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Forum Post: Am I THREATEND here because I post facts and I have people harrasing my post instead of the other way around??????

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 29, 2011, 7:14 p.m. EST by Dutchess (499)
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Dutchess said 3 minutes ago at Nov. 29, 2011, 7:10 p.m. EST (delete)

Violations about what?

Showing people facts?

Its your informants that are harrassing my posts not the other way around.

I am printing this as we speak and I will go viral with it.

OCCUPYWALLSTREET said 26 minutes ago at Nov. 29, 2011, 6:47 p.m. EST (delete)

I am warning you now. Anymore violations and I will ban You! do you understand?

Information

Joined Nov. 16, 2011

This has to be a govt website.

Thanks but no thanks!

I will let it go viral on facebook!

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[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

Yer just blinded by the Paul. You do like to play the victim, even while calling others names.

If you step into the light, you'll be OK.

You'll see.

OccupyWallstreet!!!!!!!!!!

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[-] 3 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 12 years ago

you know lady i used to like your tenacity and conviction but now you sound like a victim. i go to all the posts and the ones that are most replied to make me want to go to them more. why do you believe you get to carve out a niche and call it yours. if you are going to call yourself a professional, be prepared to back it up and stop crying persecution.

[-] -1 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

You know what pal, I am not a victim. I asked a bloody question! And look at the responses!

I am bringing attention to it and see I am not alone.

this phenomena is highly troublesome and divide and conquer and infiltration are at the order of the day.

One close look at history and you know what I am talking about!

[-] 2 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 12 years ago

i guess when you don't pick sides, you don't feel persecuted. at least that has been my understanding. and yes history does tell us that once someone knows what side of the isle one hales, others who disagree with ones views, runs interference. it is all part of democratic warfare. it is a endurance course not for the faint of heart. who knows, maybe this will be the last generation that has to play this way. hale direct democracy. cheers!

[-] 1 points by origatomicapple (47) from Gift Lake, AB 12 years ago

People on this website are just a bunch of retards. They aren't the people down at the discussions and the ones who want change. They all will nit pick your post apart just to feel any satisfaction to themselves. Example kickinthenuts - thinks this is an American only movement. also richardgaytits - thinks war should be started again as soon as possible. To many idiots to count and to many admins removing peoples right to freedom of speech. Remove the trolls not the supporters.

[-] 0 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

One cannot claim to be the 99% and exclude the trolls. I think...no censorship is the best. It will prove if people are determined to stay and argue the issues instead of having this site hijacked.

[-] 1 points by origatomicapple (47) from Gift Lake, AB 12 years ago

Well currently the site seems to have to many rules to function properly to what OWS is demanding. They should be giving freedom of speech to everyone. But who knows this probably is a government website.

[-] -1 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 12 years ago

I disagree. OW has to be for its principles. OW is not forbidding you or anyone else to set up your own website or participate in one that shares your beliefs.

[-] 1 points by origatomicapple (47) from Gift Lake, AB 12 years ago

So you would rather split the movement into different places with different ideas rather than have a forum with real freedom of speech?

[-] 1 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 12 years ago

I guess it depends onhow you define "the movement". I'd keep out racist comments, harassment of individual posters and commenters, sexist propaganda, fascist propaganda, propaganda that defends the richest 1%'s interests in robbing the rest of us and setting us out to wars on their behalf.

[-] 1 points by origatomicapple (47) from Gift Lake, AB 12 years ago

Yes those are good reasons but they aren't part of OWS rules.

[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 12 years ago

This website has rules, though it doesn't police them as strictly as some would want.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/moderating-policies-will-be-reposted-somewhere-pro/

[-] 1 points by theCheat (85) 12 years ago

How can this web site have rules that govern free speech when all I read is that the occupiers have a right to free speech by taking over parks?

[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 12 years ago

Because the only way the bottom 99%'s agenda can be heard is by disruption.

[-] 3 points by pandoras (56) 12 years ago

Yes, don't worry. I got a message from the same asshole.

