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Forum Post: A War with Iran and inflATION

Posted 2 years ago on Sept. 18, 2012, 11:50 a.m. EST by TrevorMnemonic (5827)
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Moving to the straight of hormuz.

Get ready for inflation in 2013. On top of a horrible drought in the USA, a war with Iran could lead to problems in the Straight of Hormuz which ships about 35% of the world's oil supply. Even if the USA is somehow not involved in a war with Iran... and a different country is... that would be bad for prices of everything all over the world. Specifically countries like China and Russia that do not want a war with Iran.

RT News - Military Exercises in Straight of Hormuz - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-SDGA69hrw

HR 4310 makes regime change in Iran foreign policy. Declares war if nuclear program is not stopped through sanctions. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYDyXhtKHJc

"Section 1221 makes military action against Iran a US policy."

"(b) Declaration of Policy- It shall be the policy of the United States to take all necessary measures, including military action if required, to prevent Iran from threatening the United States, its allies, or Iran's neighbors with a nuclear weapon."

"Section 1222 directs our armed forces to prepare for war."


HR 4310 full: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.4310.rH:

President Obama stated on January 24, 2012, `Let there be no doubt: America is determined to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, and I will take no options off the table to achieve that goal.'

Mitt Romney - U.S. policy toward Iran must begin with an understanding on Iran’s part that a military option to deal with their nuclear program remains on the table.

Do you understand what's happening here?

"Iran is the prize in the center." - Dick Cheney portrayed in the movie W by Oliver Stone

Congress prepares for war in Section 1222

(1) IN GENERAL- The Secretary of Defense shall prepare a plan to augment the presence of the United States Fifth Fleet in the Middle East and to conduct military deployments, exercises, or other visible, concrete military readiness activities to underscore the policy of the United States described in section 1221(b).

(2) MATTERS TO BE INCLUDED- The plan required under paragraph (1) shall include, at a minimum, steps necessary for the Armed Forces to support the policy of the United States described in section 1221(b), including--

(A) pre-positioning sufficient supplies of aircraft, munitions, fuel, and other materials for both air- and sea-based missions at key forward locations in the Middle East and Indian Ocean;

(B) maintaining sufficient naval assets in the region necessary to signal United States resolve and to bolster United States capabilities to launch a sustained sea and air campaign against a range of Iranian nuclear and military targets, to protect seaborne shipping, and to deny Iranian retaliation against United States interests in the region;

(C) discussing the viability of deploying at least two United States aircraft carriers, an additional large deck amphibious ship, and a Mine Countermeasures Squadron in the region on a continual basis, in support of the actions described in subparagraph (B); and

(D) conducting naval fleet exercises similar to the United States Fifth Fleet's major exercise in the region in March 2007 to demonstrate ability to keep the Strait of Hormuz open and to counter the use of anti-ship missiles and swarming high-speed boats.



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[-] 6 points by thesungiveslife (41) 2 years ago

you said it pal...these wothless wars WILL eventually cripple the current empire of the world. Enough is enough with the lies. When are people gonna wake up to the phony BS they keep shoving down their throats? Lusitania was a setup to get us into WWI. We angered the Japanese on purpose to drag us into WWII. The Gulf of Tonkin was a LIE! 911 was a LIE! to get us to kill 1.5 million innocent Iraqis and Afghanis. War is what it has ALWAYS been, for money, and for aquisition of resources and geopolitical advantage. Its time we wake up. We have to declare the resources of the planet as the common heritage of all the earth's people. And we can only do that with a resource based economy, or Earth economy, not this exploitative thing we call an "Anti-Economy"

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

Re. Iran : Some hard facts may bring some 'Light' to matters, rather than all the unpleasant 'Heat' being generated by the constant fear and loathing and abject WAR-mongering :

a) Iran has The World's 3rd Largest known 'Total' & 2nd Largest 'Liquid' Oil Reserves : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Iran ,

b) Iran has The Worlds 2nd Largest known Gas Reserves : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas_reserves_in_Iran

c) Further consider and cogitate upon the fact that in Feb. 2008, Iran opened a Hydro-Carbon Bourse at The Kish Mercantile Exchange (see http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11613.htm and also http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28646.htm ) - trading in a basket of currencies, including Euros, Roubles, Yuan and Iranian Rial BUT NOT in U$ Dollar$ and thereby challenging both Reserve Currency, Dollar "HegeMoney" as well as the Monopoly of the existing Oil and Petroleum Bourses.

d) The Iranian Central Bank is State Controlled & Entirely Government Owned, ie - NOT Privately Owned ( http://blogs.wsj.com/corruption-currents/2011/12/15/senate-passes-sanctions-on-irans-central-bank/?mod=google_news_blog & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Bank_of_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran ).

