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Forum Post: Afghanistan: America's "Total Lie War" : What Has Been Done To Our Troops?!

Posted 8 years ago on Sept. 5, 2012, 7:07 p.m. EST by Renneye (3874)
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This is the despicable dark underbelly of war. While we whittle away at social issues here, 'they' continue as though its business as usual.

I propose to you that the machinations of global dominance and so-called meddling go far deeper and are perpetrated by far darker public characters than most of us would want to admit...and the US is just as involved. Perhaps the worst of the bunch.

War has rarely been for the sake of freedom and sovereignty like we are led to believe through MSM, and soldiers are lied to and conditioned to fight for.


This is a startling article from Veterans Today.


America’s Special Envoy, the “now dead” Richard Holbrooke is the one responsible for certifying the narcotics production effort as central to US policy. It received key Republican support in Congress, and made war in Afghanistan possible forever. Why?

Colonel Eugene Khrushchev, former First Secretary of both the Soviet and Russian embassies in Kabul, an editor of Veterans Today and longtime friend calls Holbrooke one of the world’s biggest “drug kingpins.”

There are more American names involved including two American senators up to their necks in the Afghan drug business, from the “money laundering” end, making use of thousands of secret bank accounts in the Cayman Islands, Switzerland and elsewhere. Any of this sound familiar?

Afghanistan doesn’t export opium paste anymore.

Key Americans, many elected officials, some military, aided by foreign intelligence services, India, Britain, Canada and Germany have built the world’s heroin processing industry there.

Shipping is handled by the Northern Alliance, for the local market, Afghanistan is a nation of addicts now, and the massive Russian market.

Europe is handled out of two bases, Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo, where the US flies heroin and turns it over to the Kosovo/Albanian mafia for distribution and to Belgium, where it is distributed for Northern Europe.

Much goes directly to the United States via long range drones of the private air force of CIA contracting companies, shipped as “rendition prisoners.”

Full Article...




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[-] 6 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 8 years ago

"The US must cease and desist all WAR activity"


[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 months ago

Afghanistan War Exposed: An Imperial Conspiracy" by 'Empire Files':

Note as "Abby Martin uncovers the facts about the war on Afghanistan, from the CIA construct of the 80's through today's senseless stalemate. Two decades, three administrations, tens of thousands of lives; it's time to #EndTheForeverWar ."

fiat lux; fiat justitia; fiat pax ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 weeks ago

"CIA’s Addiction to Afghanistan War", by Finian Cunningham:

fiat lux; fiat justitia; fiat pax ...

[-] 5 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

With reference to Afghanistan - "Graveyard of Empires" but alas also an early grave for so many of its long suffering people, I re-post the following points and observations :

1) Afghanistan is a multi-ethnic country, made up of Aimaks, Baluchis, Hazaras, Kazahks, Kirghis, Pamiris, Tajhiks, Turkmen, Uzbeks and at ~42% of the total population, the largest single group, the Pashtuns / Pukhtoons (- dependent on Northern or Southern dialects).

2) The historical Pashtun homeland is divided in two by the Afghan / Pakistan border. This porous "border" is in effect the old "Durand Line", the de facto western territorial limit of the British Empire in the Indian subcontinent. The Pashtuns have NEVER recognised this arbitrary line on someone else's map and no external power or authority has ever been able to define it, let alone patrol or police it.

3) Pashtun society is extremely conservative, deeply traditional, unrelentingly patriarchal and tribal. The Women lead difficult lives far removed from any "Liberal Western Norms". A Pashtun is a member of a family group, a sub-clan, a clan and then a tribe. At over 45 million people globally, they are the world's largest tribally affiliated ethnic group.

4) Conservative Sunni Islam (tho' there is one Shia Tribe) and the Lex Talionis, Pre-Islamic honour code "Pashtunwalli", are the law, organisational guidelines and ethical principles by which this proud, fiercely independent and hardy mountain people regulate their society alongside and within their 'Jirga / Shura / Majlis', collective gathering and decision making systems.

5) The phrase "Revenge is a dish best served cold", is the English approximation and appropriation of the Pashtun original. Another Pashtun dictum is: "Me against my brothers; me and my brothers against my cousins; me, my brothers and my cousins against the world". Pashtun males are considered adult at 13 years of age and are honour bound to defend "Zan, Zhar, Zamin" - Women, Wealth and Land. Notions of loyalty and duty to kith and kin, honour, respect, shame, "not losing face" and "dying on one's feet rather than living on one's knees" are central to their world view and modus vivendi.

