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Forum Post: ALEC cashes in on our kids!!

Posted 6 years ago on July 18, 2013, 10:54 a.m. EST by shoozTroll (17632)
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While you were distracted, ALEC was still very much on point.

Destroying Democracy, one State at a time.

Despite widespread public opposition to the education privatization agenda, at least 139 bills or state budget provisions reflecting American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) education bills have been introduced in 43 states and the District of Columbia in just the first six months of 2013, according to an analysis by the Center for Media and Democracy, publishers of ALECexposed.org. Thirty-one have become law.




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[-] 3 points by Ache4Change (3340) 6 years ago

'ALEC & The NRA Have Blood On Their Hands' - http://www.nationofchange.org/alec-and-nra-have-blood-their-hands-1374587112 from which -

'Contrary to claims that it had nothing to do with the Zimmerman verdict, Florida’s “stand your ground” law relates directly to both the murder of Trayvon Martin, and the acquittal of Zimmerman for Martin’s murder.'

'How many people have died because ALEC and the NRA have made it easier for more people to get guns, legal for more people to carry concealed weapons in more places, and easier to “shoot first and ask question later”? Will ALEC and the NRA ever be held accountable?'

So 'ALEC cashes in on our kids' AND facilitates their murder and incarceration.

Never Give Up Exposing The Douchebags! Occupy The Issues!

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

ALEC/Koch Castle laws had everything to do with it.

They just didn't use it as a defense.

[-] 4 points by Ache4Change (3340) 6 years ago

The Finance Industry and FIRE sector are major ALEC constituents, so forgive the tangent but it's appropriate to draw your attention to this important article - http://www.nationofchange.org/edward-snowden-and-financial-speculation-taxes-1374586874 and for an excellent ALEC resource link, see - http://www.nationofchange.org/topics/company/alec . Never Give Up The Fight! Occupy The Agenda!

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

At least 117 bills introduced in 2013 fuel a "race to the bottom" in wages, benefits, and worker rights and resemble "model" bills from the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), according to a new analysis by the Center for Media and Democracy (CMD), publishers of ALECexposed.org.


While the Koch's spend millions to convince people that lower wages are the answer.

[-] 3 points by Ache4Change (3340) 6 years ago

'As working Americans speak out for higher wages, better benefits, and respect in the workplace, a coordinated, nationwide campaign to silence them is mounting -- and ALEC is at the heart of it. ALEC corporations, right-wing think tanks, and monied interests like the Koch brothers are pushing legislation throughout the country designed to drive down wages; limit health care, pensions, and other benefits; and cripple working families' participation in the political and legislative process.'

'ALEC has been a historic force in suppressing wages and workers' rights and continues to exert its influence in states across the country in 2013. Where is the bottom in ALEC's race to the bottom for America's workers?' Excerpted from your very strong link and also for information -

http://www.nationofchange.org/nc-senators-force-alec-bill-through-committee-without-even-counting-votes-1367505457 &


Never Give Up Exposing The Corporate Take Over Of The USA! Occupy Resistance And Solidarity.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Our resident wingers won't be commenting, unless it's to deflect ALEC's actions or insult us.

Next up on ALEC's list, is to end telephone landlines.


Perhaps beause a warrant is still needed to listen in?

[-] 4 points by Ache4Change (3340) 6 years ago

'ALEC’s Regulatory Modernization Act ( http://www.alec.org/model-legislation/regulatory-modernization-act/ ), which allows service providers to elect whether or not they would like to partake in state regulation, which is a little like asking students to elect whether or not they would like to partake in homework. The bill was approved by ALEC’s board of directors in 2009. In the ensuing three years, according to a 2010-2012 “Telecommunications Deregulation” report issued by the National Regulatory Research Institute (NRRI), more than 30 states have considered and/or passed laws eliminating or restricting government oversight and basic service requirements. Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina and Wisconsin are just a few to have passed deregulation legislation in the past three years. In each of these states, AT&T is a primary service provider. And in each of these states, a confirmed ALEC member was responsible for introducing the bill.'

