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Forum Post: Another Slimy Wall Street Financial Firm in action:

Posted 2 years ago on March 28, 2012, 1:07 p.m. EST by Gillian (1842)
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I just received a call from JOHN THOMAS FINANCIAL ( 2122272031) asking for my ex husband. I didn't recognize the name he asked for and told him that he had the wrong number. The guy became really hyper aggitated and began an arrogant and facetious rant about being sorry and then began reciting my phone number, company name, ex's name, and I said, yeah? So then he says that he needs to talk to my ex right away. I asked if he was expecting his call and he said, ' Oh yes but I've lost his cell phone, could you please tell me what it is?" I said, well , if he's expecting your call,, then I'm sure he'll contact you. Then he goes on to tell me that he's working some financing for my ex and needs some information immediately. I asked financing for what? he then goes on to tell me that it's stuff for his portfolio. Well, I laughed because first of all, he's illegally divulging personal information about my ex to someone that he doesn't even know AND because my my ex has no portfolio. I made the comment, ' wow, you guys will stop at nothing to make a sale' and the creep blew up at me and screamed into the phone the most childish stupid response. He said, ' Stupid bitch, you go to hell and listen here, I make 5 times what you do so don't ever talk to me that way, you f'n loser'. Yep, that's what he said, verbatim.

So, I did a little research on this company and came up with this link for starters: ( read the reviews of the employees..how pathetic) http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/John-Thomas-Financial-Reviews-E240581.htm

Turns out that I earn more than the creep who called me.

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[-] 2 points by RayLansing (99) 2 years ago

You could almost imagine his bloodshot eyes and foaming mouth on that comment right? Hilarious.

I agree with Xenu, would be comedy gold had you recorded that. As for slimy Wall Street firms... sadly no shortage of those these days.

[-] 1 points by Gillian (1842) 2 years ago

Yeah. In reality,the guy really over reacted relative to my very calm tone. I just said what I did very matter-of-fact-ly. I am glad that he's not my honey coming through the door this evening. What really disturbs me though is that this guy is of the mindset that just because he ( believes) earns more than someone else that he has the right to lie, cheat and steal from anyone and likewise, anyone earning less than him has no right to question his motives at all.

[-] 1 points by RayLansing (99) 2 years ago

Seeing how this comment: ' wow, you guys will stop at nothing to make a sale' made him blow up. He must have not been meeting his margin or some similar reason. Either way, this adds to the entertainment value of this event.

[-] 1 points by GrandOlParty (10) from Mansfield Township, NJ 2 years ago

What a douche. He was probably pissed because he got relegated to doing the offices bitch work

[-] 1 points by badreadnaught (55) 2 years ago

I've heard other stories like yours concerning tactics used by brokers and such. Where do they get the nerve? Was it Jerry Seinfeld who did a bit about telling the salesperson he'd interupted his dinner and if he could just have the salesperson's home phone number he'd call him later on in the evening? I thought that was both funny and clever.

[-] 1 points by Gillian (1842) 2 years ago

hahahha I like that. Although I doubt this type of shyster would fall for that one. This guy had every tactic up his sleeve and wasn't about to give up that easily. One lie after another without a care in the world. they are corporate psychopaths.

[-] 1 points by badreadnaught (55) 2 years ago

That jerk you wrote of probably watches Seinfeld too, so yea, he'd never go for it. Too bad because it would be a bit of mischievous fun to say that. Even if he really did make 5 times what you do, how does that give him the right to speak to a person in that way? Is there someone or some agency you might be able to report that incident to - file a complaint?

[-] 1 points by Gillian (1842) 2 years ago

Yes, I can file a complaint with the FTC. I wish I could remember the guy's name even though it's probably fake. I don't need his name to file a complaint though.
You know who else uses this same type of marketing tactic? The guys who call for the state police. They will call up here, rude and loud as hell and ask for my ex by his first name as if they are old buddies. When I let them know that if they were really friends of my ex that they would not need me to provide his cell, they get so angry and curse and hang up on me. I'm sure their job is really stressful because they get cursed at all day but hey, what do they expect? If you accept a job as a telemarketer then you get what you signed up for!