6) The word "Taliban" simply translates as "Students", as they were originally recruited, equipped and organised with the enthusiastic help, encouragement and funding of the Saudis, ISI, MI6 & CIA from the Madrasas (religious schools) in the numerous Pashtun refugee camps, during and after the war to oust the Soviet armed forces and the devastating civil war that followed it. Their grandfathers and fathers were then of course, known and eulogised as the Anti-Communist "Mujahideen". The word "Taliban" is now nothing other than a obfuscatory, propagandist and subversive "meme" for what is in actuality, under various names and guises - 'The Pashtun National Resistance Movement'.

7) The peoples of present day Afghanistan, whether Pashtun or otherwise, are the time served world champions of guerilla warfare and insurgency. No army or empire has ever been able to totally defeat, dominate or subjugate them. (Alexander the Great's) Greek, Scythian, Hepthalite, Bactrian, Persian, Mongol, Arab, Turkic, British and Russian armies have all been severely mauled and bloodied at some time or other and have had to retreat, pay tribute to or come to an accommodation with, these fierce and warlike peoples.

8) The Americans - despite their Massive Military Superiority, are the latest to learn these same painful lessons. This time however, the whole world is (quite intentionally?) further driven towards a "Clash of Civilisations", as advocated by Samuel Huntington, Benny Morris, William Safire, Thomas Friedman, Charles Krauthammer, Donald, Robert & Fred Kagan, Norman & John Podhoretz, Richard & Daniel Pipes, Bill Kristol, Richard Perle , Paul Bremer & many Neo-Con ; Paeo-Imperialist others.

9) This PNAC / NeoCon ambition, aspiration and world view stimulates and is mirrored by (as predicted by 'The Probability Gamers' in Herzliya and Langley!) the grand "End Time" schematic of a few thousand Jihadis worldwide, whose fanaticism and fury ; rage and resistance is fuelled, stoked and provoked by the Scientific Uber-Violence and Imperial Jackboot of the "Coalition of the Complicit", under the aegis and "Blood Spattered Banner of the Usurped States of Amnesiacs".

10) What the Warmongering US, "National Security" / Military / Industrial / Corporate / Banking cliques did NOT seem to know of the Buddhist Vietnamese - in that they were a fiercely independent people, who had fought the Mongol, Khmer, Chinese, Japanese and French Imperiums before they defeated the USA - so do they NOW seem NOT to know of the Muslim Afghans.

~ Thus consider, perhaps an Unending War is just what is Really Wanted by the Dark Forces of the 'Bankster-US/MIC' Nexus. After all, 9/!! was the declared raison d'etre for the Illegal and Immoral War on Afghanistan but as that attack clearly had nothing to do with Afghans or Afghanistan, then ... ?

~ Empire and 'WARFARE' abroad and austerity and 'UNFAIR' at home - this hate, horror, hubris and hypocrisy just can NOT go on and on !!!

fiat lux ; fiat pax ; fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

~ Thus consider, perhaps an Unending War is just what is Really Wanted by the Dark Forces of the 'Bankster-US/MIC' Nexus. After all, 9/!! was the declared raison d'etre for the Illegal and Immoral War on Afghanistan but as that attack clearly had nothing to do with Afghans or Afghanistan, then ... ?

911 was an attack on the world trade center and the pentagon

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

Yes Matt and the consequences of that fateful day are still being visited upon innocent people in a desperately poor country half a world away, whose primary crime seems to be that they will not bow down to The Empire.

fiat lux ...

[-] 0 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

"Convenient Myths And Liberal Imperialism - The Liberal Way to Run the World : 'Improve' or We’ll Kill You", by John Pilger :

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by Renneye (3874) 8 years ago

Wow! What a rich compilation of very important information. Not one wasted or unnecessary word.

The perfect spot for this repost.

The MSM is the key isn't it?! The world would know and our young would be educated on this information if the bloody MSM weren't so dammed monopolized.

Occupy the MSM!!!

[-] 7 points by rayolite (461) 8 years ago

Ocupy the MSM permanently through Article V and preparatory amendment assuring the people are the "rightful masters of the congress and the courts".

1)End the abridging of free speech

2)Campaign finance reform (rev. citizens united)

3)Secure the vote (the diebold issue)

All citizens agree to make delegates they vote for sign stating they will propose amendments that do 1), 2), 3) and work to see 1), 2), 3) ratified.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 8 years ago

Perfect Comment

[-] 4 points by rayolite (461) 8 years ago

We become the "rightful masters" through our uses of 1) assuring that all amendments are constitutional.

