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Forum Post: Americans For Prosperity: Sequestration Will Help Economy

Posted 11 years ago on March 4, 2013, 10:14 p.m. EST by GirlFriday (17435)
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Americans for Prosperity sent the following email to its subscribers on Saturday:

We often criticize GOP leaders for not standing firm on limited government principles, but today Americans for Prosperity thanks Speaker John Boehner and House Republicans for standing up to President Obama and making sure the $85 billion in much-needed sequester spending cuts took effect. Despite a relentlessly hysterical campaign from President Obama and the Left claiming that sequester cuts would end American civilization as we know it, the sun still rose this morning. For the first time in a long time, genuine substantive spending reductions actually took effect and the government is running just a bit leaner.

While Speaker Boehner and the GOP deserve credit and thanks for taking a gutsy stand, it’s important to realize what an incredible impact AFP activists like you are making in this fight. All across the country, folks like you have called their members of Congress, made visits in person to congressional district offices, sent emails, and kept the pressure on through Twitter and Facebook. These combined efforts helped spread a message across the country that enabled House Republicans to take heart and do the right thing knowing that conservatives back home had their back

As an example, I was out at a leadership event in Portland, Oregon this week where Beth, one of our dedicated AFP activists, told me how she had sent personal messages to each of her 243 Facebook friends asking them to contact their member of Congress to tell him to "keep the cuts" so we can "get our economy moving again." She had also personally visited her member's district office with her husband.

Even USA Today, the nation’s second largest newspaper after The Wall Street Journal, recognized the effectiveness of AFP activists and gave us the opportunity to articulate the importance of the sequester cuts. Here’s an excerpt:

“These modest cuts are an important step forward for economic growth. While perhaps painful at first, they will restore some balance to our fiscal system, allowing government to prioritize properly and function in line with the American people.” Click here to read more!

Our AFP Iowa state director Mark Lucas, who served combat tours in Afghanistan as an Army Ranger, went on FOX News pushing back against the Left's claims that sequester cuts should be stopped because of their impact on national defense. You can check out the video by CLICKING HERE.

We have big fights ahead of us to rein in government overspending. President Obama and his friends are going to continue their campaign of fear and intimidation against those of us who oppose their big government policies. But the $85 billion in cuts, while a modest start of just 2 cents on the dollar in federal spending, demonstrate that we can win.

Thank you again for all you’ve done in the fight for fiscal responsibility. We're proud to serve on the freedom team with you.

Much lies ahead,

Tim Phillips

PS: Growing up my mom taught me to promptly thank someone who stands up and does the right thing. I ask you to join me in dropping just a quick email to Speaker Boehner and other Republicans for standing up and forcing these $85 billion in genuine spending cuts.

Well, there you have it

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[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

still helping the "economy" by hurting those most in need of help from said economy.

http://www.propublica.org/article/everything-we-know-about-whats-happened-under-sequestration

[-] -1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 10 years ago

Does anybody know how much that Memphis Soul concert cost?

[-] -1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 10 years ago

Plus, he has nowhere near the amount of starpower the concert had.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Unlike the sequester, no will die either.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

FLAKESnews makes flakes even flakier.

Thanks for proving it once again.

[-] 0 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 10 years ago

They make my life bad.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Then stop believing them.

It's your "choice".

Though I doubt you will exercise it, as you quote them often..

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

His talk convinced the meat inspectors’ union and other industry heavyweights to start lobbying. The National Cattlemen’s Beef Association, the National Chicken Council, the National Turkey Federation went to work, and the Senate ended up moving $55 million from other Agriculture Department programs to the inspectors.


Interesting thing, that. Reminds me of Mr. Crabs. "Oh, you mean my money."

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Meanwhile, they shuffle meager funds from one place to another and something, or someone, somewhere always continues to suffer.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

But, they got theirs.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Of course. They get highly paid for money shuffling. It's the WallStreet way of profit.

Actually doing something is just so plebeian.

Did you see this??

Not sure if it's about sequestration or the ACA, but it's not in the National news cycle. they must have been mad about all those folks in Wisconsin, getting all that air and press time.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022688743

The people are getting angry and the press.........ignores them.

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

I did not see that.