'ALEC publicly endorsed AT&T’s petition this year ( http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7022125011 ), submitting public comments to the FCC, which read, in part, that it “believes public policy should become neutral with respect to existing and emerging business models and technologies in the burgeoning broadband ecosystem. Moreover, policy responses should seek to preserve organic market forces and not attempt to replace them with regulatory fiat.” Translation: companies should have the right to do what they want in pursuit of profits. The problem with that, as Jessica Gonzalez, vice president of policy and legal affairs at The National Hispanic Media Coalition told The Nation magazine, is that “it is often the underserved and hardest to reach that are left out when profit maximization is the only consideration driving investment decisions.”'

'In May, the FCC granted AT&T’s petition. It will begin to “move forward with real-world trials” — promoting the transition from wireline to wireless services – shortly. As for those who will be left with no phone or Internet service? One supposes they’ll just have to write their congressperson, the old-fashioned way. They certainly won’t be able to call and complain.'

I excerpt the paragraphs above from your important link. States should be fighting to ensure that their citizens have access to all important modern services but of course they too have been compromised due to facts such as these - http://www.nationofchange.org/united-states-alec-privatizing-america-one-statehouse-time-1371908974 .

Never Give Up Fighting ALEC! Occupy State Capitols! Reoccupy Our Failing Democracy! Solidarity.

[-] 1 points by forourfutures (393) 6 years ago

Ah oh. Science has not shown that much RF does not alter cell structures over time, The industry has not been accountable to this issue in the 20+years of cell phones etc.

[-] 3 points by Ache4Change (3340) 6 years ago

I take your point re. RF but these days we live in an electro-magnetic radiation soup almost wherever we are and especially in the built environment. Cell phone usage facilitates ever more surveillance and every cell phone is a tracking device. There's really no getting away from these truths and I just replied to you elsewhere, lol & so, also please do see - http://www.nationofchange.org/julian-assange-release-verizon-order-shows-unauthorized-leaks-force-gov-t-transparency-1375284576 .

Never Give Up On Democracy! Occupy Transparency! Solidarity.

[-] 2 points by forourfutures (393) 6 years ago

The EPA should be providing some data as far as health effects for the RF generating devices corporations manufacture for our use. If they arn't it is another evil deed of the governmental infiltration.

[-] 4 points by Ache4Change (3340) 6 years ago

The EPA is under siege, afraid and captured by corporate interests now. For example, with reference to fracking, see - http://www.nationofchange.org/la-times-epa-censored-key-pennsylvania-fracking-water-contamination-study-1375192385 . Never Give Up Resisting Corporate Control! Occupy The Issues!

[-] 2 points by forourfutures (393) 6 years ago

The BP gulf leak was under GATT, but no one talked about why the EPA "asked" BP to not spray corexit. They lost their authority when foreign corporations operated and did business with US corporations.

[-] 3 points by Ache4Change (3340) 6 years ago

Halliburton is heavily implicated in the gulf leak but any prospect of their also being held to account is slim for reasons such as these - http://www.nationofchange.org/dirty-hands-77-alec-bills-2013-advance-big-oil-big-ag-agenda-1375454111 and http://www.nationofchange.org/koch-and-halliburton-use-revolving-door-lobby-against-regulating-carbon-pollution-1375453643 Our Economy, Government and Society has been taken over by Corporations. Never Give Up Stating The Obvious! Occupy The Clear Truth! Solidarity

[-] 2 points by forourfutures (393) 6 years ago

Yep, nation states usurped by GATT. Which is why there is so much effort against Artlcle V. GATT & NAFTA are unconstitutional and could be rescinded. The cognitive infiltration against us has 3 priorities. 9-11, Stopping effective mental health care and Article V.

[-] 2 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 6 years ago

NAFTA and especially that latest version of GATT are two pieces of legislation that should have led to an immediate removal of any who voted for it.

"Dear people, we are shipping your jobs out of the country."

And the people cheered on the sidelines as they all left. What in the hell.

[-] 1 points by forourfutures (393) 6 years ago

BP attitude suks. But the issue of the EPA having no authority when GATT controls the operation needs to be known. These WTO treaties are responsible for mass environmental destruction.

[-] 2 points by Ache4Change (3340) 6 years ago

What you're basically saying is that nation states have been usurped by GATT, The IMF and The World Bank. In which case the globalisation of 'The New World Order' is here! I guess that no one remembered to tell the citizens of so called 'independent countries'. I think that you will like this piece and it is part 1/9 - http://www.nationofchange.org/global-power-project-part-1-exposing-transnational-capitalist-class-1371217943 - Never Give Up Looking Behind Appearances And Facades! Occupy Reality! Solidarity.