The needed dialogue is based in natural law and returns a doctrine of understanding ourselves, our nature and purposes as individuals and a society equitably serving it. We can do it now, and need to exercise our rights perfectly to be the rightful masters.

Wanna' see it work? Ask, "How we end the abridging of free speech and "occupy the MSM?".

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

1)End free speech abridging

2)public broadcast all candidates

3)demand election holidays

[-] 5 points by rayolite (461) 8 years ago

Yes, even more constitutional. Chances are we will have to do this in stages. The simple preparatory amendment for Article 5 makes the nation constitutional enough for the people to show they are the "rightful masters of the courts and congress". After the Article V is convened with assurance that ALL amendments will be constitutional, because the "masters" are in position, THEN those amendments can be woven in. I would make it "election weeks", and there is no reason to not have a holiday at the begining of election week.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

For some further information from beyond the 'MSM's MSM' - The Main Stream Media's 'Mendacity, Smoke & Mirrors', re. Afghanistan, please also try to see :

a) "A Crisis of Trust in Afghanistan", by Gwynne Dyer : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32347.htm ;

b) "Afghanistan - The Top Ten Lies that Recur in the Mainstream Media", by James O’Neill : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article31660.htm ;

c) “NATO Talks a Sham - War in Afghanistan is Not Ending”, by Dennis Kucinich : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article31660.htm ;

d) "Afghanistan Is A "War Of National Resistance" - Former CIA Agent", by 'Rethink Afghanistan' : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24061.htm &

e) "America's Phoney War in Afghanistan", by F. William Engdahl : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23774.htm .

fiat pax ...

[-] 1 points by Forrester (13) 8 years ago

Getting people off the MSM has to be one of our paramount objectives if we are to succeed.

[-] 3 points by rayolite (461) 8 years ago

Chicken and egg-It is your responsibility to form agreement that is compelling and made visible by your (our) persistence in clarity of universal agreement. That inspires people to ignore the TV.

Tell me why I never got a response to this from above,


and you'll solve a human mystery.

Wanna' see it work? Ask, "How we end the abridging of free speech and "occupy the MSM?".

[-] 0 points by Forrester (13) 8 years ago

We have all chosen different roles to play in this struggle, on here, in our daily lives, and in the streets, and parks. Those rolls are based on our talents; the things we hold most dear; the time we have available; and the 'way' moving forward, we believe is the most effective.

I have advocated writing letters to the editor on this forum for a long time, as there are many good writers on here, and to a big degree, we are just preaching to the choir here. I will look at your link, and please read my comment below.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 8 years ago

You guys really could use lessons in subtlety. You are not going to change the entire world or the habits of every human on the globe. If you spent a fraction of your rhetoric on making changes to the existing world you live in, you could make massive changes in less than a year.

Occupying the media, applying pressure, additionally add a program to distract enough viewers to other media outlets so their viewership drops just a little more than it already has over the last few years, you would force policy changes at the top management levels at these companies.

You are a spec in a very very large system. Now you can bounce into other specs enough to create a disturbance where those other specs also create disturbances until you have the arrangement of specs in your favor, or you can just keep thinking about how you can become big enough to directly challenge this much larger system (which will never ever happen) and get nowhere.

[-] 1 points by Forrester (13) 8 years ago

The idea that this movement can make progress through, one on one personal interactions with others is a view that is shared by many here. It may even prove to be the most effective way that we have in raising the awareness of the 'unknowing,' for now anyway. This movement has the chance of growing exponentially by these personal contacts, and of course through social media as well.

Some might think that trying to make signifigant inroads anytime soon into changing the way the corporate owned MSM reports news is a waste of time. I don't. We should use every method we can in our efforts to reach out to the mainstream. And just for the record, I practice what I preach.

[-] 3 points by rayolite (461) 8 years ago

With regard to Article V, I do think that letters to the editor will matter, but only if they are published.

Here you may be censored, but until them you are published. I've had letters to the most liberal publications censored of the references that led to the facts supporting my letters TWICE. As long as the media is a corporation and corporations have individual rights, free speech will be abridged. As long as we post on .com and not the usenet, we will be censored. Article V is the only tool which can correct all of these issues.

Write letters about that, maybe the papers in your town won't censor them, be sure to mention the aspects of Preparatory Amendment"

[-] 3 points by rayolite (461) 8 years ago

With regard to Article V, I do think that letter to the editor will matter, but only if they are published.