They ran. They ran so far away. Cowards.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Meanwhile, back in Michigan, the rip off of the people continues unabated.

http://www.eclectablog.com/2013/04/americans-for-prosperity-wants-gov-snyder-to-use-education-cuts-state-employees-to-fund-road-repairs.html

Just don't tax the people that run the corporations, that they raised MY taxes to fund them another break.

It's hard to even explain what they're doing!!

It's so convoluted and ass backwards.

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

Where did all the supporters go?

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

They're busy chasing inclusion around and biting on the bait of the next news cycle.

That kind of thing is far to important to them, so they ignore certain realities.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

Well, all in the name of counterproductive actions.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Wait till you hear about the State Policy Network.

Destroying Democracy.......many States at a time.

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

And this is why we don't talk about what is happening in the states. It's all about state's rights and how states are looking out for the peeps.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

They're already trying to bury it.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/state-policy-network/

Is the Koch's big April rollout?

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Real Americans don't need no stinkin' courts.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/12/judges-spending-cuts-strike-at-the-heart-of-justice-system/

Justice is for the BIG people, that can afford it.

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Ya, this is something that many courts have been saying for the past two years.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

So this is likely one more thing the GOP has been planning for years?

[-] -1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 11 years ago

Its not justice. Its Just- Us. - Celente

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Ah yes, the march of the Ayn Rand Planet continues, unrecognized and unchallenged.

http://www.alternet.org/economy/welcome-ayn-rand-planet-why-rich-prosper-stock-market-while-we-get-screwed

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Here's the scary part. The more the Randian philosophy infects the Republicans, the more the Democrats move to the right. As President Clinton sarcastically quipped in 1993, "Where are all the Democrats? I hope you're all aware we're all Eisenhower Republicans...Here we are, and we're standing for lower deficits and free trade and the bond market. Isn't that great?"


Yes, Bill, that was real swell.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

I'm going to assume you didn't see the interview in the first MOC show.

I found it telling and truly, terrifyingly enlightening, as to just how long the Koch's have been at this..

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

No, but I read. The earliest that this has been in play that I have read is the 1970's.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Yep, about the time they founded the libe(R)tarians.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

and brought back prison labor.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Now they want to profitize them all.

Cheaper labor. Just wait and see.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago
[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Good article.

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Can't have science competing with profits.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/03/11/1700421/bloomberg-soda-ban-right-direction/

It might have seemed silly at the time, but it is the correct thing to do

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

The correct thing to do would have been to recognize those loopholes initially. There are only two paths for it. He is either a blithering idiot OR he knew in advance that it wouldn't work but, shucks............he tried.

[-] 4 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

True. There are few things in this world slimier than Bloomberg and most of those aren't human...........:)

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

I am at the point where I find it very hard to take him, or others like him, seriously when we watch these things go down.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

It appears to me that somewhere, deep within his administration is an unheralded publicist.

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

lol. Yeah, agreed.

[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

But Baaba Waawa likes him.

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

And I'm ok with that. I am just tired of the never ending BS.

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

Yep - the BS that gets publicity/coverage is truly sick.

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

I agree with that statement as well.

There are moments in time when I went to scream out, "I am not a mushroom!!!!!!"

[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

LOL - Yep

So - ASSHOLES STOP SHOVELING THE SHIT

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 11 years ago

More fuckin' lying bastards!!

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Don't forget the environment!!

Oh.....wait.......they don't like that either.

Gotta keep those rich folks as rich as possible.

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/02/how-sequester-will-impact-environment

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Wait, we just eat that..................at some point, it should start clicking.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

The poor among us even get screwed 12 ways to Sunday.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/02/budget-cuts-sequester-low-income-poor

I guess that has to qualify as (R)epelican't poetry.

The ugliest art there is.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Now, this is what I mentioned on the other thread: Public housing subsidies: $1.9 billion in cuts would affect 125,000 low-income people who would lose access to vouchers to help them with their rent.

Foreclosure prevention: 75,000 fewer people would receive foreclosure prevention, rental, and homeless counseling services.

Emergency housing: 100,000 formerly homeless people could be removed from their current emergency shelters.

But, it doesn't make a dent.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

The part they keep missing is this.

Yeah, it's only 100 billion and compared to the massive amounts they bandy about, it's not that much.

But it's 100 billion being taken out of the end of the bucket that's already pretty dry....

