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Forum Post: An End to Fracking?

Posted 6 years ago on March 12, 2013, 11:18 a.m. EST by shoozTroll (17632)
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At this point the reduction in risk, looks to be worth further development.

I read about this some years ago and wondered what happened to research on it's utilization.

Japan has done it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21752441

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[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

You must have missed this one.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/fracking-a-new-documentary-pt-i/

Rivers bubbling with it.

[-] 1 points by analystwanabe99 (153) 6 years ago

thanks for the links. good stuff

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 6 years ago

"Sitting next to the river, where is this runoff going to go?" he said.


That is a bunch of clown ass shyte.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Petulant, vindictive, environmentally damaging, ass clown shyte.

They won't do anything here, but Canada isn't happy about this either and he's pissed at them too.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 6 years ago

He is a child.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

A very rich old/child, with a private monopoly on the busiest commercial border crossing in the World. For now.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 6 years ago

They might want to change that.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

They're going to. That's the source of his petulance.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 6 years ago

Don't lose this thread. I have to run.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

I'll give another comment, next time I see you around....:)

[-] 1 points by analystwanabe99 (153) 6 years ago

Hey why don't they through a tarp over it??? Damn, what I gotta do, run the country?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Matty's not real happy with the State about now. That's his bridge in the background. Busiest commercial border crossing in the World.

The voters wouldn't let him build a new one.

[-] 1 points by analystwanabe99 (153) 6 years ago

If the guy that owns the land is a billionaire, and he is concerned about the situation,(that's what the article said) why in hell did he let them store it there? Ya think there is some doe involved and he is just saying he is concerned to keep the heat off him?? Baffle them with BS and blame it on the other guy, string em along till the river melts and we can get it the hell down stream. Its all so obvious. Its a situation that has been played out over and over again all across this nation by greedy bast rds who are all trying to make more doe.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Matty's a vengeful sort, that's often in league with the brothers Koch.

[-] 1 points by analystwanabe99 (153) 6 years ago

That explains a lot. The Koch boys have been screwing Wichita labor force for years. They live on their own personal golf course out east and their help live in a mansion with a pool on the property. The Koch's live in, what looks like the helps house. Looks like a 1 story 3000 sq. ft. home but probably has a 10 story building underground. LOL!!!

[-] 1 points by analystwanabe99 (153) 6 years ago

I know a doctor that has been a friend for years. He took me out to a plot of land in the middle of nowhere where he and his brothers who are also doctors have built homes as a hideaway when the shit hits the fan. The extreme gap is very visible to those with the doe, and they are preparing to weather the storm.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

You should ask them why they think they need such a thing and where they get their information on the subject.

[-] 1 points by analystwanabe99 (153) 6 years ago

Its on about 20 acers and a sandpit lake feed by springs. If I asked him he would say its for retirement but I know him and this type of place is not him. He is a people person very verbally active and that kind of seclusion is not his cup of tea. I'm a deer hunter and fisherman and I'm not sure I could live in that kind of seclusion for long without bustin out for the city.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 6 years ago

What is the issue between this guy and Canada?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Canada is going to pay the lions share for building a new bridge, leaving him out of the profit picture.

So yeah, dumping oil coke on his property near the old bridge, is just plain vindictive.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 6 years ago

Ahhh. OIC.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

He's an expensive old fart too.

The State has had to sue him, to get him to make promised improvements to the Ambassador Bridge approach ramps.

[-] 1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 6 years ago

couldn't help but notice that it was a state sponsored project. so much for private industry being the best way to make progress.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Strange isn't it?

And they say that Japan is very conservative and has many successful, profitable industries and they're not bitching about it. Makes you wonder what shorted out our conservatives.

[-] 2 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 6 years ago

it is strange. :-)

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[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

That was a great rant!!

Somebody down voted you!

All I can do is give you one back.

Back in the day it was competition for GM's Frigidaire.

[-] 2 points by analystwanabe99 (153) 6 years ago

I used to repair air conditioners and the Frigidaire was my favorite brand because it was like working a Chevrolet, any and all parts were interchangeable and cheap to get. It was designed to last and made well. When I went to work on GEs stuff I was stuck only buying GE parts as they would design a capacitor that was just enough out of the range for standard replacement so you had to buy their crap and of course at 3 times the price. No, it didnt hurt me but it hurt my customers when they got the bill. All I could tell them was not buy GE equipment again. GE is still doing it today!! Don't you just love being bent over a stump by the big corporations? NOT!!

