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Forum Post: AGENTS PROVOCATEURS posing today as the "Oakland Liberation Front"???

Posted 8 years ago on Nov. 2, 2011, 1:30 p.m. EST by TIOUAISE (2526)
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The "Oakland Tribune" published this morning an article on the city-wide general strike which may bring thousands to downtown Oakland.

The last two paragraphs tell me that there are rogue elements in Occupy Oakland or "AGENTS PROVOCATEURS" who may do untold harm to the "Occupy" Movement as a whole :

"Some demonstrators, calling themselves the Oakland Liberation Front, have distributed fliers condemning pacifism and calling for "the complete annihilation of capitalism." "Are you a pacifist?" the flier headline says. It goes on, "How dare you even ask for nonviolence, when violence has already been used by the police?"

This call to violence is madness and would NOT serve the Movement at all but, on the contrary, only play ito the hands of the 1%!!!!!!!!!

DON'T FALL FOR THIS, OWS!!! This is an obvious PLOY. Please condemn in the strongest possible terms this phony group and tell the media that they have NOTHING to do with OWS.

NOTE : The full text of the article may be found here :




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[-] 3 points by victimkitlives (3) 7 years ago

time is the only thing that has proven that the OLF was a bullshit false flag operation. one day of action, then nothing.

never seen or heard from since. does that not strike anyone as odd? why would "revolutionaries" only spend half of an afternoon drawing on a whole foods? what was taken? what was proven? nothing.

[-] 2 points by TheGiops (3) from Roseville, CA 8 years ago

It's an old strategy. Used last in Rome, on October 15th, where police infiltrated the demonstrators and turned the whole thing violent. Bad bad bad. And, when I think that the strategy is explained in detail by a fromer Italian Preasident, it makes me feel sick. http://99vs1.wordpress.com/2011/10/16/the-strategy-of-francesco-cossiga/

[-] 2 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 8 years ago

To quote "BreadLandPeace"'s very important response on another Oakland post :

"This is exactly what happened 40 years ago in the socialist revolutionary and antiwar movements, attempts to turn the movement violent. These extremists were often FBI and police agents who wanted to destroy the movement. That's why the group I was in continued to fight for for legal, peaceful mobilizations against the war in Vietnam, because millions could join a peaceful movement but wouldn't risk arrest or getting caught in violent confrontations. It was those mass mobilizations along with the heroic Vietnamese struggle that finally ended the war.

A successful lawsuit against COINTELPRO, a government covert program against the left and anyone who made a so much as a peep against inequality,forced the government to end lot of the infiltrations, which had gone on for DECADES, although not all. Although some genuine activists then and now, who support the cause of working people, don't understand why we have to involve the majority, the 99%, by calling for violence they'll only succeed in isolating the movement. Also, they'll confuse people about the real cause of violence in our society. Violence is evicting people from their homes; dumping them from their jobs; stealing education and hospital funds through budget cuts; no safe, affordable childcare and eldercare, and all the other inequities we are protesting.

Please keep up the great work!"

[-] -1 points by FREEDOMRING1 (0) 8 years ago

So you are a socialist? Wonderful! Not only are you stupid you also dont read history. Dont bother replying I am sure you will just spout the same crap like socialism has never been fully implemented. Yada yada yada. Either way socialism communism marxism always fails. AS SOON AS THIS MOVEMENT EXPELS THE MARXISTS, SOCIALISTS COMMUNISTS THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL IT SUCCEED! GET IT!

[-] 1 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 8 years ago

Sorry to disappoint you and mess up your tidy cliches, "FREEDOMRING1 ", but I am neither a Marxist, a communist or a socialist. In fact - take a deep breath and hold... hold - I used to correspond with Soviet dissidents such as Andrei Sakharov... ok, you can breathe now.

So what am I then? I am a "Christic" - NOT a Christian - which means that I aspire to walk and dance and sing with Jesus, and that I share his focus on social justice. And also I am a proud patriot : "I believe in the United States of America, as a government of the people, by the people, for the people; whose just powers are derived from the consent of the governed (...)".