It would be the part of the bucket on the left of the video.

http://mashable.com/2013/03/02/wealth-inequality/

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

I am beginning to suspect they get it, but they don't really give a damn.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

It's gonna hurt the States as well and make them more vulnerable to ALEC and other dubious "charities". As well as another round of painful tax wars with other States, making them even more vulnerable..

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

TWICE!!

In one it's a fairy tail, in this one it's a good thing.

For the 1%!!!

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/sequester-will-be-good-economy

You would think they could make up their minds, since they are supposedly so much more enlightened than the rest of us..

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

You rock!

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Look where else it shows up.

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/fairy-tale-spending-cuts

One must keep in mind that the brothers Koch have regained control.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Well, I don't understand, Shooz.

Where are all of those that preach independent thinking?

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Off somewhere snorting lines of Koch??

It would appear their kind of independence is a bit schizophrenic.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Yeah, must be.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Guess what they're after next?

http://www.mackinac.org/18347

Can't let those low lifes look at any more art.

Art is for private collections.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

And that is exactly how education is gonna pan out to. I love these fucknuts.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Karl Rove is geared up to attack Ashley Judd over at American Crossroads, so nothing on sequester there..

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

I think they already started as Trump was all pissed off. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/14/donald-trump-ashley-judd_n_2686938.html

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

If she gets tangled up in that toupee, it's all over.

We may never hear from her again.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Yeah, that would be a bad thing.

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[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Now it hits home for Latinos too.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/sequestration-hits-hispanic-families-hard/2013/07/21/7788e412-eb07-11e2-aa9f-c03a72e2d342_story.html?wpisrc=nl_headlines

No folks, the sequester didn't go away. It's effects are still growing.

[-] 1 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

85 billion in bailouts per month. 700+billion since November.

No end in sight.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

YEP.

That ball started rolling just before Bush left office.

Keep MMT in mind, and you will begin to see this more clearly..

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

That's what all the teabagge(R)s and John Birchers are repeating over and over and over.

It's a mind numbing way to ignore their own backyard.

[-] 1 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

I think one is an Occupy march, not a tea person rally:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1OlzroqIus

[-] 1 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

Here's another one, from Cinci

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzzXJ5Zv7zI

She looks about as much like a tea person as I do.

[-] 0 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

Bailouts were Occupy rallying cry.

"Banks got bailed out, we got sold out"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrYLvtbXIwY

Goosebumps

[-] 0 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

"That's what all the teabagge(R)s and John Birchers are repeating over and over and over"

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

See?

They know it too.

They minimize the occupy at Scott's office, just like you do.

[-] 0 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

"No folks, the sequester didn't go away. It's effects are still growing."

Banks got bailed out, we got sold out.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

I take it you didn't research MMT yet?

Still hung up on the Ron Paul economic theories?

End the FED bullshit?

All the while, you ignore the reality on your own doorstep?

Be aware.

ALEC, destroying Democracy, one State at a time.

[-] -1 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

"Banks got bailed out, we got sold out."

Its not a tea party rally.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Still changing the subject????

You're the teabagge(R) rally all by yourself.

It shows every time you attack any democrat/liberal/progressive around here, while only paying token attention to the many, many right wingers..

It's where your empathy lies.

It sure isn't it with those kids in Florida.

[-] -1 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

""Banks got bailed out, we got sold out."

Its not a tea party rally.

You should apologize.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

You first. Oh great and holy poster of John Birch material.

That's what makes you your own teabagge(R) rally.

the new nameplate, doesn't negate that simple reality about you.

[-] 0 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

"No folks, the sequester didn't go away. It's effects are still growing."

Banks got bailed out, we got sold out.

"That's what all the teabagge(R)s and John Birchers are repeating over and over and over"

It was occupy not a tea party.

[-] -1 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

""Banks got bailed out, we got sold out."

""That's what all the teabagge(R)s and John Birchers are repeating over and over and over""

Its not a tea party rally.

Waiting...

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

But you are.

Now about that John Birch and Breitbart stuff you posted.

How does that fit in?

I've been waiting even longer.

So fess up.

[-] -1 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

Too little of a man to do it? No pride? Lacking self respect?

"Banks got bailed out, we got sold out."

Its not a tea party rally.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Awww.

Another insult.

So tell?

What's the Occupy relationship with the John Birch Society?

Breitbart?

Alex Jones?

I want to understand how those fit in.

[-] 0 points by dingofarango (-5) 10 years ago

No need to create division anymore. Phase I is over. The site is ours now. It's time for phase II.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Excuse me?

