Forum Post: American Militia Units. We can provide support to OWS protests.
Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 15, 2012, 12:50 p.m. EST by Cool43
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All you need do is post a notice about an upcoming protest here http://www.awrm.org/
Log in Discussion Forum and use The Political Front
If a local unit is able and willing they will make contact.
“The New American Patriot will be neither left nor right, just a freeman fighting for liberty. New alliances will form between those who have in the past thought of themselves as 'right-wingers,' conservatives and patriots with many people who have thought of themselves as 'left-wingers,' progressives, or just 'liberal.'…Soon, there will be millions in this country of every political persuasion confronting the police state on streets throughout America….Wake up and smell the tear gas. Freedom is calling its sons and daughters.
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A protest with ows and militias is a good idea if we could agree on what we are protesting before hand. This would show the gov the issues at hand reflect more then the left. The only thing we need to make sure of is that we have a message everyone agrees on and we don't go off topic.
Non-violence. OWS need not recruit militias. Militias can support positive change in a peaceful manner - and they should be - no one is stopping them from participating in direct democracy.
Militia, to avoid conflict, can appreciate legal process. They can be witnesses shooting video. They can learn non violence while ows can learn legal process.
And, it sound to me like the Militia is trying to recruit protestors to work with. Nothing wrong with that. Cooperation is everything.
Grow up. Really.
Well Coolio, you haven't come back and made any comments. No suggestions of issues we might have in common? We are all suffering from the rape of the U.S. Constitution and the assault on the middle class. But you have nothing further to say.
It seems likely that you are a provocateur. If so tell your bosses in the NYPD that you are a failure and should be fired.
The most important and effective methods to reform the government involve doing the best we can to educate people about the issues and to get them active without scaring them off. "Fighting for Democracy" in the literal sense should only be done as a last resort if it is necessary at all and presumably as a matter of self defense if the government uses violent oppression to crush dissent.. It is far more important to "Educate for Democracy." In the past when revolutions have been based on violence they have generally put the most violent in power and led to an exchange of one tyrant for another.
I hope your organization is made up of new American patriots, but violence would be put down with vastly superior violence. OWS is the non-violent 2nd American Revolution.
Militias "fighting for liberty"? Are you armed?
Real liberty is not won by violence. It's won through non cooperation with tyranny.
Are you a supporter of tyranny if you are a tax paying American?
Are not the real patriots working at wall mart for $7.50 an hour, and all middle class Americans who pay the political tyrants and their rich handlers just sell outs, speaking a good game but not doing what they are supposed to do?
You can't have your cake and protest it at the same time. Or can you?
"Are you a supporter of tyranny if you are a tax paying American?"
Yes.
The Walmart employees are unknowing accomplices of corporate America. Cooperating with tyranny by accepting sub standard wages. So are those who shop there.
Our protest needs to be redirected toward education. If the people don't understand that they are being robbed, both low and middle class, they will never join us in the fight to overthrow the corporate state.
I agree with the education part. But what's really sad about the whole predicament is that the low income workers, who I try and convince to fight back, mostly believe that I have been brainwashed. Supposedly, the big, bad university has turned me into a zombie. lol
Maybe they would listen to facts, like the minimum wage adjusted for inflation was over $10 an hour in 1968 compared to today's $7.25 an hour.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:History_of_US_federal_minimum_wage_increases.svg
Or the fact that 50% of all Americans make just $26,000 or less.
http://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/netcomp.cgi?year=2010
For people who don't like unions, when unions are weak, wealth increases for the wealthy.
http://philebersole.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/the-decline-of-american-labor-unions/
For the college graduates, their incomes really haven't risen either. Even those with advanced degrees.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Historical_median_personal_income_by_education_attainment_in_the_US.png
And for everyone else, the lower 90% of Americans haven't had a raise in 40 years.
http://stateofworkingamerica.org/who-gains/#/?start=1968&end=2008
George Washington and Abe Lincoln would have been surprised to learn about that.
Ghandi and MLK could have taught George and Abe a few things. We haven't had real peace since this country was founded because we are a violent people.
Are you serious?
Gandhi helped remove the same British oppressors without violence that Washington did with violence.
Apples and oranges. Comparing 18th century culture to 20th century cultur is foolish.
Boycotts work in any century. The Boston tea party in the 1770's, and the Montgomery bus boycott of the 1950's.
I believe MLK supported the violent struggle in South Africa, Rhodesia etc.
Gandhi also said, "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest".
I would doubt that MLK supported any violent tactics in Rhodesia and South Africa. Have any facts to back up your claim?
And Ghandi's quote in context.
"I used to issue leaflets asking people to enlist as recruits. One of the arguments I had used was distasteful to the Commissioner: 'Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest. If we want the Arms Act to be repealed, if we want to learn the use of arms, here is a golden opportunity. If the middle classes render voluntary help to Government in the hour of its trial, distrust will disappear, and the ban on possessing arms will be withdrawn.' The Commissioner referred to this and said that he appreciated my presence in the conference in spite of the differences between us. And I had to justify my standpoint as courteously as I could."
This was in regard to the Indian Arms act of 1878 which prohibited most Indians from owning guns. Gandhi didn't view arms as a lever to overthrow a foreign enemy, but as a tool of self defense.
please march exactly 300 miles east of Wall street and wait for us to meet you there
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