[-] 1 points by forourfutures (393) 6 years ago

The point is that all of those corporations are doing business with a foreign corp. Under GATT the are only legally accountable to a tribunal of world court judges.

NOBODY in media or elsewhere has brought that up where the people can see it.

[-] 1 points by Ache4Change (3340) 6 years ago

Continuing to send millions of dollars to people who claim they were hurt by the 2010 disaster is “not good for America'' - says BP Chairman, from - http://www.nationofchange.org/bp-ceo-says-he-s-done-paying-deepwater-horizon-disaster-1376059258 . Never Give Up Trying To Hold Polluters To Account! Occupy The Environment! Solidarity.

[-] 1 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 6 years ago

I worked a life-time in the marine petroleum transportation business

While most of the time our transfers were done through hoses connected to pipelines at the terminals,

We did take ballast over-head into tanks at times, hence i know how fast that water came out of that 6-8"hose when you had an 871 Detroit Diesel engine driving a pump

I saw the under-water pictures of that well gushing oil, and beyond a doubt i know that...that well was spewing oil far more profusely than what they claimed

And where did all that oil go? Dispersants sent it to the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico where it will linger and pollute for years until nature eventually runs its course


[-] 1 points by Ache4Change (3340) 6 years ago

You have real insights into this matter. Thanks for sharing. Also fyi - http://www.nationofchange.org/bp-ceo-says-he-s-done-paying-deepwater-horizon-disaster-1376059258 from which - 'The BP CEO is perplexed as to why Americans perceive the oil industry badly. This negative perception might have something to do with receiving billion-dollar subsidies for a highly profitable industry that charges high gas prices. BP claims it pays too much in taxes, despite receiving an annual $300 million in estimated tax breaks on top of a $12 billion profit last year.'

Also see - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWKx0PS3wDw for some deeper insights.

Never Give Up Exposing The Corporate Predators! Occupy The Real Issues! Solidarity.

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

It might be this "bill" or it might another, but buried deep inside, is also "class action" tort reform. As in they become almost completely un-suable.

Another ALEC bill..........that.........wait for it.

Destroys Democracy, one State at a time.

[-] 2 points by Ache4Change (3340) 6 years ago

That's a very good but sad and dangerous point. US democracy is under attack - 'One State At A Time' - http://www.nationofchange.org/blogs/michael-matthew-bloomer/without-single-democratic-vote-north-carolinas-house-passes-voter-supp . Voter suppression is essential for ALEC's slow motion coup d'etat and I read about The Lewis Powell Memo here recently. People should find out more about that and this - http://www.nationofchange.org/welcome-network-global-corporate-control-1359643763 . Never Give Up!

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

As I've been trying to explain, with limited success.

Libe(R)tarianism, ( Randian style ), had gone WorldWide.

It is at the root of the fight.

[-] 5 points by Ache4Change (3340) 6 years ago

ALEC; 'Citizens United'; The Powell Memo; Koch funded 'stink tanks'; etc. etc. etc. are waging war on Americans and Global Citizens since Reagan or even Nixon or even before that. Ayn Rand was an evil bitch by ANY normal, societal, universal or human standard.Somehow she's revered by some. Just like Machiavelli! The huge trick has been in getting Americans to vote against their own best interests for so long now and this above all things shows just what a malleable joke, modern democracies have become - just as Paul Weyrich knew - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw . Never Give Up Trying To Expose These Scum! Occupy Democracy And Solidarity! Eisenhower's valedictory speech echoes!!

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 6 years ago

everyone else is working and have less time for entertainment

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago


You found a new job!!

I hope it pays you well.............................:)

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 6 years ago

It should I subsist on $10 k currently but that's not traveling or nothing

[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 6 years ago
[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago


Where dumber people mean ........Higher profits.


[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

A is for ALEC

A follow up, on this continuing destruction.


From the article, a quote from Rupert Murdock.

Yes that one.

"Rupert Murdoch, CEO of NewsCorp, has reportedly called public education “a $500 billion sector in the U.S. alone that is waiting desperately to be transformed.” Brendan Fischer, author of the Center for Media and Democracy’s special report, said that the transformation “of public education — from an institution that serves the public into one that serves private for-profit interests — has been in progress for decades, thanks in large part to ALEC.”

What the hell does Rupert think he knows about education?



[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

ALEC vs. Kids.