[-] -2 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

I am also posting the moderating policies. They are UNDEMOCRATIC! and outright hideous!

This is an FBI website! I am convinced!

[-] 4 points by pandoras (56) 12 years ago

LOL. Let's tone down the conspiracy theories.

[-] -1 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

conspiracy is an overly abused word. Its two people or more getting together planning something ILLEGAL!

[-] 3 points by barb (835) 12 years ago

I got the same message! I have written many responses in support of this movement so I was shocked that I might get banned. If this is the way they want to play, I no longer support OWS.

[-] 1 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

Its a setup for us to leave!

[-] 2 points by barb (835) 12 years ago

Wow, people are really threatened by this movement.

[-] 1 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

Not really. Just realistic when we get threatened for posting facts!

[-] 0 points by anonwolf (279) from West Peoria, IL 12 years ago

It is just another user PM-ing people in some anti-OWS divisive tactic. Fight back.

[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 12 years ago

Of course you know this is not the official OWS website to begin with.

This is:

http://www.nycga.net/

[-] 2 points by KVNLGN (154) 12 years ago

Is there any transparency on these OWS sites in terms of who has set them up ? There are some very good educational posts but also a lot of garbage without any organization or progress.

[-] 2 points by KVNLGN (154) 12 years ago

I am skeptical about these sites as I feel that government agencies could be gathering information. Probably a little paranoid but there are too many inefficiencies with this site to think it is legit anymore.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 12 years ago

You're not being paranoid at all. Government agencies are gathering information from the OWS sites. In fact, when you first sign on to this site there's a disclaimer of sorts that says don't share any information on this site that you wouldn't want the feds to see.

[-] 1 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 12 years ago

They have an "About" tab on top of the page. For what it's worth the site below was authorized by a General Assembly of the OWS movement.

http://www.nycga.net/

[-] 2 points by KVNLGN (154) 12 years ago

thanks

[-] 0 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 12 years ago

no, that site can't be the official one. It has only 6,000 members?

[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 12 years ago

As far as I know it's the site that was set up through a vote of a General Assembly. If one googles for "Occupy Wall Street" this one comes on top, because the people who own this website own the words "Occupy Wall Street."

[-] 1 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 12 years ago

yeah, I know adbusters owns this one, but they started occupy wall street and the north american movement. I think the NYGA is just the occupy camp in NY.
http://www.adbusters.org/blogs/adbusters-blog/occupywallstreet-update.html

That's the very beginning of the occupy movement. Interesting to see its start.

[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 12 years ago

So is "Occupy Wall Street" a Canadian magazine, or is it the people who built the Liberty Plaza occupation, got gassed and beaten, and continue to organize actions in the name of "#Occupy"?

[-] 1 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 12 years ago

hard to tell. seems everyone is and no one.

[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 12 years ago

Well some own the name and some do the work.

[-] 2 points by puff6962 (4052) 12 years ago

You're small fries.....why would anyone bother to notice you?

[-] -2 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

Lolllllll you noticed me the small fries ;)

[-] 4 points by XaiverBuchsIV (508) 12 years ago

But you are still a troll.

[-] -2 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

So are you. How about that ?

[-] -3 points by theaveng (602) 12 years ago

CAREFUL.

The mods have been known to make posters "invisible" when they don't like what that person says. The person can still post but his messages are not visible to anybody else.

Don't __ off the mods.

[-] 0 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

Well, who would want to be part of such a movement? That would be the intelligent question to ask. Or not necessarily the movement but a random website.

[-] -3 points by theaveng (602) 12 years ago

CAREFUL.

The mods have been known to make posters "invisible" when they don't like what that person says. The person can still post but his messages are not visible to anybody else.

Don't __ off the mods.

[-] 0 points by puff6962 (4052) 12 years ago

I have said some of the most offensive shit you can imagine and I have never been excised.

[-] 2 points by PeoplehaveDNA (305) 12 years ago

I got the same damn thing three minutes ago. Ironically they said my name was offensive to OWS. What the hell are they talking about. Is this a troll hacker that took over the Admin in OWS? I am sorry I have been posting for three months on this site and I never had this problem.