[-] 1 points by badreadnaught (55) 2 years ago

OMG! I got those same calls for YEARS! State Police Fraternal Organization, or some such thingy. I came to find out that the organization hires a company to solicit donation and commissions are paid to the sales people. That seems disgraceful. Anyway, they would call and leave messages on my answering machine for weeks on end. I finally happen to be home one evening when they called - like I said they'd been calling for a long time - and I was just sooo ticked off I really let the guy have it after I got him to say that he wasn't with the FOP, but worked for the company they'd hired. Seems like we can't get away from being sold something at all hours of the day and night, you know?

[-] 1 points by Gillian (1842) 2 years ago

They are what they and it's the nature of a telemarketer to make cold calls. But, when they pretend to know me or someone I know personally, then I get really angry. There should be a limit to their tactics. Last year I had a really horrible thing happen where a hacker had stolen emails from our church and then sent out emails suggesting that we could all earn extra money working at home doing something??? I can't remember exactly. But anyway, the email looked so genuine, using our names, etc.. and when I checked out the website, it looked SO genuine, even including a news report from my local news station ( which turned out to be bogus). I ended up getting the FBI involved because they not only stole money from bank account simply by my opening up their website, but they also sold all my info to other shysters who would call me nonstop several times a day...up to 30 calls a day. For months, I was so stressed out from those calls and then finally, I decided that instead of having a stroke, I was going to play games with them so I would pretend to be a mentally challenged woman who lived in some super rural, economically deprived area. I changed my accent, my rhetoric and everything. When they would call, I would act completely sweet, naive and totally ignorant and I would tape these calls as well for the FBI to hear. At first, I would answer, lead them on like I was going to fall for their scam and I would tell them to hold on while I got my pa to talk to them, set the phone down, go about my business and make them sit there waiting and additionally, as long as I didn't hang up, their line was tied up and they could not make other calls..hahahha which gets them into trouble at their job. :D I know because one time I heard the guy getting chewed up by his manager for spending too much time on the phone with me. The guy would say, " I've almost go her to buy, so I need to hold on". Then, another time ( and I swear it took everything for me not to burst out laughing), I pretended that I had an emergency and that I had to go and asked him to call me back in 10 mins. He did and I told him that my dog Rex had killed a squirrel. The guy was like, ' oh, I'm so sorry' and I said, " Welp, you gotta get it while the gettins good because you never know when you might not have any dinner"..hahahha The man was like, ' so you eat squirrel?"..hahahha I told him to tell me more about how I could get rich and while he was talking away, I started picking my banjo. hahahha When he got into the discussion about solar power I really gave this guy a workout and he spent a good twenty minutes trying to educate me on how he was going to put the sun into my house...hahahha This was so funny that I was dying trying to hold back my laughter. But, then I got super angry because the man just gave up and started telling me where to look in my house for my "pa's" debit or credit card and he would also talk to me like he was talking to child. He believed I was sort mentally challenged, you know? So, he's like, ' Ok, sweetie, now tell me about your house, where does your pa keep his wallet, what about his car or truck. I was getting so disgusted and pissed and I could have literally choked this guy. Imagine if I had really been someone who was mentally challenged or even just a normal kid? That's when I got the recordings and the FBI on the case. The FBI takes a bit of pestering as well. You really have to force them to listen to you otherwise, they are not interested.