It's still going on.

It's still based on lies.

It's still destructive.



[-] -2 points by TikiJ (-38) 6 years ago

Scott just passed 150 more laws, many from ALEC.

They deregulated the energy industry like Duke and TECO, and further regulated the small business people and individuals.

Less freedom, more rules, less money and more taxes.

Common Core (dumbing down) continues to move forward.

Drones in the air, drones crashing in the ground.

Rights taken away, rights being limited.

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Yeah, so who cares about education. Give 'em their coupons and tell 'em to sit down and shut up.

You like what ALEC does anyway, or think it doesn't make any difference.



Destroying Democracy, one State at a time.

[-] 1 points by forourfutures (393) 6 years ago

Does ALEC lack constitutional intent?

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

ALEC's intent, is to destroy anything, in any constitution that stands in the way of their "client's" charitable desires.

They're pretty good at it too.

[-] 1 points by forourfutures (393) 6 years ago

That means "no" which indicates they work to overthrow constitutional government. There's a name for that.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

The GOP and it's libe(R)tarian supporters.

[-] 0 points by forourfutures (393) 6 years ago

Impeach ALEC. Anybody who knows how bad they are will love a way to remove their credibility as constitutional Americans.

I saw a very advanced, socially speaking, method of going after them.


[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Sorry, but I'm not falling into your art5 trick bag again.

It's not advanced, it's just another trick bag.

Another way to ignore commenting on actual issues.

There's already enough of that around here.

[-] -1 points by forourfutures (393) 6 years ago

Another trick of the people to use their unity to hold the authority needed to effect issues. I guess stopping ALEC is a low priority.

BTW I'm sure ALEC would love what you posted.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Not so much as a rudimentary comment on the topic of the thread.

I would have to guess ALEC loves your comment even more, as it is issue free.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 6 years ago

the democrats and republicans do not disagree that everybody should be put to work if they are to have value

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

It's their inner libe(R)tarian.

[-] 0 points by forourfutures (393) 6 years ago

ALEC would love that you omitted the issue of constitutional intent, and it was first mentioned. Omission of that defends their agenda by keeping it obscure.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

It's a very stupid trick bag.

Thanks for proving it out.

[-] 0 points by forourfutures (393) 6 years ago

Nope, treason. But yes, all of the parties are doing it.

With each it manifests a little differently with one elite power or another coming out on top.

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Treason was rendered legal by the GOP in response to the Nixon "issue".

Show me please where the liberals are doing what the GOP is doing for ALEC in Michigan.

Snyder began dismantling the State and national constitutions within weeks of taking office.

Show me, or stop stating the ridiculous.

[-] 0 points by forourfutures (393) 6 years ago

ALEC is but one facet of conglomerates and actually is a tool of elites probably operating exactly from where you say.

It's a "leaf, twig, branch, trunk, root kind of structure. ALEC is branch, but social with big government ties.

[-] -3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Have fun with your trick bag.

It's meaningless and fact and issue free.

How convenient for you.

[-] 0 points by forourfutures (393) 6 years ago

Constitutional bag of tricks? Bag of facts instead of distractive social hype that has no effect other than convincing the public that ows is a confused mislead mass.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Perhaps if you unconfused your mess?

[-] -2 points by TikiJ (-38) 6 years ago

"You like what ALEC does anyway, or think it doesn't make any difference."

Did you not read my response to your article?

[-] 0 points by forourfutures (393) 6 years ago

May have missed them. What article?

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

it was a non response.

Speaking directly with you tends to lead to insults, so I will provide some links for you to ignore.

You HATE Obamcare, just like the Kock's. ( they LOVE ALEC)

But you don't know shit.


You have commented on how voter suppression schemes, by the GOP are a non issue. But they are.


Your complete lack of empathy for Travon has become as legendary as your lack of proof of almost everything you say.

But the Occupation continues to grow.


Your desire is for every State to be as cruel as Florida.


ALEC, isn't done yet, they just refried Florida. they have many more States to go.


ALEC, destroying democracy, one State at a time.

[-] -1 points by TikiJ (-38) 6 years ago

haha man you really have some deep seeded issues to work out.

You vote for these scum, not us.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

Just another attempt at insult from you, all the while ignoring all the info in the links.

Is that all you're good for?

[-] -1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 6 years ago

Some day you'll learn, TJ. Some day you'll learn. ;-)