Here you may be censored, but until them you are published. I've had letters to the most liberal publications censored of the references that led to the facts supporting my letters TWICE. As long as the media is a corporation and corporations have individual rights, free speech will be abridged. As long as we post on .com and not the usenet, we will be censored. Article V is the only tool which can correct all of these issues.

Write letters about that, maybe the papers in your town won't censor them.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Occupy the FCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 8 years ago

Occupy The Media. Through social media, through email, through your blogs and websites, even Occupy your local talk radio shows.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

YEP - the MSM need to feel the heat of public disgust - but so does the Media watch Dog the FCC.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 8 years ago

The FCC is what stands between the FBI and your home phone. In the future, if internet freedoms are protected, they will be protected through the FCC. The FCC has been fought tooth and nail in the FCC's efforts to protect internet privacy. So far, the courts and congress have blocked the FCC's ability and attempts at protecting your internet privacy. This has been going on since Bush.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

The FCC have dropped the ball on insuring truth over the air/cable/satellite.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 8 years ago

Not from lack of effort. Like every other regulatory office, they have been crippled by politicians in the name of the police state and corporate profits.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Yes all watch Dog agencies have been under attack. Does not mean that protest should not be expressed. The fact of the matter is protest should be expressed at all governmental watch Dog or Judicial or law enforcement institution/department as they have not been doing their job - this also goes to the fact of budget cuts and who made them.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 8 years ago

Yeah, I can't actually argue against that. Apply pressure where needed.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Public outcry at the failures of government - all of the failures.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 8 years ago

I wonder what an actual coordinated "Occupy The Web" campaign could look like. I'll take stab.

  1. Create a target list, like the big the MSM networks and the FCC to start.

  2. Create an agreed upon, well though out, fact checked, multipaged document of complaints for each target.

  3. Create a website with a page for each target with social buttons to direct sharing by visitors to the targets social media, such as @MSNBC for twitter.

  4. Place a link on each target page to direct traffic to a petition built on the document, on Change.org maybe.


[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

I like having links available for making contact I also like having letters ready to send - I would also like the idea of people being able to voice their own thoughts on what they think of the MSM and their coverage or lack thereof.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 8 years ago

I'll think on this over the next few days. I could help with a lot but I have no experience with petitions. This forum could be a great place however to test the content of each target document and refine it before initial presentation to at least the NYGA for approval. Again, I'm not the best person for writing such a complex set of documents.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

It may be enough to present a detailed outline - then perhaps someone on the OWS official team might know how to get them properly completed.

[-] 4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Of course the wars need to be ended and our men and women brought home.

Look at these people of ours who volunteer to protect this nation - who go out looking to do good work in the name of peace and justice. They really want to be part of making a better world.

Then look at how they are used and abused for ulterior motives that have to do with control of resources and not anything to do with helping people.

Look at the death and destruction - FOR RESOURCES.

No wonder the troops are sick at heart and despairing of their part in all of this - no wonder good people are killing themselves in anguish and self disgust. They have been betrayed as we all have been by the government - our government.

This has got to end.

The suicide of our men and women is pretty much murder as they were killed by betrayal of purpose betrayal of cause - and they could not live with it - so it may as well be called murder.

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3874) 8 years ago

Thanks for the response DKA. I'm not here as much as I'd like to be and hadn't seen your view on the wars. Its good to know your stance on the subject.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

tweeted this post. We should as a country be exporting peace not arms. And we should start right here at home and make it part of our business and economic growth.

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3874) 8 years ago

Thanks for that. I'm hopelessly technologically unskilled....and I try to stay away from too much equipment. I don't even think I have a tweeter (or a cell phone) ^.~

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

No prob. It is an easy thing to do - the tweet button is now on the left side of the screen. I have a twitter account so all I need do is click on the button at the left side of the screen and the post gets shared out on twitter. I will do this as I come across articles I think should be circulated/shared. I really like that the forum added this feature.

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3874) 8 years ago

Lolol! D'oh! I did say hopeless right ?! Thanks.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Well you can find your way around a keyboard and you found your way to this site on the internet - so I would not say hopeless - just new.