[-] 1 points by badreadnaught (55) 2 years ago

That's quite a story. Funny and yet so horrible too. Like you said, where do they get the absolute NERVE wtih some of this stuff they do. How do these people sleep at night? If they're pulling this stuff with you they're pulling it on others and, let's face it, not everyone is so saavy. Most states have consumer protection agencies and A.G.'s offices that investigate these sorts of things, right? You got the FBI involved? Goodness! Well that must have seemed somewhat overwhelming, but still made you feel kind of like, "there screwing with the wrong person here!" Kind of empowering, too? It's such a shame that you had to go through that whole rigamaroll over that junk. I guess I don't have much to gripe about compared to all you had to go through. You'd think that with all of the high tech apps and so forth that we all have today that someone could come up with a way to stop this sort of thing right in it's tracks. You know, if a person got a call like the one's you've talked about, while you were talking with the salesparson you could hit an app that got the call monitored and would rein in these creeps, because they'd already know about the possibility of their getting into trouble as soon as they started pulling those stunts. maybe you and I could invent it. Haha

[-] 1 points by Gillian (1842) 2 years ago

Oh, I meant to tell you too that anytime someone hacks your email, you should file a report with the FBI. Hacking is a federal offense. They have a special dept that handles these cases.

[-] 1 points by Gillian (1842) 2 years ago

Actually, the FBI did give me a code to use on my phone when they call in order to block them. But now I can't remember what that code is and I've got to go to another forum to search for it so that I can share that with you. Anytime someone harasses you and or steals your money OR is misrepresenting themselves, you can/should file a report with the FBI. You can do that online and you can keep that file updated and contact them by phone if necessary. It really didn't make me feel good or empowered to go to the FBI. I mean these creeps get away with this crap all the time and it's difficult for the FBI to catch them because they are working out of some boiler room in an Asian country a lot of the time. But when the creep tried to take advantage of a mentally challenged person or a child, I got so pissed that I really could have clobbered him or worse. The elderly are at risk too. It's horrible.

[-] 1 points by badreadnaught (55) 2 years ago

In my state there was a big problem with contractors taking advantage of the elderly, especially after a big storm would pass through. Contractors are now required to be registered and and there's a reporting agency just for when contractors try to overcharge homeowners. I've heard stories of people paying literally thousands of dollars just to have their electric service restored by resetting a main breaker. I didn't know anything about that online site you talked about. That's the first I've heard of it. If you do happen to get that information I'd really appreciate having it. Your thread is very informative. Thanks!

[-] 2 points by Gillian (1842) 2 years ago

I live in hurricane country so I know exactly what you're talking about in regards to gouging contractors. It's a sad fact that America is a country that was built on the backs of the less fortunate, the deprived, the enslaved, the desperate, the homeless, the sick, the dependent and the less educated.There are very few entrepreneurs that became successful by working hard while respecting and valuing their employees and their country. If you go back and study the mentality of Americans during the goldrush, you will find that it was the epitome of the dog eat dog mentality and became one of the most violent places in America. The wealthiest got there by capitalizing on some easy path of less resistance whether it's taking advantage of the disadvantaged or by capitalizing on the sins of humans.
Here's the website that will explain the company that hacks and steals ..here are thousands of us who were taken advantage of ( I can't locate the info with the code to use but I know it had a * button in it. I think I was just supposed to hit the star button and hold it down for 3 seconds.
Check this out: http://reviewopedia.com/workathome/home-cash-flow-solution-reviews-legit-or-scam/ The link above will not take you their site...and please, whatever you do, DO NOT GO TO THEIR WEBSITE. Simply by visiting their site, you can be hacked and well, just read the reviews at the bottom of the page I sent you. The only thing honest about them is their name. It's a cashflow system alright...they take your money and then they sell your personal info to other scamming companies around the world and make millions in passive income by doing so...sort of like multi-level marketing. There are no products or services actually involved..it's more about just getting kickbacks for providing customers or by people clicking on their websites.

[-] 2 points by badreadnaught (55) 2 years ago

OMG! That's awful! Those poor people. Thanks for that info and link. I did like you said, I didn't go to the comapny's website. I only read the page and reviews. Speaking of capializing on the disadvantaged and your living in hurricane country, I remember all of the horror storied about Hurricane Katrina's aftermath and clean-up in Louisiana ans Mississippi. The prices The Home Depot and Lowe's and I'm sure others charged for material like plywood sheeting was just horrible. Then the insurance companies refused to pay for the damaged home because of the levee's breecing/collapsing and all that came with that. Insurers denied claims on homeowners policies because the damage was classified as flood damage and not hurricane damage. There are some times when I could understand doing some bad things to those claims agents, adjusters, and the rest of them. How awful. Like I keep saying, how can those people live with themselves? What is wrong with people? No hurricane, no collapes of the levee, no flooding. How dumb do they think people are? They can't connect a few dots?

