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Forum Post: America is about Big Business, Simple Take Over of Government is Just Corporate Culture, Isn't it?

Posted 5 years ago on Jan. 19, 2013, 9:53 a.m. EST by Middleaged (5140)
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Clearly there are a millions people or more that know that Corporate Influence is harming us - even as it provides the food we eat, the health care system, the energy grid, etc.

A. Medications are hurting kids brains and ruining their lives.
B. Agriculture has only 3 minerals added to the soil, so food is no longer very nutritious.
C. Illness can be traced to Vaccinations, Pesticides, and poor quality food.
D. Pharmacy Industry profits off the Disease, Obesity, Alergies, Social Ills, and just kids being too hyper, too poorly fed.
E. Big Agriculture owns the Farmer, the processer, the distributor, and the Retailer.
F. DoD federal budget has been increasing at an alarming rate since 1980, and skyrocketed in 2001.

1) Big Pharma Take Over of Government
2) Big Agriculture Take Over of Government
3) Big TBTF Banks Take Over of Government
4) Military Industrial Complex Take Over of Government
5) Big Oil (Rockafeller) Take Over of Government

Did I miss anything????

The Drugging Of Our Children (Full Length version proves the harm to kids brains and the vicious corporate crime of drugging kids and causing Violence) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26e5PqrCePk

THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP, By Russell Blaylock, M.D. http://www.whale.to/a/blaylock.html

1987 DOD Budget was $282 Billion
When Clinton took over, you would expect a decrease in DOD spending after the huge Reagan Budgets.
However this was not the case. As most government budgets when the budget gets increased there are powerful interests that fight for more money.
2001 DOD Budget was $304 Billion.
2011 DOD Budget was $680 Billion in total Outlays (unadjusted)

1998 the federal budget for secondary education $10.6 Billion.
Turns out the more kids diagnosed with ADHD, and mental illess increase funding for K-12 schools. But you don't see any investigation of the push to get kids on drugs or the suicides, violence, and brain changes related to Drugs. Or the criminal push by teachers to put kids on drugs.
2011 federal budget for secondary education $44 Billion based on the myth that kids are getting new diseases like ADD, ADHD, Depression, or whatever.

Uprising Radio: Conversation with Vandana Shiva - Part 1 (She tears the lid off GMO food, WHO, freedom in the US deprived by Corporations like Monsanto) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1dLvi0Yk3wQ&list=PL7YKya_R1ROvBpP1wyoIasH3nWQJ1-6KI?wmode=transparent#!

Seeds of Destruction, Controlling Food and Populations, Interview with William Engdahl, author of Seeds of Destruction http://mdrtalk.org/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_96zE8minOg&feature=youtube_gdata_player (Iceland, Inside Job to clean up banks and government)
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article33643.htm (The Incredible Debt Spider: It's Time to End the Private Fed)
http://bestmeal.info/monsanto/company-history.shtml (1901 - 2012)
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/htm/breaking.html (Monsanto)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgCpa1RlSdQ (The Marketing of Madness: The Truth About Psychotropic Drugs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zotYU21qcU (Chris Hedges Brace Yourself! The American Empire Is Over - Corporate Coup)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_on_Public_Information (Begining of our first US System of Propaganda, public manipulation)



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[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago


The tables below from the Center for Responsive Politics show donations to U.S. politicians from Monsanto’s Political Action Committee known as Monsanto Citizenship Fund between 2002 and the first quarter of 2012. If your Senator or Representative is on this list, contact them and say that you don’t support Monsanto’s efforts to genetically contaminate the world’s food supply. Combine the totals below with the $50 million dollars Monsanto spent on lobbying and it’s easy to see why Monsanto deserves to be occupied this fall.

Probe of 3 FDA Officials Sought

Industry Ties Before Approval of Bovine Growth Hormone Are at Issue

By John Schwartz, Washington Post Staff Writer, April 19, 1994

Three members of Congress have called for a federal investigation into possible conflicts of interest involving three officials of the Food and Drug Administration, which approved a controversial genetically engineered Monsanto Corp. drug last year. All three agency officials had some ties to Monsanto before coming to the FDA, but an agency spokesman denied there was any misconduct.

In a letter Friday to the General Accounting Office, Reps. George E. Brown Jr. (D-Calf.), David R. Obey (D-Wis.) and Bernard Sanders (I-Vt.) asked the watchdog agency to conduct a 30-day review of the FDA’s approval of recombinant bovine somatotropin (bST), a substance that increases milk yields in cows.

“A troubling pattern of unanswered questions is emerging that suggests an altogether too cozy relationship between some FDA officials central to this food safety decision and their close dealings with the Monsanto Company,” Sanders said in a statement.