[-] 4 points by trashyharry (3084) from Waterville, NY 8 years ago

At a time when the Roman Empire was rapidly being bankrupted by the burdens of Imperial war,corruption,currency and commodities speculation,tax evasion by wealthy families,waste and theft of public funds,ill-considered public works projects &c.,the Senators began desperately casting about for a possible way to raise revenue.Someone suggested that public urinals be taxed.This suggestion was vehemently opposed by some of the Senators as being "disgusting." The proponents of the idea argued that "money doesn't smell," and the proposal was adopted.The 1% feel the same way about all of the proceeds of the disgusting,filthy criminal activities whose gargantuan profits they launder.The 1% does not now,nor has it ever felt that money derived from even the most vile or despicable criminal activity is contaminated in any way rendering it untouchable.The 1% considers such wealth to be not only touchable,but just as lovable as money accumulated by honest people.The 1% are Equal Opportunity Moneygrubbing Greedbags.

[-] 3 points by Renneye (3874) 8 years ago

Oh my...how very well put...and passionately delivered!!

[-] 2 points by ogoj11 (263) 8 years ago

Reminded me of an experience I had traveling in Ecuador. Changing buses in a terminal in a mid size town (Santo Domingo), I decided it would be wise to use the men's room before boarding the next bus.

Imagine my surprise on entering the large, filthy, smelly bus terminal men's room to find a woman seated on a little kitchen chair selling squares of toilet paper, 1cent each. All day! What a job! Possibly this kind of austerity with employment is what our pols are planning for us. Possibly some men are thinking they'd like the job selling toilet paper in the women's restroom?

[-] 4 points by trashyharry (3084) from Waterville, NY 8 years ago

In the 1930's,Americans became zombified by years of unemployment;they drifted from place to place searching for nonexistant jobs.After awile,nobody said the word "goodbye" anymore.They said,as they passed each other like darkened ships on a sea at night:"Write if you get work..."

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago
[-] 1 points by trashyharry (3084) from Waterville, NY 8 years ago

An ancient dilemma.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago


[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Government involvement in opium is not new. British East India Company (Rothschild) has been active with this since 1690. Opium trade was the foundation of British East India Company. Wars resulted, including the Opium Wars with China and wars in Afghanistan during the 1800s. ------Same thing happening today.

Just thinking about Nancy saying "just say no to drugs", while VP Bush & CIA conducting Contra Cocaine For Arms Swaps in US.

[-] 3 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 8 years ago

If anyone does not believe America is involved in the drug trade, look at this fact. The Taliban cut opium production in Afghanistan, the worlds largest supplier, by 90% in mid 2001. By late 2001 the U.S. invaded. The next years opium production was back up to normal levels and by 2007 had doubled. All under the watch of U.S. and coalition forces.

The Taliban take profits from the sale of opium and buy the weapons that they use blow the brains out of our soldiers! Perpetual war for perpetual profit.


[-] 2 points by Renneye (3874) 8 years ago

Very good information! Thank you!

[-] 3 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 8 years ago

Your welcome. A person could easily come to the conclusion that 911 was a false flag attack to justify the invasion of Afghanistan to restore opium production. The timing fits, but I can't make that connection without more evidence.

[-] 3 points by Cocreator (306) 8 years ago

When War is Business as Usual,and profiteers run rampant, then you see decline, of humanity and environment..Where there is Respect, and a sense everything is connected, we realize what we do,affects everything.. The Present Program is a nightmare, and we have to build the new Dream..One that is Aware of the One, with Resect for All Living Things..

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Oh My God. Thank you Renneye. Everyone needs to see this.

Regarding so many of our soldiers coming back from the wars, and killing themselves-----maybe they are being murdered, so they won't tell the truth.

[-] 3 points by Renneye (3874) 8 years ago

You're reading my mind Nevada1. 18 veterans commit suicide every day?! That's a ludicrous number! We don't lose 18 soldiers a day in all of the active duty military. Several months ago, I read on VeteransToday that veterans are receiving psychiatric drugs at dosages between 10 and 100 times the normal dosages. Of course they're going to kill themselves. Dead veterans can't blow the whistle.

The pharmaceutical industry is owned by the same vermin that own the banks....and the military industrial complex.

[-] 2 points by Karlin (350) from Nelson, BC 8 years ago

I am stunned to see such a bold article in Veterans Today - I thought it was a mainstream magazine... not anymore!!

Drug prohibition has nothing to do with whats good for people, but lots to do with enriching the Elites and their banks, plus funding CIA projects that are too unsavoury for Congress to fund.

Google "US banks laundering Afghan drug money" and learn about how illegal drug money is all that is keeping 100s of US banks afloat.