[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 12 years ago

I think malicious hackers have entered and are disrupting the website.

[-] 0 points by Puzzlin (2898) 12 years ago

The ring leader has been banned. The attack is over.

But, mark my words, they will try again!

[-] 2 points by PeoplehaveDNA (305) 12 years ago

Cool, thank you.

[-] 0 points by Puzzlin (2898) 12 years ago

No problem my friend. Enjoy!

[-] 1 points by TLydon007 (1278) 12 years ago

Still hasn't gone viral...

Can we get a link to your "viral" facebook page??

[-] 0 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

I am still here but If they block me I will post it on every occupy page.

[-] 1 points by TLydon007 (1278) 12 years ago

So by "viral", you just meant that you'll spam it all over the internet??

Not sure you understand what "viral" means.

[-] 0 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

sure I know what 'viral' means.

I 'll make a YT clip and document it so people can make up their minds on what this intimidation tactic is all about.

[-] 2 points by TLydon007 (1278) 12 years ago

All I see is a warning regarding terms and your claim that you didn't violate any terms under the generic claim that whatever you said(and suspiciously decided not to repost in this thread) was "facts". I also notice that you haven't been banned.

But what do I know?? Maybe everyone on the internet will make a giant leap of faith that not only is your claim valid regarding the site's moderator warning you, but that you are innocent of anything that preceded that warning, despite choosing not to repeat, exactly, what you said before that warning??

Go ahead and post that on Youtube.. I'm sure Sneezing Panda and Double Rainbow guy are terrified that your unsubstantiated claims (in the form of text on video) will surpass them.

[-] 0 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

excuse me?

I got a warning and nobody told me what it was about.

Maybe read the rest of the posts here and notice, I have been far from being the only one.

Of course this site and movement are heavily infiltrated. It won't be the first time or the last.

Now if it is infiltration, who carres but if it is actually OWS moderators, they are destroying this movement with dictatorial rules all the while silencing people.

btw, I documented it. Thats the only way to find out if we are intimidated by outsiders but again....I am still here but who knows about tomorrow!

[-] 1 points by TLydon007 (1278) 12 years ago

It's not "infiltration" or moderators..

It's a troll that discovered that this (official-looking) name wasn't taken.

"Joined Nov. 16, 2011"

This should have been your first hint.

"TLydon007 said 0 minutes ago at Nov. 30, 2011, 2:30 a.m. EST (delete) www.goatse.info"

I just messaged him this. If he is a mod, I'm pretty sure I just violated the terms and will be terminated promptly. In which case, I'll make another handle and get back to you. Otherwise, you're sweating over nothing.

[-] 1 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

Infiltration happens in the form of trolls.....

and I am not sweating.

I am bringing attention to these kind of intimidation tactics.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

"This content is user submitted and not an official statement " always double check.

[-] 1 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

how?

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

official statements don't have the disclaimer... if they pm you ask them ro prove who it is...

[-] 0 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

ok, thanks

[-] 1 points by ARod1993 (2420) 12 years ago

What exactly did you say that got you sent that message? I've posted a number of different opinions on a number of different issues, including serious questions about the legitimacy of the current Likud government in Israel and a number of rather caustic complaints against anarchists and communists in general (who appear to have been a part of the founding group on the website) and I have yet to be reprimanded, banned, or censored. What exactly have you been saying that got you those notifications?

[-] 0 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

I have no idea....

[-] 1 points by ARod1993 (2420) 12 years ago

Fair enough...

[-] 1 points by Puzzlin (2898) 12 years ago

This person is A Troll

They have no authority and they just want you and others to storm out of here.

This one corners you in a private chat to seemingly weld authority which is a complete fabrication!

It's getting horrid in here with these trolls. I have been warning it was going to escalate if it's not moderated. They are running amok here hurling insults and spewing Hate!!!

Ignore this one. It's all you can do for now. Maybe when the blowback from their horseplay begins bringing this site to it's kness someone will wake UP!!!

