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Forum Post: Arsenic+Chicken+Rice=???

Posted 2 years ago on Sept. 19, 2012, 4:50 p.m. EST by shoozTroll (17632)
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"Rice is particularly effective at picking up arsenic from soil, CR reports, "in part because it is one of the only major crops grown in water-flooded conditions, which allow arsenic to be more easily taken up by its roots and stored in the grains.""

Here's wonderful diversion from the usual political BS going on around here.

A kind of trifecta, a triopoly of sorts.

A little arsenic, without the old lace.

A kind of poisoning for fun and profit.

http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2012/09/waiter-theres-arsenic-my-rice

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[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4835) 2 years ago

Chicken manure is fed to cattle, likely causing some arsenic contamination of beef.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (1377) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

EVERYTHING is political!

As a sushi addict, I am concerned about my loved ones and myself.

As an American, I'm concerned about how can we redistribute all this tainted rice to the GOP?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (22338) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

U R a sushi addict? ummm - Perhaps you would want to have your blood checked for toxins found in seafood due to pollution - mercury is only one of a number of different toxins known to accumulate in sea food.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (1377) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Iceland consumes a lot of fish and they are prosecuting Banksters and turning out 80-90% to vote!

My ex-doctor told me that checking my blood for toxins was a "philosophical idea." So I switched to Kaiser.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

I know, thanks for noticing.

I was wrong. I should have said usual BS and left it at that.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Some people have a problem understanding that we are all political and we are all partisan.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (1377) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

You can say that again!

In fact, keep saying that over and over. I think many who are/were "new" to this whole political/democracy thing have smacked into a very confusing reality.

Meanwhile, let's go Icelandic, we have 47 days to start!

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Love what they are doing in Iceland, not sure if that's possible here, at least not yet.

[-] 2 points by WSmith (1377) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

"Wouldn't be prudent at this juncture"? Please make that stop!

It's true they've (Icelandics) had a whopping head start, but these are modern times, despite those of us on the Reich who believe we still live in the Gilded Age. With Internet we are capable of enormous exponential changes. Just a few days ago Chic Filet was hating on the gays, not anymore! And even before Fox Lies, we went from hating the Nixon-Watergate GOP to dropping to our knees for uber GOP avatar, Ronnie Raygun, in less than one Carter hostage-crisis term.

Let's get Jamie Dimon a room with a view of Bernie Madoff. Let's get out our inner Iceland!! And let's do it YESTERDAY!! We have a lot of catching up to do!

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

How do you propose we use the internet to accomplish this?

You seem to also feel that it's useless for this sort of thing.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (1377) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Nothing mysterious or tricky, just instant and unfettered communication. We take it for granted, but there are times I think people in other parts of the country are completely cut off. Internet transcends (possibly confirms) that. It made (contributed) Chic Filet drop there bigoted BS.

We can work on Voter apathy, too. I don't know yet what motivates the Icelandics, but we can use it here. I fear it's more discouragement that factors for us. We could look to Iceland for encouragement.

Don't know what you mean "it's useless for this sort of thing." The internet is useful for all sorts of things, so would Icelandic turnout!

Let's get out our inner Iceland! Always strive for progress.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 2 years ago

The first step is a petition, and get online signatures.

Sorry, first step is to overcome group apathy, nationwide.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (1377) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

I tried "Online Petition" toilet paper once... ONCE! Paper ballots and paper TP, from now on.

Apathy, like terror, intoxicants, and people who vote Regressive will always be with us. We have to leap frog the obstructionists and go straight for Iceland! 46 days and counting to get started.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 2 years ago

No wonder I hate rice.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

So far they've only found it in US rice.

To that end it seems to all about the use of arsenic in chicken "farming" and other industrial uses.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 2 years ago

Interesting conversation with DKA about the possibilities though. We have tracts of grazing land contaminated with cyanide. I wonder if the rice would help to remove that nasty from the soil.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Rice is a VERY water intensive crop, so even if it would be effective with cyanide, it's unlikely to be practical in Oz.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 2 years ago

It's not dry everywhere in OZ, shooz. Here in the Great Divide on the east coast, we have plenty of water. Rainfall in Tully is enormous. And the Ord irrigation project in the east Kimberley has so much water they channel it through open canals, to grow melons and cotton.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Well, I guess the most important question is whether of not the properties of cyanide are close enough to arsenic to allow the rice to work.

Perhaps another plant or microbe would work, if rice doesn't.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 2 years ago

I'd have to put that to someone with a lot more nouse than I can currently muster.

I believe there is work being done on microbial oil-munchers, to clean up spills and such.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (22338) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I think it could be done if you worked a section at a time - overlapping sections as you moved along to address bleed back ( osmosis ) - put up barriers like a hockey rink - flood the area to proper depth - grow rice - rinse repeat. Probably be the least expensive ( labor and dollar ) to recover toxic soil/land.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 2 years ago

Most of the land in question runs beef cattle. Old gold prospecting areas. The Mary river runs all year, and the reason why the gov didn't dam it was because of the toxicity of the underlaying clay barrier.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (22338) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Well now - how handy when you think about it - if you dammed and only flooded a little area of land at a time - moving back from the dam as land was recovered and slowly flooding more area. ???

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 2 years ago

It would work in some places.

The Mary Valley is one of the hilliest places I've ever seen in Australia. There's even a place called Long Flat, because the rest of the valley is so up and down.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (22338) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

The cyanide poisoning - due to mining?

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 2 years ago

Yes. I believe the Yukon had a similar issue. Miners are still using cyanide to separate gold from other minerals. Waste water containing cyanide is simply "settled out", meaning evaporated off, and the tailings trucked out to......where-ever they take tailings, I guess.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (22338) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I don't know - as long as it is not eaten - couldn't it be used to clean contaminated soil?

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 2 years ago

Hmmm, yes, but what to do with the rice, now that it's contaminated and concentrated in the grain?

Ferment it and burn the fuel, would be one answer. Then it's just released into the atmosphere. Not sure where it goes from there.

Back into the rivers and oceans, I guess.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (22338) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Ferment and distill ? But still would have a problem with the organic waste. Unless that could be processed as well to remove the toxin. Then if the organic residue is clean it could go to composting or something.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 2 years ago

Without looking it up, I think arsenic is a heavy chemical. Could settle it out with finings (crushed eggshell is the best), after fermentation, and use that in concrete, like they do with fly ash from smoke stacks.

There are options. Always.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (22338) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I think the best would be to filter it out and sequester it. As to use it in a building material is to expose it to contact through touch and material degradation.

Then the next possible step as science technology advances would be to change it's molecular structure.