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Forum Post: Awake 3.0

Posted 7 years ago on May 31, 2016, 6:47 p.m. EST by agkaiser (2516) from Fredericksburg, TX
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"And once you are awake, you shall remain awake eternally." Thus spake Zarathustra.

What does it mean to be "awake" and how do we know we are awake?

When you are awake you'll know what ---

  • It means to know the meaning of the Fall: the loss of the Garden of Eden.

  • It means to know the meaning of the story of Cain and Able and many other tales of the ancients.

  • It means to know that the Original Sin that we inherit is to have the many work for the enrichment of the few and that it's harmful to the human race whether you work for another are are worked for by others.

More, though, can be redeemed and poverty can be made less probable by taxing the rich and thus removing their class from power than by austerity as punishment for being the poor who work for them - or would if there were more jobs. Even the poor on welfare are less dangerous than the rich. The least among us are arguably the least sinful of all.

When you are awake you'll know what the New Testament saying, "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven." really means. You'll also no that the source of that and the source of, "The poor will always be with us." are not the same. You'll know who and why each was said. When you know without doubt that the former could have been said by a Christ and the latter only by an anti-Christ, you are on the way to awakening or have arrived.

To awaken, one must want to be awake. To be fully awake is rare.

Bernie partially awakens some and "the Donald" partially awakens others. Both point out more or less real problems and propose more or less good or more or less evil solutions. Neither is fully awake and so can not fully awaken. The desire is not fully developed.

Shit! I'm starting to remind myself of the I Ching. Where did I put that book, when I set it aside a few years ago?



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[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 years ago

''Class consciousness has ebbed and flowed throughout US history, peaking in the 1920s and '30s. But it has been extremely limited during the last 50 years of neoliberalism, as wages have stagnated despite a rapid increase in productivity (see figure 1). In the 1970s we saw the "advent of 'neoliberal' capitalism," as Dollars & Sense described it -- the "triumph of an economic policy agenda hostile to government economic intervention, social welfare programs, and labor organization," which was part of a broader shift to the right. But while working class anxiety and financial insecurity both rose during this period, for decades, organized mobilization from the working class did not rise up to resist it.

''Neoliberalism still persists today as the dominant ideology, but it also faces strong, organized resistance -- and the Sanders campaign is one reflection of this. "Sanders is trying to break from neoliberalism," Steve Maher of York University told Truthout in late 2015.

''Sanders managed to place socialism -- however hazily defined -- into the US mainstream for the first time in generations. This was unthinkable in the years before Occupy; and the economic conditions it resisted, created conditions for Sanders to thrive nationally. This, in addition to the millions of dedicated (often young) activists Sanders has mobilized, has laid the groundwork for more Americans to have real conversations about the ways in which US capitalism has failed the working class. The Sanders movement, of course, comes just seven years after the economic system nearly collapsed (spared only by taxpayers' unwitting subsidization of the big banks' losses) and five years after the birth of Occupy Wall Street -- the most meaningful act of resistance to the neoliberal era in the US since the World Trade Organization protests of 1999 in Seattle.'' - from ...

omnia causa fiunt ...

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2516) from Fredericksburg, TX 7 years ago

thank you

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 years ago

"Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak; and that it is doing God's service when it is violating all his laws." [John Adams]

Solidarity ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 years ago

''Chris Hedges and Kshama Sawant on How to counter Establishment Politics'':

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 years ago

Alas ''The Drum Beat Has Begun'', by John Pilger [Audio]

''John Pilger provides an outside perspective on U.S. politics''

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 years ago

The point is that millennials, just like the presidential candidate they support, get it ! http://blogs.alternet.org/election-2016/why-millennials-love-bernie-sanders

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 7 years ago

"Then the master called the servant in. 'You wicked servant, ' he said, 'I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to. Shouldn't you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?'" - Matt. 18:32-33.

