not in the same way as science at least. You can teach about pseudosciences and their dangers of course. That's good. You always have to separate science from pseudoscience because pseudosciences always try to fool you into thinking they are science. That's the problem. The deception. There would be no problem if people doing pseudoscience like astrology or conspiracy theories admitted it wasn't based on science.

Science wants to be honest, and pseudoscience wants to be dishonest. Those are their natures.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

Yet there's the proof that it's happening.

There's even more proof of it happening in regards to evolution.

Is there any doubt that it's the "right" wing promoting such pseudo science?

Since it's actually happening, would you consider it a conspiracy or a conspiracy theory?


I think the provable reality deserves more attention than the crap renneye has posted here, and your attention to her is misguided at best.

There are much bigger fish to be fried than those that want to think the Illuminati have much to do with anything at all.

[-] 0 points by ClaraSprings (91) 12 years ago

I'm not sure what you are talking about. What do you claim is actually happening?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

I gave you a link to one such conspiracy.

It's easy enough to find all the religious doctrine being taught as science, at least in terms of evolution and earth science.

That you aren't aware of this, makes me question even more of what you've said.

In fact, I find your responses so far to be disingenuous at best, and fact free at their worst.

[-] -1 points by ClaraSprings (91) 12 years ago

As you wish.

[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

The idiot - scuse me conspiracy theory warrior. Has already said that he does not understand the concept. He has skimmed a book and now has set out on a holy mission that he does not understand.

Can you say ILL prepared and lost?

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

He has accused me of promoting conspiracy theory, though he refused to describe which he believes I'm promoting.

So I'll give him a REAL conspiracy, against science..

[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

But that is just the thing. He can not see the difference between a theory and a fact.

Somehow he relates all conspiracy to being a theory.

There is no connection to understanding.

So have fun trying to educate the UN-educate-able.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

True. He still doesn't accept the cowardice of bots.

Nor the simple fact, that from a personal perspective, it's ALL a conspiracy theory.

Some just seem wackier than others.

[-] -1 points by ClaraSprings (91) 12 years ago

No. Conspiracy theories do not use the scientific method, while other types of theories do.

There's a huge difference. What bothers me about conspiracy theories is not so much the ludicrous claims as the flawed method of research. This is what is extremely dangerous. Actually, conspiracy theories that aren't so out there are more dangerous since they do a better job at concealing how flawed the method is. In the case of crazy theories like shapeshifting reptilian overlords, it becomes evident that something in the research methodology is seriously wrong.

I'm extremely serious when I say that a better society can only be built by the use of solid and sound logic. Pseudosciences are a lie from the get go. Their whole point is to pretend to be sciences.

I'm sure you are aware that some people including children have committed suicide because of the 2012 end of the world conspiracy theories. People who were too scared to face the impending doom we will soon witness in a few months time. That's a huge problem.

Conspiracy theories are EXTREMELY dangerous because they destroy the logic of a people. If we are not careful, such things as Creationism and Intelligent Design will be taught in our schools and be passed of as science. So far, we have kept such rubbish away from the science class, but if we are not careful it could easily sneak under our noses in the future.

[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

There is a definite disconnect from reality.

He often times seems to be in support of corporate activity and yet now I caught him arguing in favor of state run not for profit health care - no insurance just providers.

Funny - strange.


[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

borrowed money from whom, England?!!


[-] 0 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago


"Typical white person" he says?

does this make him very racist?

[-] 0 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago


but really, why does he not call for an Article 5 Convention?


I mean he thinks it's been around for 2000 years so why not spiff it up a bit NOW?



I mean even though he says it's 2000 years old, he knew 10 years ago he felt there was a problem with it and wealth redistribution, well, it appears he's continuing assisting more upwards.

I'll get a sun tan and perm for a bail out and in 2001 he said it was an Administrative Task.


oooops! 16 years ago there was BHO race baiting.......... go affirmative action and continue to score african americans higher than native americans!


[-] 0 points by PretendHitGirI (13) 12 years ago

You say the word and I'll get all up in day bidniz.

[-] 0 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

GreedKills is a psychopath that should be watched closely, but, you need to chill.