[-] 2 points by peacehurricane (293) 5 years ago

We work to make things better and the harder we have to work makes us stronger, faster a song I saw on you tube Daft Punk. Our work is never over. There is not any part of the medical industry that is acceptable from my perspective. Any entity/person that has to do this to children will fall soon very soon.

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

Yes, I hope we don't let teachers push kids into medication. That is a reason to protest and become activists.

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

Monsanto Subsidies and Tax Abatements search no picking up anything on watchdog websites so far. But the total Agriculture subsidy looks like $50 Billion in the last 10 years ... which we would expect to roughly look like 90% going to Monsanto....? Just looks like it from article below from Mercola. Subsidize the Farm and the money flows to Monsanto for seed & Chemicals.


Wealthy absentee landowners and millionaire mega-farms receive the most farm subsidies, with top recipients earning over $1 million in subsidy payments a year .


The U.S. Farm Bill has allocated significantly increased funding in subsidizing corn andsoy crops over the past several decades. Over $34.5 billion was spent on corn subsidies and $11 billion was spent on soybean subsidies from 1985-2002, 1 and more than $50 billion was spentsubsidizing corn in the past decade. 2 Other subsidized crops that receive the most funding arewheat, cotton, and rice. Together, these five crops account for 90% of all subsidy payments. 3 Commodity payments did not change significantly in the 2008 Farm Bill, 3 which shows acontinued reliance on subsidizing a limited number of production crops.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Hmmmm - just what does the holy book of acquisition have to say.....

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

Marketing, Public Relations, Propaganda, Fiancial management, Income tax, Congressional record, ... DC Madam's Little Black Book (Funny that she commited suicide outside in a shed isn't it?)

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Hmmm death by misadventure more likely - me thinks.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

Did you like that new movie, Sci Fi, with Tom Hanks, that kept jumping back and forth in Time with 6 different peoples lives. I actually like that kind of thing. Sort of the Distopian Corporate future. Cloud Atlas a Halle Berry Project. http://www.oregonlive.com/movies/index.ssf/2012/07/movie_trailer_cloud_atlas_star.html

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Have not seen that - has it hit the red box 1.00 rentals yet? Looked interesting in the previews.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

Not sure if it will ever be in red box. It is an epic sci fi art film if I have to classify it. I don't think it did well in theaters. There are some gay scenes or anyway there is a gay love story, so the conservative don't like it. Actually I'm not sure where you get art films these days. I don't use Netflix.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Not to worry - did not do well in theaters? Will be for sale in stores pretty quick then - then onto the 5.00 shelf or bin soon after.

[-] 3 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago


[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

Yeah, Jeremy Skahil from like 2 years ago. Looks like max Keiser did a couple of shows about it.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

I looked into it, and the article sourced by Scahill does not mention ownership.

They were hired by Monsanto

"One of the most incendiary details in the documents is that Blackwater, through Total Intelligence, sought to become the "intel arm" of Monsanto, offering to provide operatives to infiltrate activist groups organizing against the multinational biotech firm."

"On September 3 the New York Times reported that Blackwater had "created a web of more than 30 shell companies or subsidiaries in part to obtain millions of dollars in American government contracts after the security company came under intense criticism for reckless conduct in Iraq.""


Still some very fucked up shit though.

[-] 1 points by SteadyRock (63) from New York, NY 5 years ago

Its a history of capitalistic culture. those who tried to change the corrupted corporate banking system - they died.

[-] 1 points by peacehurricane (293) 5 years ago

Until the generation arrives that shall not be killed and We are now alive and not for sale.

[-] 1 points by SteadyRock (63) from New York, NY 5 years ago

jfk too

[-] 1 points by peacehurricane (293) 5 years ago

Yes I am most certainly aware of him due to the fact my birth happened the following day. The whole country was in mourning.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

Andrew Jackson beat the banks, though. But it has been way too long.

[-] 1 points by Gillian (1842) 5 years ago

Thanks M for condensing all the information into one post. I really appreciate it.

The BIG BUMMER is that it's going to take a serious revolution to overturn or stop all these things because this has been going on for decades despite the activism against it. I think we need to file lawsuits like DK or Rising suggested. Sorry but I can't remember who posted about the class action- I've got to find that post.

Another serious issue is the fluoridation of our water....watch the doc, ' Fluoridegate'... http://www.fluoridegate.com/

I believe it's now one in 4 children has fluorosis on their teeth ( white spots) - my niece included. I'm very concerned because the visible symptom does not reveal the damage to a person's bones and I believe that when these young children are 30 years old, they will be suffering cancers, fractures, broken bones, loss of teeth and more. Fluoride is a serious toxin and ironically, Prozac is a form of fluoride. Not only are the drinking water levels too high but combined with dental treatments and other point sources, we are being over-dosed.

