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Forum Post: Anyone with internet savvy: Need help with new group

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 3, 2011, 1:32 p.m. EST by Teacher (469)
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There seems to be some agreement that OWS supporters, not the movement itself, should take it upon themselves to put out a focused, disciplined message about corruption in our democracy and electoral reform.

Anyone who wants to help with this please send me a private message. We will need some kind of web presence to coordinate our actions, craft messages, and make plans.

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[-] 1 points by blocade (81) 12 years ago

We know what the problem is, let us fix it and move forward together.

When you look at a republican or democrat, congress or FDA official, Judges and Justice Department you see criminals.

Our corruption dates back decades to when those who in trying to preserve slavery had to find new ways to preserve it and so created an advanced form of slavery.

only two components were required -- the illusion of freedom and choice and the taking away of the freedom to live off the land.

How else would you get a person to submit themselves to mind numbing or degrading work unless you oppress them into it.

our current system is rooted in corruption and every attempt in preserving it involves manipulating human thought and turning people against one another.

In America the population has been transformed in two major voting groups but they only have one choice.

They had been distracted up until now with television and American culture which prospered through the oppression of other nations.

Americans allowed themselves to be fooled into using their military and economic dominance to seize resources of other nations and create expanding markets for American profiteers.

Now that technology, competition and conscience have evolved Americans themselves are realizing that they cannot sustain themselves under their current system of government.

Our government officials have allowed private profits and personal benefits to influence decisions that affect the health and well-being of people all over the planet, not just in America... how much longer will we allow them to rule over us??

Occupy Washington and demand that all government officials resign their posts.

We will setup new online elections with a verification system that will allow us to see our votes after we cast them, put our new officials in office and work toward rebuilding our country and our world.

http://wesower.org

[-] 0 points by smartguy (180) 12 years ago

You mean 'our republic'?

[-] 1 points by Teacher (469) 12 years ago

I always get nailed by that one. Yes, it is a democratic republic. Those two words don't really mean the same thing but they are often interchanged in common speech. My bad.

[-] 0 points by smartguy (180) 12 years ago

No, it's not a democratic republic...

[-] 1 points by Teacher (469) 12 years ago

It is. A republic where the representatives are selected through a democratic process. As opposed to the Roman Senate, which was a republican assembly but without any democratic election process. In effect it was a type of oligrachy controlled by the rich. What does that remind me of?

[-] 0 points by smartguy (180) 12 years ago

What we have is a representative constitutional republic, there's a huge different and I don't understand why people fail to grasp this.

Democracy isn't a synonym of the term 'universal suffrage'.

[-] 1 points by Teacher (469) 12 years ago

In greek it means "rule by the people." It originally meant that every issue in Athens was put to vote by a council of elders drawn at random and a general assembly made up of the first few thousand to show up that day.

In modern times the meaning has drifted, as the meaning of words always do, to embody the act of voting itself. We vote, that makes it democractic in the newer sense, we have representative that actually run the affairs of state that makes it a republic.

From dictionary.com

government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.

2. a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies.

3. a state of society characterized by formal equality of rights and privileges.

Can we call this settled and argue about something besides semantics?