What does that have to do with the anti "stand your ground" Occupy at Gov. Scott's office?

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

they president deemed those poor unwilling to play along

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[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Now it's helping to profitize the schools.

Let's fuck up more kids!!!

YAY for the do nothing congress.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/07/19/2330601/sequestration-hammers-neediest-schools-with-staff-cuts-closures/

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

They don't give a shit. They don't have to.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Cuts to mine safety!!!

YAY!

The Department of Labor is also planning to lay off 30 of the 74 lawyers it hired to work through a backlog of mine-safety citations that are under appeal. The department had hired the lawyers after a 2010 explosion at a mine run by a company that had received many such citations but fought them, preventing regulatory action against it. The move will save the Labor Department $2.1 million.

Real Americans don't need no mine safety!!!

They just need to go to work, collect a meager pay check and shut up.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/everything_we_know_about_whats_happened_under_sequestration_20130507/

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

And the whole damned thing will be resolved July 4. Damn, that would piss me off even more.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

It will??

Did miss something?

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

No, Peter Peterson.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Please refresh my memory.

What's Pete got planned?

As if he hasn't done enough damage already.

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

Key to the strategy is ginning up a crisis. In lockstep, the CEOs, politicians, and partner organizations stormed the media last fall warning of the looming disaster of the so-called "fiscal cliff." Breaching the fiscal cliff "will lead to chaos," warned Erskine Bowles; "derail the fragile recovery," said Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein; generate a "shock to the financial markets and a painful return to the recession," said the CEO of Morgan Stanley.

But this chorus of calamity was pure hype. One Fix the Debt steering committee member, former Tennessee governor Phil Bredesen, let slip that the strategy was to create an "artificial crisis" that would force Congress to act.

Their goal is to achieve a Simpson-Bowles style "grand bargain" on an austerity agenda for the United States by the nation's 237th birthday on July 4, 2013.

But the Founding Fathers would be outraged at the shenanigans of these summer soldiers and phony patriots.

Many Fix the Debt firms pay a very low or even a negative average tax rate, contributing to the nation's deficit. Fix the Debt is secretly pushing for a major tax break that would exempt profits earned overseas by U.S. firms from taxation and encourage the offshoring of U.S. jobs. While the Fix the Debt CEOs call for cuts to Social Security, many of the publicly-traded Fix the Debt firms underfund their employee pension plans -- making their workers even more dependent on the popular social insurance plan that American workers pay into with each paycheck.

http://www.prwatch.org/node/11990

That IOUSA propaganda film that has been posted on this forum is one of his.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

That must be why they've squelched the reality of the miscalculations in the report the austerity budgets are being planned on.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2013/04/rush-cut-debt-based-flawed-paper

This story should still be in the headlines, but it's truth is fading before it was ever really heard.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

I know, right? I find it amazing that the miscalculations are not being screamed from the towers of humanity.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

You do recall, that it was our "friend" Peterson that paid for the original study?

Ryan's still pushing it, but it's still a crock, no matter which way you look at it.

http://www.alternet.org/economy/10-reasons-austerity-crock

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

Stop it..............you liberal, you.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Should I return to picking on Texas' unmitigated fall into libe(R)topia??

http://inthesetimes.com/article/14934/west_blast_obliterates_safety_lie

YAY, death for profit!!

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

Does it matter? It doesn't matter which way you move somebody will start screaming, "Ouch!"

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Or they'll just change the subject, away from reality.

Our latest thrasy player is a fine example of that.

[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Hee Hee Hee - me too me too :

On austerity:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/multimedia/sequestration-local/

See Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide


Worth repeating.

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

Ya! You, too. You ol' prosecutor of the site you.

[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Ya! You, too. You ol' prosecutor of the site you.

{:-(

You don't see me as a Perry Mason ( site defender )???

{:-]) Well It's all good as long as the criminals get taken down ( along with their shills - site attackers).

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (24773) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 minutes ago

My Bad - Let me help (?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6QwwvTtS_8

or how bout

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBu8h1Js5Fg ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink


Patty Smyth

Holy crap, I haven't heard that in near long enough.

[+] -7 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Oooops - My Bad - again.

How bout - time for something completely different - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGtTY7AczXM

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

But I do!!!

