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Forum Post: Anarchism, Libertarian Socialism & Anarcho-Syndicalism (Noam Chomsky)

Posted 1 year ago on April 29, 2012, 4:23 p.m. EST by struggleforfreedom80 (6276)
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[-] 2 points by PeterKropotkin (1050) from Oakland, CA 1 year ago

Good post

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6276) 1 year ago

Thanks :)

[-] 1 points by PeterKropotkin (1050) from Oakland, CA 1 year ago

Its unfortunate that posts like this will get next to no disscussion while posts about some irrelevant celebrity running his mouth about Obama gets over a hundred comments.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6276) 1 year ago

We just have to keep on writing, posting, convincing, and building a growing solidaric Occupy Movement. A sustainable, egalitarian, free, democratic society is what must established at some point. Our ideas will prevail sooner or later:)

solidarity struggleforfreedom

..love your nick btw :)

[-] 1 points by PeterKropotkin (1050) from Oakland, CA 1 year ago

Thanks for the link.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6276) 1 year ago

No problem. Just some of my thoughts that I wanted to share. Hope you like them:)

yours s sff

[-] 1 points by francismjenkins (3713) 1 year ago

I said this in another thread, but I think at some point a peaceful protest movement must engage with the political system, if it hopes to accomplish anything. Considering how eager the government seems to be to erode our rights, we may not have the luxury of trying to change society from the ground up (over the course of several decades), without achieving some degree of political reform.

[-] 1 points by PeterKropotkin (1050) from Oakland, CA 1 year ago

Check out what chomsky says about it.

[-] 1 points by francismjenkins (3713) 1 year ago

I always appreciate Chomsky, and I would count myself as an anarchist (with a deep appreciation for its intellectual tradition), but Chomsky doesn't get at the issue I'm talking about here, which is what I perceive as a need to achieve some degree of political reform (which I think requires some amount of engagement with the political process). It should be noted that endorsing political reform does not imply an endorsement of autocratic governance, but rather it's merely an acknowledgement of the fact that failure to do so at this critical moment, could derail our hopes for deeper change in the future.

To spread a message we need ways to transmit our message, so we have to protect the freedoms and resources we have now (like the internet). In a sense, we need to push back (to give ourselves breathing room). We should want some political reforms (for instance campaign finance reform, even if it requires a Constitutional amendment, the right to hold recall elections of not only state and local officials, but members of congress, and Americans in every state deserve this right, reforms aimed at eliminating the influence of lobbyists, financial reforms, laws that facilitate the formation of worker owned enterprises, rolling back laws like the Patriot Act, our growing Homeland Security infrastructure, etc.). And at the moment (assuming we desire a peaceful movement, which I think we all do), fighting against these things requires aligning with political candidates.

It doesn't necessarily have to be OWS that does this, but I think there should be more recognition within our extended community regarding the need to do this.

[-] 1 points by PeterKropotkin (1050) from Oakland, CA 1 year ago

Yeah I agree with you.

[-] 1 points by PeterKropotkin (1050) from Oakland, CA 1 year ago

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