I will accept an apology for your gratuitous and slanderous comment : "Not only are you stupid you also dont read history."

[-] 1 points by ancientmariner (275) 8 years ago

The NYNGA must reject violence, or movement will be smahed! If not we must dump NYNGA!

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

go to their forum and let them know

[-] 1 points by 415raechill (0) from San Francisco, CA 8 years ago

Occupy Oakland has worked on this for over a week, but the PR from the Tribune in an obvious effort to clear OO's name is just awesome.

[-] 1 points by dthompson (79) from New York, NY 8 years ago

why don't they just prevent people in masks from marching with them?

[-] 0 points by seaglass (671) from Brigantine, NJ 8 years ago

I've been saying that for weeks!

[-] 1 points by FREEDOMRING1 (0) 8 years ago

Agent provocateurs are FBI agents? You guys are going to stick with that one? Such a joke. You are obviously a propagandist or just plain stupid.

[-] 1 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 8 years ago

You're really stuck on the word "stupid", aren't you? Don't you have a dictionary of synonyms or thesaurus of some kind? If you're going to insult people, at least show a little creativity and savoir-faire :

Here, lemme help you with synonyms : "senseless, brainless, idiotic, simple, ignorant, shallow, ill-advised, imprudent, witless, irrational, inane, ridiculous, mindless, ludicrous, blind, muddled, absurd, half-witted, funny, comical, silly, laughable, nonsensical, daft, illogical, indiscreet, unintelligent, irresponsible, coquettish, shallow-brained, scatterbrained, crackbrained, addled, inconsistent, flirting, unwary, incautious, misguided, wild, injudicious, imbecile, addleheaded, lunatic, insane, mad, crazy, moronic, touched, freakish, comic, puerile, inexpedient, narrow-minded, incoherent, childish, anile, senile, monstrous, outrageous, far-fetched, extravagant, preposterous, unreasonable, chimerical, asinine, useless, unwise, thoughtless, careless, vain, fatuous, light, light-headed, flighty, madcap, giddy, cuckoo, dippy, not seeking for looking, boneheaded, goofy, cracked, dumb, half-baked, in the dark, having a block for a head, not knowing what's what, in darkness, dead to the world, in a daze, knowing nothing, groping in the dark, green, wacky, harebrained, tetched, damn-fool, block-headed, not seeing an inch beyond one's nose, screwy, bats, cock-eyed, loony, batty, nutty".

There, you're all set now, "FREEDOMRING1" : you can insult people to your heart's delight AND without sounding like a "half-witted" parrot. :)

[-] 1 points by HitGirl (2263) 8 years ago

Totally possible.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8708) 8 years ago

Well, I think we know the origin of the violence in Oakland. This truth must be impressed upon the media so that they will have no excuse for buying into the spin.

[-] 1 points by kestrel (274) 8 years ago

read some on the recent history of Oakland and you will see that this is nothing new.

[-] 1 points by hairlessOrphan (522) 8 years ago

You don't have any more authority than they do to make declarations supporting or denouncing this. Get it? This is the cost of your headlessness. Too bad; you own it.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 8 years ago

It's sounds eerily similar in name and strategy to the "Front de libération du Québec" which was an anarchist group active during the 60's in Québec, Canada. They were against their 1% and went as far as to bomb the Montréal Stock Exchange in 1969, kidnap the British Trade Commissioner James Cross, and kidnap and kill the Labour Minister Pierre Laporte. There last known crime was committed in 1993, when a statue of Canada's first prime minister was decapitated.

Considering OWS is heavily influenced by the socialist political scene in Canada, I wouldn't be surprised if there is strong connection with the FLQ, perhaps not directly, but it most likely serves as an inspiration the the anarchists in OWS. In any case, I would investigate this a bit further and keep a close eye on this Oakland Liberation Front.


[-] -1 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 8 years ago

Agree. I suspect ALL of those extremist groups are infiltrated and PACKED with "agents provocateurs".

[-] -2 points by Jimboiam (812) 8 years ago

Don't you understand that it is the radicals behind this movement are the ones who really want that? The Bill Ayers type people. Rules for Radicals is all about justifying violence.