And now, I'm going to have that song stuck in my head. Not the theme song. Ozzy.

[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

My Bad - Let me help (?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6QwwvTtS_8 ooops maybe I should have run that 1st before posting it - a different rendition http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ68ovUkw58

or how bout

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBu8h1Js5Fg

[+] -7 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Made a very nice tweet - thx for sharing.

10 Reasons Austerity Is a Crock | Alternet http://www.alternet.org/economy/10-reasons-austerity-crock See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Sequestration, once again hurts those who need it most.

There will be blood.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/05/06/1966331/sequestration-domestic-violence/

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

Yep.

That said, the system doesn't work.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Closer to home and with a little more help from Snyder, more people will suffer and it's likely some will die.

This time it hits an entire hospital system, not just clinics.

http://www.freep.com/article/20130416/BUSINESS/304160144/layoffs-to-come-at-dmc

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 11 years ago

All the more proof of how fucking stupid the Koch front is.

Cutting 85 billion in spending, not to be confused with 85 billion less in taxation. They're going against their own argument and they don't even realize it. These guys obviously got their wealth through greed and manipulation, because they are ignorant fools.

[-] 0 points by keith1967 (-2) from Brooklyn, NY 11 years ago

Koch? What the hell are you talking about? Ben Bernanke (head of the federal reserve, which is part of the executive branch) is printing up $85 BILLION A MONTH out of thin air.

THAT money is going straight into Wall Street. That's why the stock market is flying high while the economy continues to suck. Cutting $85 Billion a month is nothing. It's not even a drop in the bucket. Hell, it isn't even a cut. It's slowing the rate of growth if federal spending.

BTW, who heads the executive branch? President Obama. The nomination of Wall Street's Jack Lew should have clued you in if Tim Geithner and all his other advisors didn't by now.

This has nothing to do with the GOP, Koch, Republicans or Boehner. You wanna attack the wealthy, then look at who is really behind the curtain --- the White House. The GOP has little power these days.

[-] -1 points by Narley (272) 11 years ago

Playing devil’s advocate a little, but we don’t yet know how bad this will be. Certainly some people will get hurt because they lose their job, have their hours cut and some monies given back to the States will be reduced.

We don’t really know bad it will be overall. Maybe In the long runs a good thing? Seems to be some public support for it. The masses aren’t up in arms. I think this is a manufactured crises involving the parties trying to cause problems for each other.

Also, I think the parties are still playing chicken on this. Just waiting on the other side to blink first. I think this will be fixed before it really takes effect. Yea. They’re jerks for playing these games, but it will get fixed within a month.

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

$100,000,000,000+ bad.

Each and every year bad.

It adds up to $1,000,000,000,000+ of bad over 10 years.

All the BAD goes to those on the left hand side of the video.

http://mashable.com/2013/03/02/wealth-inequality/

WallStreet and the guys on the right hand side wouldn't even blink if it happened to them, but it didn't, so they don't have to put in even that much work.

[-] 0 points by Narley (272) 11 years ago

Uh, excuse me, but we’re talking about the sequester. Not wall street.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

OIC. You didn't read the top half of what I said.

On the other hand, by some estimates WallStreet will make out on the sequester, so it's really not that far out of line.

[-] 0 points by keith1967 (-2) from Brooklyn, NY 11 years ago

Wall Street will make out by the $85 Billion a MONTH being printed out of thin air by Ben Bernanke and sloshing into the stock market. Any objection to that, or is that OK because it's what the president wants?

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

These are separate, unrelated issues.

Plus, I don't want to attempt to explain MMT to you.

[-] -1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 11 years ago

they will not fix the cuts to education. They will only reverse the cuts to the military. That's my guess. Standard bullshit from a government manipulated by corporations.

[-] -1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 11 years ago

Everytime Congress goes back into session, this is how it makes us all feel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3Qeh6KA6H8

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 11 years ago

I think this one compares too. Thanks for the laugh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEmklTvAkbM

[-] 0 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 11 years ago

Boehner,both houses of congress,executive office.Real cockroaches .

[-] 0 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 11 years ago

Creepin through the night.... When the lights come on, they are no where to be found :)

[-] -1 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 11 years ago

Just scurry away.Come back when lights go off.Throw them a few crumbs and they will never leave you

[-] -2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 11 years ago

Which is ironic, because thats all they do with the people- toss them a few crumbs once in a while.