The younger generations blame the Boomer generation for their plights now but I have lived through all of that and the older generations truly had bigger rotting fish to fry. There were all of those really frightening boomers, the multiple MIRV-nuclear-missiles-armed nuclear submarines under the oceans (not like the Little Mermaid's "Under the Sea" theme song's sea critters alright!) that kept us hovering over the frying pan day and night. There were nuclear fallout shelters in the basements of apartment buildings. There were military rations and deionized water in steel drums there. There were emergency drills in schools to crouch us down under our desks away from glass windows, should we see the flash of a nuclear bomb exploding near us or get early warning. The defense doctrine was Mutual-Assured-Destruction or MAD while there were crises and skirmishes on multiple continents that nearly went nuclear. We did survive. We also got to sing "Under the Sea" and lullabies to our boom-boom tritium-dated babies.

Had we not succeeded at a precarious nuclear peace, none of our now-grown beloved babies' plights would have mattered or even existed.

I understand the clear and present danger and the injustice of The Matrix with its huge number of encased human batteries, the cyberviral agents, and the artificial reality (corresponding to our cotton-candied-contents-deprived rerun/'[non-]reality-TV' election coverage and media), but be patient and focused, as it has to be a multi-generational effort to rebirth our world, for supernovae' stardust children we are, we were, and we are yet to come, wie immer.

"Every day has enough troubles unto itself." Day by day, night by night, go ahead, and make it right! Dylan Thomas: "Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light."

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23740) 7 years ago

Watch this episode of the Keiser Report a. If you are already awake and want to hear others who are too. And, b. if you are not awake, and you want to wake up. It's scary stuff, to be honest, but must be faced.


"In this episode of the Keiser Report, Max and Stacy discuss whether ‘the system’ can survive robots and whether a man can stand on his own, as the military industrial complex provides much of the technology behind the biggest success stories in Silicon Valley. In the second half, Max continues his interview with Professor Robert McChesney about his book, People Get Ready: The Fight Against a Jobless Economy and a Citizenless Democracy."

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 7 years ago

The Islamic State (IS) has been a rather effective job-creation organization responding to the needs of what Max Keiser called our 'superfluous class'. Watch this Saturday Night Live's parody of a Toyota Camry advertisement: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/father-daughter-ad/2850279

What are we going to do to replace the jobs lost by degrading the IS? Maybe the job issue is less of a problem to us than for our allies in the Middle East because local recruitment is easier for IS but still is this job issue the REAL reason why so many of our allies there are extremely reluctant to help us fight IS?

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23740) 7 years ago

Infrastructure, renewable energy, education, healthcare for all (we'd need more healthcare workers). There are lots of other ways to create jobs than evil doing. No excuse.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 7 years ago

None of what you mentioned has been possible for many years already with the Retard-i-can't control of the Cesspool on the Potamkin although the Demonkrapts had flooded it for a short while. IS inspiration created "jobs" in the funerary industry, especially last week in Orlando, Florida, U.S.A.

I wonder when the pothole on West 57th street will swallow the "billionaire" lounging in the Russian Tea Room next to Carnegie Hall. Texas has its own tea, too. Speeding on FDR drive (simulating a roller coaster, eh?) is a rodeo ride for the urban cowboys, an absolute adventure to a crash equivalent or grave, sometimes. I saw grimy "waterfalls" in the subways. There will surely be more derelict bridge collapses.

I want to know why the U.S. paved the dusty countries with greenbacks to the effect of them blaming it all on the U.S. and hating us. It's idiotic to try to grow greenback golf courses for the places where the sandy dust (so the U.S. gets Grit?) is served with every bite of fool or deserts. It used to be Eden but it has no chance of ever becoming a country club of greenbackturf.

The legacy of "No Child Left Behind" is "Every Child Left Behind" due to the ease of dumbing down rather than smartening up. Pitch resources towards smartening up the dumbest while ignore the cultivation of the smartest. Nature still has its veto power, though. Genius, still widely dispersed through all classes, hasn't been e-duc-ated yet through artificial insemination, despite the might of the U.S.A.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 7 years ago

At first, we don't know what we don't know. (innocent bliss)

Next, we know what we know. (formal education - hubris)

Then, in the epiphany of 2001, we don't know what we know. (über-AI in real world, not just models - disillusionments, M xSA, compartmentalization, and rage)

Finally, we know what we don't know - to limits, forms, and their fuzziness, we have awakened!

{eternal bliss - Friede,



[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2516) from Fredericksburg, TX 7 years ago

"Hah Hah!" taunted Nelson.