[-] 1 points by Gillian (1842) 2 years ago

If you ever get an email from a friend that looks legit but is encouraging you to click on a link about earning extra money...DON"T. Even if you check the properties of the email, it really IS their email that has been hijacked. It's so frustrating. I don't want to answer my phone anymore, don't want to open emails anymore. And they get savvier and savvier every day. What kind of world is this? Katrina was horrible, broke my heart and I cried for two days solid. I was one of the volunteers for the animal rescue and believe me , it took everything I had to keep it together and not fall apart. I had ovarian cancer at that time too and I even though the entire ordeal was stressful, it really helped me to not focus on being sick. I sort of in a round about way, found healing in Katrina as crazy as that sounds.

[-] 1 points by badreadnaught (55) 2 years ago

I won't open those sorts of emails. Thanks for the tip. I'm a dog lover, so glad to hear you were involed in rescuing animals. Sometimes difficult, I'm sure but the rewards would be very great to be sure. I've never done anything like that. My dog was adopted from a shelter though. She's a collie mix. Very head strong, yet very affectionate and loyal. Cancer is such a terrible thing You're well again, I hope. That must be something awful to have to have had and go through. What was the movie where William Hurt played a doctor (oncologist?) who developed an oral cancer? That was a really interesting film. It's been years since I last saw it. A through the looking glass sort of plotline. Your healing by focusing on Katrina cleanup and animal rescue sounds like a wonderful story and it's good in that you were helped in performing acts of kindness. That's heartwarming. My mom had oral cancer and had radical head and neck surgery that made her a swallowing cripple. She had to get all nutrion through a j-peg tube. They tried an n-g tube but she didn't tolerate it well. She survived five years past the surgery and radiation. No chemo. It was as awful as anyone could imagine, and she fought like the dickens.

[-] 1 points by Gillian (1842) 2 years ago

If you love dogs than you're a mighty good soul for this earth. :D Wish you lived next door to me! I dedicate probably too much of my life and money to rescues but I don't mind. It's the only life I have really besides my other job. I've got two rescues right now that were in pretty bad shape when I got them...my girl is a GSD/shepherd and she was 23 lbs, most of her teeth kicked out and some other horrible things and my boy is a beagle who was beaten so badly that he's paralyzed on one side of his face. I love them both dearly and although it takes a lot of patience and dedication, I really don't seem to mind. We are very down to earth, relaxed and I don't pressure them to behave any certain way. Those tv dog trainers are a bunch of power hungry idiots imo. The whole alpha human dog role is totally unnecessary if people would just chill out and relate to their dogs. I've never had a bad dog. But I can sure think of a lot of bad humans!
I'm sorry to hear about your mom. Gosh, that's a terrible terrible way to suffer and I know it really took a toll on your heart and soul. It's amazing what we can endure isn't it? Well, you made my day. It's comforting to know that there is someone out there who had such a big heart. Take Care of yourself and your girl.

[-] 1 points by badreadnaught (55) 2 years ago

Will do and like the bumper sticker says, "Who Rescued Who?"

[-] 1 points by XenuLives (1645) from Charlotte, NC 2 years ago

That would have been PRICELESS if you recorded that! Wow, greed really does screw with people.

Its almost as if greed should be treated by CDC. Its a pandemic that is slowly destroying out society like a cancer...

[-] 1 points by Gillian (1842) 2 years ago

I wished so much that I could have recorded it It's not the first time that they have called and pretended to be already working with my ex. But, it's been a couple of months. Did you read that post about the boiler room atmosphere in the link I posted? It's certainly not glamorous unless you're one of the top guns in the 99 percent. I kept wondering why anyone would want to work on Wall street. You're right, there can only be one reason....insatiable and incurable greed.