Im getting real sick of settling for crumbs.

[-] -1 points by Nader (74) 11 years ago

The effects of the sequestration will barely be felt, if at all, by the vast majority of Americans. Both parties are blowing this way out of proportion. It is like 2% of our overall budget. Granted it would have been nice to be selective where the cuts are but it is a measly 2% of the budget.

[+] -4 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Define felt.

[-] 0 points by Nader (74) 11 years ago

Having any effect on our daily lives or our quality of life.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Who do you think will feel it?

[-] 0 points by Nader (74) 11 years ago

The people being furloughed will obviously. Most of them are already making a lot more (average of $80K in aerospace and defense) than the average American working for an organization (the DOD) that most agree needs to scaled back big-time. They will have smaller paychecks for a few months. The vast majority of Americans won't feel a thing.

[+] -4 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Let's take just this right here

The Navy will cut more than 3,000 employees — almost 10 percent — from its shipyard workforce through a civilian hiring freeze and by laying off temporary workers, Adm. Jonathan Greenert, chief of naval operations, said in a Thursday memo.

In the face of a potentially stiff funding shortfall this year, the Navy also plans to cancel all aircraft depot maintenance from April through September, halt the bulk of surface ship upkeep at private shipyards, and reduce spending on information technology support, conferences and travel, Greenert told flag officers and top executives in the memo. Also on the chopping block: repair and modernization of most piers, runways, buildings and other facilities through the end of fiscal 2013 in September.

and then let's just stay Navy for a minute and add this tiny thing right here: The Navy caught San Diego's major shipyards off guard Friday, announcing that it is delaying at least $219 million in repair and modernization work on 10 warships that are homeported in San Diego Bay or scheduled to visit over the next year. The decision could have a significant affect on local shipyards, which collectively employ about 10,000 people. The decision involves some of the Navy's biggest and oldest ships, including the 32-year-old amphibious assault ship Peleliu, which played a role in Operation Iraqi Freedom. And less money could be available later this year to service the aircraft carrier Carl Vinson, and for the decommissioning of old ships.

James Gill, a spokesman for General Dynamics-NASSCO, learned about the Navy's decision Friday night and did not have an immediate comment. Repairing and modernizing Navy ships represents a crucial area for NASSCO, which employs about 3,200 people in San Diego.

BAE Systems San Diego Ship Repairs is even more dependent on such work. The yard employees about 1,300 people and said recently that it was looking forward to five to 10 years of steady work because of anticipated contracts to repair and modernize destroyers. http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/jan/25/san-diego-shipyards-navy-budget/


I'm using this as an example because it's quite visible.

[-] 1 points by Nader (74) 11 years ago

Definitely sucks for them. Fortunately they make up a small % of Americans.

We spend too much money we don't have and specifically spend way too much on our military.

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Look carefully at the following short video.

http://mashable.com/2013/03/02/wealth-inequality/

The people this will hurt, are on the left.

The people that it will aid are on the FAR right.

Now?

Why would you want to do that to those people on the left?

[+] -4 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

According to a Pew Report, federal spending represents 5.4 percent of the Texas economy. If sequestration were to happen, Texas would suffer from massive cuts to many federally funded programs the state depends on to serve Texans in the areas of health, education and defense.

Public education would see the largest estimated reduction, at $517.6 million, according to the committee's report. The Texas Education Agency testified that 120 of its 130 federally funded programs would be subject to sequestration. Austin ISD stated in the committee's report that it would lose as much as $4.8 million in federal grant funding, resulting in job losses and a significantly diminished ability to provide services to disabled children.

The interim committee found that higher education would suffer in the areas of research and financial aid funding. The University of Texas System predicted that sequestration cuts would result in financial aid program cuts totaling up to $1.4 million annually.

Services that subsidize child care for low-income families would also suffer under sequestration. The committee estimated that the Texas Workforce Commission's Child Care Services would see a $20 million reduction. Head Start, a similar subsidized child care service, would lose 1,463 Texas jobs, and some 7,022 parents would lose jobs because of a lack of child care.

The report found that Texas would be in the top three states to lose jobs. Another major source of job losses would come from cuts to the Department of Defense, which would leave the Texas defense industry vulnerable. http://www.texastribune.org/2013/02/12/texplainer-how-could-sequestration-affect-texas/


Incidentally, it's why I giggle every time Texas says they want to leave the Union.

