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Forum Post: "Approved by the American Dental Association" is the Seal of Corporate Greed"

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 22, 2011, 11:51 p.m. EST by denturist (0)
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This is my fight against corporate greed that affects each and every one of us unable to afford needed dental work. We are in need of midlevel dental and oral health care providers that are independent; not subject to the American Dental Association policies. We need more community clinics that provide affordable dental care.

If corporate ADA would quit squeezing out competition it would free up more chairtime for children, restorative, cosmetic, and emergency dental procedures but instead, the American Dental Association lobbies federal and state legislators to disregard legislation that would regulate the denturist profession in many states that include Kentucky and Wyoming. The ADA spends money to persecute denturists.

The ADA lobbied for exclusion of language to expand the dental health aide therapists programs to states other than Alaska in the recent U.S. Senate Bill 1790. The American Dental Association, wasted money fighting Alaska and lost; trying to prevent dental health aide therapists from providing dental services to Natives of Alaska living in remote areas. The American Dental Association lobbies to suppress dental hygienists from having independent boards and practices.

The American Dental Associations total lobbying expenditures as of October for 2009 was $2,110,000.00 reported by opensecrets.org. The ADA’s self-serving political agenda is hurting consumers by suppressing qualified competitors that provide oral health services to those with disparities. The American Dental Association works against its vision and mission statement by suppressing competition that has been trained and educated in providing oral health care services to those that are unable to pay the high prices charged by dentist leaving Americans without needed dental care.

Many people do without needed dental care because of high prices charged by dentist and not being eligible for Medicaid, low income programs and not having dental healthcare insurance. Corporate ADA has the power and money to change the current dental care delivery system for the better if the American public would speak out against the American Dental Associations deceiving and pacifying public relations campaign for a better public image.

Gary W. Vollan L.D.

References:

http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?year=2009&lname=American+Dental+Assn&id=

http://apha.confex.com/apha/137am/webprogram/Session27637.html

http://www.wtrf.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=74832#comments

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[-] 1 points by NotYour99 (226) 12 years ago

I guess this is for me to respond to. I'm a dentist. I haven't been a member of the ADA for 12 to 13 years. However, I've seen my fair share of iatrogenic "dentistry" performed by labs trying to "be the dentist". And that's in a State that outlawed it. I had to send a poor, fixed income elderly patient to the oral surgeon TWICE for epulis removal because of a poorly fitting maxillary denture done by a self proclaimed denturist. Educational checks and balances need to be in place to protect the American public, ADA or no ADA.

[-] 1 points by Horror (48) from Columbus, OH 12 years ago

ADA also likes to lie about fluoride when people in much higher positions than them have proven it is useless to harmful.

[-] 1 points by NotYour99 (226) 12 years ago

Can't really classify it as useless when it IS one of the building blocks of the hard structures of your teeth. Anyone who claims that is simply not educated on the subject.

[-] 1 points by NotYour99 (226) 12 years ago

That is also a myth propagated by people who "don't want the man putting poison in the water". Flouride is of great benefit to the developing teeth of our children. I can provide ream after ream of patient charts from two locations 45 minutes apart where one has flouride and the other doesn't. The deficient site has WAY more pit and fissure cavities than the other, with every other variable remaining constant.

[-] 1 points by Horror (48) from Columbus, OH 12 years ago

Yeah anyways, they have actually REMOVED fluoride from a few cities recently and many places before that. So obviously the pseudoscience behind it is being proven fraudulent.

[-] 1 points by NotYour99 (226) 12 years ago

No science about it has changed at all. It all has to do with who votes. The older voters get no benefit from it and in many regions are the primary voters. To them that's just one less thing they should have to pay taxes for. But who gets hurt is the children that don't get a vote. Those two sites I was talking about, one s a state Capitol, the other is a resort/retirement town. Guess which one is without Fl? Not too hard to figure out. So those votes never have to do with science. When they fail, it's more about demographics, misinformation, and greed.

[-] 1 points by Horror (48) from Columbus, OH 12 years ago

So you can compete against a nobel peace prize winning scientists (before they handed them out to mass murderers)? Can you explain why they admitted it bad for children under 5 and were told its not allowed to be added to bottled water for babies? Its called fluorosis. I also dont like people with half my intelligence adding anything to anything because most people are just idiots who had mommy pay for a diploma as opposed to wanting to be intelligent.