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

LOL GE They bring good things to life.....Or death.

As long as it's profitable.

http://www.propublica.org/article/burn-the-data-did-a-company-try-to-hide-risks-of-ges-mri-dye

And they can hide the death parts.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Planned obsolescence and proprietary parts and or technology.

It's what they all do these days.

You can still come across the occasional Frigidaire in someones basement keeping things cool for all those years.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33688) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Disposable society promoted by business for gr8er sales - has brought us to having a disposable world - problem being - we only have one world. Crazy assholes.

[-] 1 points by analystwanabe99 (153) 6 years ago

Yea, you know that's the reason we have so many old cell phones in peoples draws. You change plans or providers and BOOM you got a new phone. In England the providers are forced to standardize their phones so they work with any providers. I have at least 3 smart phones that still work but wont work with current providers. They are so old now that we cannot get batteries for them. More planned obsolescence. We keep moving between T mobile and Verizon. Crazy huh?

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33688) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

They should be made to take the old phones back and recycle em - but 1st having made them safe for recycling = non toxic biodegradable plastics ( Say - from hemp ) Internal components reused or scavenged for their base parts/metals/chemicals etc. Full circle marketing - make it - sell it - recycle it. Their cost of business is to include shipping old products to their recycling operations ( clean tech only ).

[-] 1 points by analystwanabe99 (153) 6 years ago

They should be forced to buy it back if it is still functioning as ALL of mine were. Basically your only renting it anyway since it is specific to their network.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33688) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Specific to their network - captured customers - for the duration of a contract.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33688) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Ayn Rand - How Fucked-up Is That? Can these followers of selfism not see that those with the power want to see them dead? or enslaved? Because that is how selfism works out - everyone trying to get what they can as much as they can and everyone else - "IS" the enemy. Fucking insanity.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

I'm thinkin' this one might deserve it's own thread about now, as it does support my theory of neolibe(R)tarianism spreading Worldwide.

In the end, you can call it what you like I guess.

Corporatism (Worldwide)

Randianism.

Neolibe(R)tarianism.

It's a modern return of the 19th century robber barons on a worldwide scale.

[-] 1 points by analystwanabe99 (153) 6 years ago

Careful . . . your passions are showing . . .

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33688) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

That is why business has been fighting standardization. Because it would infringe on their captive market(ing).

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

These hydrates can be found in all the Worlds oceans.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33688) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

An End to Fracking?

Or a possible new/additional hazard?

Let us just hope if it is done and expanded upon - that it can be - and is - done safe clean and responsibly.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

After Fukushima, I would hope that Japan would lower it's energy risks.

But one never knows, when profits become the only motive.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33688) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

There was a segment on the PBS News Hour yesterday where a town in Japan was shown - the town had been cut off from electricity and any help due to the radioactive plume from Fukushima. They ( the town ) has vowed to go completely green = wind power solar power and anything else that is clean tech.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

The risks of nuclear water boiling has always felt like overkill to me, especially once the risks are factored in.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33688) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Safe uranium nuclear power - Pipe Dream - take away their opium.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

E-cat=community based power generation.

LFTR=generation comparable to today's reactors, with highly reduced risk factors.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33688) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

A thorium breeder reactor would be a step in the right direction.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

That's LFTR.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33688) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

It is on an old post of mine for clean power generation - alternatives to fossil fuel as well as uranium - that are viable and are within our technological capability - Right Now.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33688) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Cold fusion - lets get there.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

E-cat's as close as we've come so far.

They can argue the process all they want, but the truth is, it works.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33688) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

And will no doubt lead to further refinements/discoveries when implemented. Our understanding a process improving a process always grows with implementation and use.

Thing is to continually improve processes - Like The Generation of Power for Utilities Industry and Transportation. And getting rid of old and dirty technologies as we outgrow them ( as we are able ).

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 6 years ago

I've never heard of it, that is rather interesting.

[-] -3 points by cantstandsya4 (-3) 6 years ago

Fracking LIES by liberals....as always. No flames out of faucets, that weren't there decades before fracking. No poisoning of water...no environmental disasters.

Liberals energy policy remains the same as they continue to shriek.

"What comes from the ground....STAYS in the ground"

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 6 years ago

What happened to cantstandsya 1, 2, and 3? All destroyed by accident and sabotage?

Fitting.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

No earthquakes either,"right"?

They were faking it.