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Forum Post: We can't accept the 2012 US presidential election.

Posted 11 years ago on Jan. 4, 2012, 10:39 p.m. EST by djkgamc (2)
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Here's an achievable idea for 2012.

Symbolically, can we direct our new massive force of protest & activism entirely towards the 2012 US Presidential Elections? As a really massive group in deep unrest, we can heavily disrupt the entire process at all stages, aggressively expose and publicize every failure to democracy in our voting & campaign systems, and relentlessly broadcast internal resistance to the US elections to international media and other mass channels, and just fight the whole thing to an unprecedented extent, until it is shameful, controversial, and unrecognized worldwide.

We'd have 11 whole months to dismantle this year's presidential election. With so many people on board, it seems so possible!

Just a thought for conversation.




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[-] 2 points by neveragain (55) 11 years ago

I agree wholeheartedly...it's the only way!!! RevolutioN

[-] 0 points by ironboltbruce (371) from Miami, FL 11 years ago

American Elections: False Choices Hiding Other False Choices

The American elections perpetually televised by our Kleptocracy-controlled media are a smokescreen of false choices distracting attention from even more false choices. At the presidential level and likely others, our election results are predetermined: If not by the billions poured into brainwashing voters through the media, then by rigging the voting machines and if necessary having a tainted judiciary overrule recounts:

Psywar: The Real Battlefield is Your Mind http://www.openfilm.com/videos/psywar

Hacking Democracy http://www.hulu.com/watch/192687/hacking-democracy

Peace! http://www.hulu.com/watch/177439/peace

This Orwellian subterfuge distracts the attention of the Sheeple from other false choices that have far more impact than which corporate puppet gets to sit in the Oval Office for four years. Those choices currently include: the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 (NDAA) - a loss of real freedoms in return for protection from fabricated threats; the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and Protect IP Act (PIPA) - Internet censorship disguised as intellectual property protection; and the Keystone XL Pipeline Project - which will give us dirty energy and ditch-digging jobs at an ecological cost that may include the main water supply for the American Heartland - approval for which was accelerated by a clause buried in the recent Payroll Tax Cut legislation that received bipartisan praise. This deceptive spin and doublespeak has been going on for years, and will continue at an ever-accelerating pace now that Corporate Fascist Puppet President Barack Hussein Obama signed away ou! r Bill of Rights on New Year's Eve, while we were watching balls drop and he was in Hawaii, about as far away as he could be from the uprising of an angry citizenry that never materialized...


Mainstream media focuses on America's two-year election cycles as if who wins or loses in the swinging of the pendulum was a matter of life or death, when in fact even at the Presidential level it makes no more difference than the outcomes of Monday Night Football, American Idol, Dancing With The Stars, Hillbilly Handfishing, the trial of Michael Jackson's doctor, or the latest Kardashian crisis. Our elections are staged to give Sheeple the illusion of control so they will (a) vent their frustrations and expend their energy, emotions and resources supporting or attacking the Puppet on the Left hand or the Puppet on the Right, and consequently (b) never recognize and challenge the common omnipotent Puppetmaster. As long as corporations own the politicians, it's futile to believe we can "CHANGE" things with our votes.


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[-] 0 points by headlesscross (67) 11 years ago

Interesting,but to what end? What is the goal?

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 11 years ago


hard to say - perhaps the election of one lawn raul

[-] 1 points by djkgamc (2) 11 years ago

It's probably too late to contribute right now, but to contribute to this discussion:

I would provide a huge list of election problems, similar to wall street problems, including

  • an analysis of the new role of superpacs and where the money is coming from
  • an analysis of what percentage of americans fund all political campaigning (as described by lawrence lessig, less than 1%)
  • an analysis of course of citizens united
  • reexamination of the actual voting machines
  • a re-analysis of candidate voices
  • the new racially controversial voting legislation horrifyingly being passed in advance of this election in many states
  • other state by state voting issues
  • and finally, the vision and consequences of the next non-representative american president

and we can all decide then, what it means, if we just let this election pass.

It's not the time to for the entire country to get walked all over again. We're not in position to simply accept our fate. Just like our Egyptian counterparts and their election protest, we really might have here our ONLY chance here to propel a voice to retake our democracy, and US Presidential voting is a centerpiece symbol of democracy. The goal would be to publically admit, address, and reform all of the problems in the election process, and devalue the current system publically as a non-democracy.

[-] 0 points by headlesscross (67) 11 years ago

Can you sum that up simply,in a less convoluted statement. Are you really just voting Obama? But you can't bring yourself to admit it?

[-] 1 points by djkgamc (2) 11 years ago

I can't right now, but that would be the way to inspire and push this conversation forward. I personally can't do that, just offering a thought.

[-] 0 points by headlesscross (67) 11 years ago

Are you really just voting Obama? But you can't bring yourself to admit it?