[-] 1 points by NotYour99 (226) 12 years ago

And it's not "bad" for children under five. That's just out and out untruth. For a child that is getting zero Fl in their water or otherwise, they need to take actual Fl pills to get what is needed for proper development. Don't know who "they" are, but it was either a biased piece or you didn't really read it well.

[-] 1 points by NotYour99 (226) 12 years ago

There is an acceptable ppm of Fl just like numerous other substances. Yes, an excess of Fl is called fluorosis, but that doesn't happen with normal, municipal water supply levels. Most children that get to drink fluoridated water don't need additional Fl and THATs why it's not recommended. Besides all of that, fluorosis isn't a true health concern. Most cases are simply discoloring of the teeth. Only the most severe cases where usually a child was raised on well water with an extremely high level of natural fluoride, is there any actual defect of the teeth because of it. You've listened to what you've wanted to listen to and believed it. I live it everyday and can put my hands on thousands and thousands of charts that support what I am saying here.

[-] 1 points by Horror (48) from Columbus, OH 12 years ago

I prefer to listen to only the proven scholars in the end. I understand the average person who screws up everyones burger orders can pay for a degree. I tend to actually do this thing called research, then you analyze the data gathered and come to a conclusion. The smarter and more competent someone is the higher rank they get in credibility. I understand that only 2% of the population could get it 100% right, so trusting one persons test just isnt how reality works for me. Its a hard reality for me to live in cause I know when I go to a doc, the chances are that 2% (or the even smaller portion of that whom can think for themselves) are likley not gonna be who is sticking their hands in my body.

[-] 1 points by NotYour99 (226) 12 years ago

You either haven't done your research on this topic, or your research consists only of YouTube videos made by kooks. With each additional post you show more and more that you aren't even close to published fact. And from the very sources you are trying to quote.

[-] 1 points by Horror (48) from Columbus, OH 12 years ago

Like he says CDC admitted the 5 and under. WHy are people insistent on poisioning the children? Of course they wont admit this in large media stories because they dont want people to get mad they are being poisoned. Are these the same bloodlines who used to eat babies? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Gp3wJjzrrhE#!

[-] 1 points by NotYour99 (226) 12 years ago

But see, you are just spouting lies. Here is a quote off of the CDC website......For 65 years, community water fluoridation has been a safe and healthy way to effectively prevent tooth decay. CDC has recognized water fluoridation as one of 10 great public health achievements of the 20th century. You have no facts. You talk poorly about the education of others, but you prove yourself to be 100% ignorant.

[-] 1 points by Horror (48) from Columbus, OH 12 years ago

The average denist is an expert on fluoride like the average Mc DOnalds worker is an expert on beef. Till you can even at least make up some awards you have won or some super high GPA you got, I will take your word as I do other average people, with a grain of salt. http://www.naturalnews.com/fluoride.html Too bad, it was in a statement by the govt that fluoride for 5 and unders destroys their teeth. They might not want to put it where the average sheep they are poisoning can see it unless they want a law suit, but it was supposed to be removed from bottled baby water. Fluoride has NO benefits ingesting it, it MIGHT have some topical use but is a medication and poison only in the water and food (and yes its added to foods), personally my teeth are doing fine without it. Wouldnt that be nice if we could sue all the quack dentists into the welfare housing that people who poision children belong in? (actually that would be prison). Seriously , when you use the word kook, I think of people like you who will poison people to make a dollar and worship science, even tho science is the opposite of blind worship. In fact that sounds like a criminal, not a kook! SO you say now you are a criminal? Yes there are idiots out there who have no idea what they say and make up "theories" but YOU are one of them, with your theory of how ingesting a medication like fluoride is good for your teeth which it doesnt really even touch! Im sure YOU would take a medication that damages your brain if someone told you it would help your teeth. You dont respect knowledge, so you have no use for your brain. Let us who can think for ourselves decide what needs to be added to our own water. I suggest cyanide be added to YOUR water to help improve your brain function, how is that? Can we do that?

[-] 0 points by OregonRuts (61) 12 years ago

So it's not ok for dentists to control access to dental care but it is ok for union machinists to control access to machinist labor?

Anyone ever see the movie Dr Strangelove?

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