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 12 years ago

It's just a lame user posing as Occupy admin's. There's essentially no censorship on this website.

[-] 0 points by Windsofchange (1044) 12 years ago

Don't let the trolls bring you down. It just show desperation that they stooped this low pretending to be an OWS moderator. Feel pity for them.

[-] 0 points by rick1716 (14) 12 years ago

I agree, I am staying off this site, I dont trust it anymore, bye!

[-] 1 points by Puzzlin (2898) 12 years ago

You are a highly suspected troll as well. You can go, but everyone else read my above post.

They are attacking here. We are in a assault. Don't run. Fight this one!!!


[-] 1 points by barb (835) 12 years ago

Puzzlin, who do you think is behind this?

[-] 1 points by Puzzlin (2898) 12 years ago

There are several in here now. What happens is they come from another chat room where the attack is planned from. They get all their ducks in a row off-site and then move in a concerted action. I have seen it before and it can be quite effective. Some posters probably left already. It's a shock if don't understand what happened. They act as the Admin here and hit hard and fast. The only way to stop it is a quick moderator that takes them out. But, as you and I both know, they really aren't handling troll situation very well here.

This is the result. It can get worse than even this. Batten down the hatches!!!

Nice to see you here Barb!

THE PUZZLER

[-] 2 points by barb (835) 12 years ago

Nice to see you too! Thanks for the heads up.

[-] 1 points by Puzzlin (2898) 12 years ago

Not a problem. I think they were intercepted already. They've lost their punch. But they will likely try again!

Maybe the moderator has taken this as a warning shot, a test to see the defenses. I hope so. They can be held off if they're quick.

Thanks Barb!

[-] 2 points by barb (835) 12 years ago

I have never seen a forum under so much attack like this one. The moderators should try to do something about it now since it is probably going to get much worst.

Maybe they should put a banner at the top that says, "Warning, due to the sensitive nature of this forum's subject matter, your freedom to speak in support of OWS will be met with resistance from those that do not want you to know the truth and will do anything possible to intimidate you or give you the wrong impression of OWS."

[-] 1 points by Puzzlin (2898) 12 years ago

Good idea. It really is why there needs to be structure here that encourages good clean debate, not this trash we've been getting. These troll types are not worth the time to any of us, they just drain good vibrant energy from us which is just a general waste. It's really a shame to see it.

I'm hoping that will see error in their open ways. We should demand respect. Condoning bad behavior here encourages real bad behavior out in the real world. Most know how cruel that world is. Well, they been given a free pass in here. Maybe the peak time of fun is over. We can hope!

Thanks Barb!

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 12 years ago

Thanks for bringing this to people's attention. A lot of people, myself included, aren't as web savvy as others. Posing as an admin and PMing people would be a very sneaky and effective tactic, easily missed by the more naive (web-wise) among us. By the way, how do you guys get your comments bolded and/or italicized?

[-] 0 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

The govt? FBI?

[-] 1 points by PeoplehaveDNA (305) 12 years ago

Yup!

[-] 1 points by Puzzlin (2898) 12 years ago

Dutchess,

Who are you?

A troll?

[-] 0 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

No, I am posting my opinion but if you are informed...this movement has got to be infiltrated and divide and conquer is the oldest technique on the books for govt to keep people divided.

[-] 1 points by Puzzlin (2898) 12 years ago

These are the trolls, not govt. They have been festering here!!!

[-] 0 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

but the govt has an interest in stopping anything dissenting. If you had paid close attention to civil liberties etc you would understand. Homeland security is no joke.

[-] 0 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

Yep......

Intimidation! Threatening!

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

Kinda like Pawn Paul.

[-] -1 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

you are sure obsessed......wait till your civil liberties are gone. They'll make women have abortions like in China!

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

Reagan already took them.

My daughter is going to China next year.

I'll let you know how it goes, if I still can.

[-] 1 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

Reagan conned the country.

As for China, its currently on the books for Chinese citizens. I doubt your daughter is Chinese or is she?