[-] -1 points by highlander2 (-48) 11 years ago

It is right wing shit like this that will keep the government from swallowing us up. Keep up the good work; about the only sane, logical statement on sequestration that I have seen here.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Did you work really hard to get the words shit and swallowing in the same sentence?

I found it amusing, because the government can't swallow us until after WallStreet shits us out.

You seem to have gotten it backwards.

[-] -1 points by highlander2 (-48) 11 years ago

the republicans caved on taxes for those making more than 400,000 a year. the democrats are dragged kicking and screaming to cuts in both defense and non defense spending? This sounds like the balanced approach to fixing the budget that we are hearing about.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Well, Mr. magical, mystical, mudhead.

How's it going to balance this?

http://mashable.com/2013/03/02/wealth-inequality/

[-] -1 points by highlander2 (-48) 11 years ago

Oh boy. How do I put this. Ok, here it goes. I do not give a shit about wealth inequality. Born and raised by blue collar parents, worked through school, earned scholarships based on merit, not race. And work for every dime that I earn. Nothing special, nothing magical. I do not envy anybody's wealth; I aim to earn more.

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Could you help me out then?

A bunch of teabagge(R)s are confiscating a lot the dimes I earned and giving them to rich folks.

[-] -1 points by highlander2 (-48) 11 years ago

How about some specifics?

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Teabagge(R)s raised my taxes, supposedly to bribe corporations to do business in my state.........They just laughed and didn't bother to come here.

The teabagge(R)s didn't repeal my tax raise though. Nope. They are about use fees to raise them again.

Big ass bunch of liars is what they are..

What else do you need to know?

[-] -1 points by highlander2 (-48) 11 years ago

raised which taxes? The payroll tax that was repealed?

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Nope, State taxes.

Teabagge(R)s lie worse than the rest.

They lie and lie and lie and then they lie some more.

[-] -1 points by highlander2 (-48) 11 years ago

State income taxes? My state, Florida, has no state tax. Again, how about some examples? I am sure there are some tea party crooks, but it would be like me calling all democrats pinko commie meatheads.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Where are the teabagge(R)s that aren't crooks?

I've yet to see one.

[-] -2 points by highlander2 (-48) 11 years ago

Talking to one

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

That remains to be seen.

Why aren't you aware of the bad works of your fellows?

[-] 2 points by notaneoliberal (2269) 11 years ago

I think you mean Fl has no state income tax. Fl has state sales tax, tourism tax, intangible tax, property tax, fuel tax,and the most toll roads of any state.

[-] -2 points by highlander2 (-48) 11 years ago

Oops.

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Is it? Do tell.

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

We often criticize GOP leaders for not standing firm on limited government principles, but today Americans for Prosperity thanks Speaker John Boehner and House Republicans for standing up to President Obama and making sure the $85 billion in much-needed sequester spending cuts took effect.

THE FUCKERS Why??? Because you know those cuts are not the continuing bailout of the criminal banksters on wallstreet.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Irony, or Freudian slip?

"limited government principles"

The GOP certainly has a very limited number of those.

[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

They are easier to read/anticipate/predict then a book. Support the greed - should be tattooed on their foreheads.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Limited principals.

Governmental or not.

[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

They have principals?????

Oooops - Never Mind

They and anyone can have principals - they don't have to be good principals - and damn-it - their principals are truly fucked-up.

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

CorpoRAT warfare - domestic actions - no doubt in concert with ALEC HERITAGE CATO etc etc etc to privatize and totally screw education - another face of profits over people.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Complimented by News Corp.

Just what we need.

A FLAKESnwes and WallyWorld, world.

http://phys.org/news/2013-03-news-corp-tablet.html

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Your child's education.

Brought to you by WallMart.

On sale for half price, two days only.

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

Subliminal tapes NOW on sale.

Have your little one conform without being aware of what is going on.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Did you catch the FLAKESnews middle school tablet in the link above?

I wonder what kind of spyware will be in that thing.

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

No I did not see that. I will have a look - though not likely today - not in condition for deep thinking today.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

A WallyWorld education, brought to you by FLAKESnews!

Deep thinking discouraged.

That's the point....................:)

[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

The making of flesh and blood drones - brought to you by CorpoRAT America.

[-] -3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

That seems to be the case.

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

THE FUCKERS