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Forum Post: Are They Really Going To Take Us To War In Iran And North Korea?

Posted 11 years ago on April 10, 2013, 2:19 a.m. EST by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN
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[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 11 years ago

They are unlikely to be land wars but wars are more general than land wars.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

Illegal invasions of sovereign nations are not wars.

The neo-con agenda also includes reducing the world population by two-thirds. Are you all just gonna sit and wait for the release of bio-warfare on yourselves? The H5N1 virus has been modified to become as lethal as the black plague.

Don't be thinking they wouldn't do it to Americans. It's the southern hemisphere the oligarchs want to save for their own playground.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 11 years ago

"It's the southern hemisphere the oligarchs want to save for their own playground."

You hope!

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

Name one southern hemisphere nation that is aiming nuclear ordnance to the north. The equator is a natural barrier to nuclear fallout in the north, reaching the south.

This is not wishful thinking, JR.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 11 years ago

I'd like to see the info that supports the plan to eliminate 2/3rds of the earth's population.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

There's plenty out there.

If you're keen to look.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 11 years ago

If there was an actual conspiracy, could it ever be filtered out of the enormous amount of baseless conspiracy theory that has flooded the internet. I won't attempt that herculean task.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

Yes, I had a quick look.

Lots of mud in the water, for sure.

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 11 years ago

Does the particular label really matter? Maybe invasions are better labels.

The world population being reduced by two-thirds does not require neo-con's to carry out their agenda. It is only a matter of time that some deadly flu strains mutate to overcome the person-to-person barrier effectively. It does not have to be the H5N1 virus.

With global air travel, deadly viral infections will travel at jet speeds (a little bit subsonic) worldwide, including to the oligarchs' playground in the southern hemisphere.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

It would have happened already, grapes.

Would it not? Inter-continental travel is decreasing, along with disposable income and the middle class.

And the label would matter a helluvalot, if we actually had an international war crimes tribunal that had some cojones, rather than deep pockets for the mega-corps to drop bribes into.

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 11 years ago

Yes, deadly flu strains have happened before, such as the flu of 1918. Something similar will happen again.

I strongly disagree that intercontinental travel is decreasing. What will all of those new airplanes being bought be used for? Pandemics can take hold if the coupling coefficient modeling contagion is sufficiently high. There will be more worldwide travel leading to higher probability of pandemics occurring. Disposable income and the middle class are increasing in China and India, for example -- and they are two of the highest population countries in the world.

The U.S. does not submit to the International Criminal Court because very absurdly speaking the U.S. IS larger than the world (psychologically at least).

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

You're right about China and India's middle-class. They are the backbone of tourism in Australia now. Prices for accommodation in peak periods are becoming exclusively for the mega-rich, to the detriment of nationals here.

On the ICC, that is absurd. Nobody should be above justice, particularly considering the jingoist national ism of Pride, Justice, and the American Way. Perhaps the three words are mutually exclusive.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 11 years ago

They are NOT mutually exclusive -- however, we had better carefully examine what they translate to in the real world and sweep away all of the garbage that have accumulated around them through apathy.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

Yes, I think after the Iraq "evidence", American allies will be thinking twice about US foreign policy, as well as jingoist nationalism that doesn't reflect accurately in actual language reality. The rest of us are still talking English.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 11 years ago

We in the U.S. have a tendency to speak Lobbyist English which underlies much of our inability of having real problems solved. When emotions are catered to, reason retreats into an abyss so the louder we yell, the less we hear and let alone listen or understand.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

Advertising has our youth mesmerised as well.

Most are rabid junkies when it comes to mass consumerism and not hearing the words of wisdom from their parents and elders.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 11 years ago

It is such a waste of our youths for them to bow at the false god of mass consumerism and chase after 'name' brands. The parents and elders do not always utter the words of wisdom but at the very least they utter the words of experience and must be taken seriously by our youths.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

Every generation needs to make their own mistakes.

Trouble is, most of them will be deeply in debt, and suffering the side effects of obesity and diet choices before they wise up.

I read somewhere that there's a realisation that such a generation will be impossible to "untrain" to be more world-wise in their consumer choices.

Sounds like an "oh phukk" moment, even from the oligarchs.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 11 years ago

Yes, we must push for single-payer universal coverage for healthcare so that the costs of obesity and dietary choices will be stuck to the oligarchs through taxation and the reduction of tax expenditures.