And, that the CIA is providing "transport cover" - same as in South America in the 1980s {see: "the cocaine coup"}

PS - they could have added that the DU weapons have left a swath of birth defects in Afghan children, one more example of what America's ambitions for Afghanistan are - to ruin it and take it over, like "disaster capitalism"

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Our government is a giant Geselda Blanco.

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3874) 8 years ago

Gordon Duff tells the REAL story of the Afghan war from his rock solid military intel sources.

Another Exerpt....

Breaking: Afghanistan – America’s “Total Lie War”

Americans and Northern Alliance “Friends”…False Flag Terror, Drugs, Staged “Taliban” Attacks — by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

What has the US done in Afghanistan? It is simple. We sent in special operations personnel, who joined with organized crime, a failed oil company hack, a group of burned out former communists and set up a dictatorship while building a drug empire, staging terror attacks to blame on the Taliban.

We allowed India and Israel to run terror operations against our ally Pakistan and trucked thousands of tons of drugs into Russia. In the process, we made heroin so cheap any American child can afford addiction, one of mine did. He is dead now.

As our military melted down, themselves drugged with anti-psychotics, trained to hate the local population, undisciplined, unlead, unqualified, it began. Americans formed gangs, murdered civilians, raped, randomly killed local citizens in “drive by” shootings, killed any of their own who objected and it was all covered up except for a few “Soviet Type” show trials.

We have learned from sources in Afghanistan that acts of terrorism credited to the Taliban, school burnings, murders, acid throwing, suppression of women, are not done by the Taliban at all.

We have the names, we hold proof that Taliban “terrorism” has been systematically staged by US allies in the Northern Alliance in order to feed news organizations around the world a continual flow of propaganda in order to support false ideas of extremism. There is so much proof of this you could drown in it. US military intelligence knows every word and were aware this was going to be written today. There were NO objections.

[-] 1 points by AlwaysIntoSomething (42) 6 years ago

America has bombed 8 wedding parties since 2001

The out of control train continues, the passengers still sound asleep...



[-] -3 points by Lucky1 (-125) from Wray, CO 8 years ago

I laugh whenever anyone on the left pretends to support our troops.

[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

I laugh at people that pretend the words "left and right " for describing policy and people

[-] -1 points by Lucky1 (-125) from Wray, CO 8 years ago

Yet you don't support our soldiers.

[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

no/ there should refuse to fight wars of aggression and bomb non threatening targets

got over the praise the war paradigm

[-] 1 points by Renneye (3874) 8 years ago

I have been steadfast all of my life to not fall under any labels or be swayed into any one particular groove of thought...and given up a lot in order to keep it that way. It'll take more than a snide remark to throw me off kilter...O Lucky One.

[-] -1 points by Lucky1 (-125) from Wray, CO 8 years ago

So since my comment was geared to support our military may I assume you don't?

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3874) 8 years ago

Are you for real?! Did you see my main post? You know what they say about "assume" right?!

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

building bombs 'til bunkers boil

getting paid for shell filled toil

if I am to work tomorrow

lobe the load on foreign soil

yep US only pays 41% of the total world military budget

World Military budget in Billions (percent total) by Nation

  • 1,630 World Total
  • 711 United States 41%
  • 143 China 8.2%
  • 71.9 Russia 4.1%
  • 62.7 United Kingdom 3.6 %
  • 62.5 France 3.6%
  • 54.5 Japan 3.3&
  • 48.2 Saudi Arabia 2.8%
  • 46.8 India 2.5%
  • 46.7 Germany 2.8%
  • 37.0 Italy 2.3%


Global Arms Sales By Supplier Nations

39% United States

18% Russia

8% France

7% United Kingdom

5% Germany

3% China

3% Italy

11% Other European

5% Others


TOP 10 Arms Produces

Notes: An S denotes a subsidiary company. A dash (–) indicates that the company did not rank among the SIPRI Top 100 for 2009

  • Lockheed Martin USA 35,730 33,430 78
  • BAE Systems UK 32,880 32,540 95
  • Boeing USA 31,360 32,300 49
  • Northrop Grumman USA 28,150 27,000 81
  • General Dynamics USA 23,940 23,380 74
  • Raytheon USA 22,980 23,080 91
  • BAE Systems Inc. (BAE Systems, UK) USA 17,900 19,280 100
  • EADS Trans-European 16,360 15,930 27
  • Finmeccanica Italy 14,410 13,280 58 +L-3 Communications USA 13,070 13,010 83
  • United Technologies USA


[-] 2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 8 years ago

Ya, if you are fuckin idiot.