I don't know if this true or not but I remember someone telling me that I G Farbin was using fluoride in the nazi concentration camps to drug everyone into submission. If you find the connection, let me know.

Why do they fluoridate our water supply? Because industry that produces it as a byproduct after manufacturing, does not want to pay for hazardous disposal. SO, everyone agreed that they could dump it into our water at no charge.


[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Money has become the be all end all of worship and ambition - to hell with everything else - it does not matter - MONEY - I WANT IT - I WANT IT NOW - and if I have enough of it - I Can Rule/Misrule The World - to bad so sad if everyone will die because of the worship and pursuit of Money - I just have Got To Be Wealthy - Wealthy - WEALTHY - even if only for a moment

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

Yes, that is what we are taught. Is it meme? Somone is saying on MDRTalk.org that the US Education system was created like the Prussian system. The prussian system was to help create better soldiers or workers for the Industrial age.

So, maybe... we go to school and learn to be good workers and make money from some corporations some day. Certainly looks like the government wants us to work for corporation and prepare to work for corporation.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

I believe meme would be correct. The Public education system currently sucks - But - God help us if it ever goes completely corpoRAT. Current curriculum will become money is all you need and any way you can get money is ok - let everything else take care of itself - because - YOUR CONCERN should be in how to make money. Extra Credit Kids - if you have cash in actual coinage - what is a great way to shine it up?

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

If we tout a private school system as superior, more applicable to corporate work, service industry, and maybe even as a kind of training platform. We can sell the model and institute corporate school.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

For profit schools from the cradle to the grave - How Awesome.

Teacher: yes jimmy212 you have a question?

jimmy212: um yeah . . . I ...uh... I was wondering . . . . . pollution . . . poisoning . . . . death . . . due to....um...ah.................

Teacher: excellent question jimmt212. Umm . . heh . . I don't know. Lets see what the book says . . . . hmmmm . . . not referenced . . . the good news jimmy212 is it is not referenced in the book . . . So it obviously is not important or any sort of a concern. Was that helpful jimmey212? ( note for follow-up with parents - jimmey212 seems inordinately curious )

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

Jimmy212 ...we looked in the text and it says that we have pollution because the workers always drove these big cars before we outlawed them. Research indicates in 2013 that corporations don't really significantly add to pollution. Energy grids and industry provide all the abundance we enjoy as consumers, but on a per person basis the study indicates people are selfish - "IF" they are not regulated. They waste gasoline, heat, energy, and pollute through the long commutes from outside the city enterprise. That is why we made laws to keep people living within the city enterprise. We have a good government board of directors don't we?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

lol - ( note to follow-up with jimmy212 - hazards of curiosity not covered in the corpoRAT Book of Knowledge )

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

Soak coins in coca-cola.

Phosporic acid (paint stripper) is present in cola drinks.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Yep but don't soak em too long - or they be gone - delicious new addition to a soft drink - dissolved coinage - now there's a different way to get minerals - Hey?

1 point on the extra credit - looking for less destructive shininess for my hoard - um a hoard - I don't actually have one.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

Critique of the post is that Power by certain families is about more than money or big business. The Rockafellers, Bush Family, Cheney Family, Rumsfeld, Kissinger, ... Robert Rubin, Larry Summers, Alan Greenspan, Hank Paulson, Timothy Geithner, ... Eric Holder,

[-] 0 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 5 years ago

Government is economic at its core. But as Americans we are generally opposed to those who govern through self interest.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

Any clear people on your list of people that governed through self interest?

Almost by definition governing is working with many interests and picking the Interest or legacy issue to work on. Now Obama is working on his legacy project the Gun ban. Not sure how to define the specific group behind the Gun Ban, but they have been out there strong since before Reagan.

I figure the rule class benefits most from the Gun Ban. They want the USA to be more like China. There are many examples of Power in our last 3000 years that are well known. Roman power, Roman Land Owners are said to have killed Julius Ceaser since he was a populist (for the people). The Catholic Church might be an Example of Power for Wall Street.... They helped the Nazis, became wealthy, call the shots, make the policies, and they have the same dirty finances that Wall Street has today.

[-] 0 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 5 years ago

I think virtually all our present Congressmen govern through self interest.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

Yeah, Chris hedges thinks it is a corporate coup. he thinks there is no use in voting. He thinks it is all about protesting and that the movement won't be stopped by robo-cops or supression. But could take 10 years... Super Corporatism should go. Consumerism has to change since people are just using debt to buy things. There has to be some jobs, job training, job leadership, some actual production and manufactuing... have to stop the Corporations from stealing money from the treasury and ruining the dollar in the process.

[-] 1 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 5 years ago

Yea, I agree.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

Yep, all congressmen take gifts, lobby dollars, and compaign contributions ...and they want the money to keep flowing ... so they do favors in legislation.

I left out the ending of Lobbying with money in above list....