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Forum Post: Assange on the NSA and Empire Status

Posted 8 months ago on Dec. 30, 2013, 6:31 p.m. EST by AlwaysIntoSomething (42)
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“These powers do not give up voluntarily any significant ability to control the world like that,” Assange told RT.

http://rt.com/news/assange-wikileaks-mediastan-surveillance-950/

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[-] 7 points by beautifulworld (20882) 8 months ago

“Getting our privacy back is the same kind of question as getting democracy back, or freedom of information back. And in my point of view, this is a process you have to strive for more or less every day. And in that respect, there are many different things that can be done. But the most important part is building public awareness about these issues,” he told RT."

Public awareness about the issues, both economic and social, is the number one success of OWS which has changed the conversation in this country, and is the main reason for the existence of this forum.

Happy New Year and solidarity with all of those who post here for the 99%!!

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[-] 0 points by AlwaysIntoSomething (42) 8 months ago

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, because private or public, there should be no surveillance to begin with. Warehouses filled with "classified" info shows it doesnt matter where corruption is laid out, or who is paying it.

Snowden is helping to privatize the spying? huh?

[-] 6 points by beautifulworld (20882) 8 months ago

Here is a timely piece from the NY Times calling Snowden a "whistleblower" who should do no time in prison and who should be free to live his life:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/02/opinion/edward-snowden-whistle-blower.html?hp&rref=opinion&_r=0

"When someone reveals that government officials have routinely and deliberately broken the law, that person should not face life in prison at the hands of the same government."

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 months ago

same applies to Manning for the leaks about military operations

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20882) 8 months ago

Absolutely. Great point.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 8 months ago

I see the media releases about Bradley Manning, they're already referring to him as female, and using another name.

Does anyone really think he's had the procedure, and why are they even going down that path?

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (20882) 8 months ago

Well, they are trying to malign him, of course, but I don't think it works because even if he has become a female he is simply proving how authentic he is. He doesn't hide from what he feels and believes is right.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 8 months ago

Meanwhile, the focus shifts from what he exposed, to what they are exposing about him.

How very fucking convenient..

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20882) 8 months ago

Exactly.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 months ago

as far as i am aware

Manning isn't allowed to make public statements

so the government could be lying

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[-] 1 points by AlwaysIntoSomething (42) 8 months ago

The corruption being done by the private sector is more disturbing to you than the government doing it? Why? One is done directly with your tax dollars, the other is done with your tax dollars but theres a middle man.

Its still 100% unacceptable either way, and its not like you have more control when the gov is doing it, as all of those "classified" documents show.

Listen, you were the one on the phone campaigning for this shit - while being aware of all of it- so dont start calling me the tool.

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[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 8 months ago

Oh, upper hand assumed.

I've noticed your classism coming to the fore.

We might have to discuss that at the lynching ceremony.

Or not. Your call.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4650) 8 months ago

This privacy robbing event, is likely all part of a Grand Plan.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (20882) 8 months ago

I think you are right, Nevada. And, I think the wealthy and the corporations and our bought politicians are behind it. It's all about money in the end. Instilling fear in an attempt to justify what is pure b.s. so they can enrich themselves.

[-] -2 points by AlwaysIntoSomething (42) 8 months ago

Happy New Years to you too!

OWS was also a good wake up call to see how our nation's leaders feel about the people leading themselves.

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (20882) 8 months ago

Yep, and sometimes it feels like we get sprayed with pepper spray right here on the forum for some reason. Weird, huh?

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 months ago

. . .

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[-] -1 points by AlwaysIntoSomething (42) 8 months ago

Power corrupts.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 8 months ago

Ultimate power corrupts completely.

Familiarity breeds contempt.

We have arrived at that rather tense situation, where the regulars all hate eachother's guts.

Where is the love, peeps?

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 8 months ago

Actually, Builder-one of our dear regulars should be congratulated. I am surprised that no one has thought about doing this before.

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[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 8 months ago

Well, I might know you, and I might not.

But if you've been around these parts, hombre, you might have noticed that the three musketeers and I, have jousted over the days and weeks and months and years.

I just personally couldn't be arsed jousting any longer. It's like a broken record (remember those round vinyl records?) playing over and over again.

The forum seems to be at the point again. It does nothing for the readership, and even less for the posters.

Sadly, it reduces interest, and compounds problems of acceptance.

Not sure what to do, except to simply talk about it. Sometimes that works.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 months ago

well ...

the news never stops

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