  • Thus do 'a-d' here actually constitute the Real "Casus Belli" here ?!

e) The same NeoCon, Neo-Colonial, Paleo-Imperial WARMONGERS who beat the drums for The Unconscionable, Illegal & Immoral WAR on Iraq (where The Only "WMD" = Words of Mass Deception !!) are now beating the Drums of War and this time Iran is in the Imperial crosshairs. Pls. Research PNAC (eg http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1665.htm & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PNAC etc.)

I appreciated your clearly heartfelt comment and points 'tsgl' & for you :

fiat pax ...

[-] 3 points by flip (6812) 2 years ago

nicely done - once again

[-] 2 points by thesungiveslife (41) 2 years ago

oh shit.....awesome man, im gonna jot the Iranian central bank info down. Its funny how this happened, cuz im actually originally from Tehran, Iran and now live in NY. You gotta understand that Iran has its own ultra corrupt practices under the guidance of the "Emperotocracy"I have witnessed first hand the assaults against my family and heard the horror stories of how my cousins were raped and murdered. But even this is due to American influence through the interception of Mossadegh's democratically elected win back in 1954, and also the Iraq-Iran war where they funded Iraq with weapons. Its honestly an extremely shady scene in Iran that I cant say I fully know, but its the same bullshit central bank concept, however not budging to US demands, and thats why their on the spotlight. America foreign AND domestic policy is the most hypocritical and double standarded in history of "uncivilization". Please checkout zeitgeist addendum or zeitgeist moving forward on youtube, will blow you away. Understand what the root problem is, and we also then have a solution for this disease. And its nothing ideologic, its factual and scientifically and technically proven

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

Thanx for your excellent comment, made from a position of experience and knowledge. I encourage you to avail the other links here on this thread too and thanx for mentioning Mossadegh (='Operation Ajax' !).

pax et lux ...

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

All valid points. The critical one is whether Iran will produce and launch a nuclear weapon at Israel.

Previously Israel destroyed Syria's Al-Kibar nuclear facility in 2007 and Iraq's Osirak reactor in 1981 completely on their own initiative. Could either attack be construed as an attempt to occupy and control these countries resources?

Israel did not participate in the wars against Iraq or Afghanistan. Why does Israel's legitimate fear of a nuclear weapon being used against them necessarily mean their goal now is to plunder Iran's resources allied with U.S. and British forces?

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

Re. "The critical one is whether Iran will produce and launch a nuclear weapon at Israel." = Abject Propagandist Twaddle !!! It is actually impossible to believe that the ancient civilisation of The Magi, The Medes and Persians - the present day Iranians, has suddenly acquired a collective suicidal death wish !! On the other hand, it is Very Possible to believe that they feel very threatened indeed !

ad iudicium ...

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

"The critical one is whether Iran will produce and launch a nuclear weapon at Israel." = Abject Propagandist Twaddle !!!"

The evidence clearly points to Iran building nuclear weapons. Iran says the purpose of the Fordo nuclear enrichment facility near Qom is to enrich uranium for civilian use up to a maximum of 20%. Why would Iran build a civilian enrichment facility deep underground, impervious to conventional air attack, heavily defended by anti aircraft systems, just to make fuel to power a research reactor? Kind of like spending a million dollars on a safe to protect a $1000 in savings. It makes no sense unless they are developing weapons grade material.


The Shahab 3 medium range missile can easily carry a nuclear device to Israel. Just a couple nuclear warheads penetrating Israeli defenses could take out nearly half it's population.


"It is actually impossible to believe that the ancient civilisation of The Magi, The Medes and Persians - the present day Iranians, has suddenly acquired a collective suicidal death wish !!"

It doesn't take a collective suicidal death wish, just the wishes of a handful of leaders. The same kind of leaders who deny democracy to live, will deny their people life itself.


[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

Absolutely no one I know advocates an Iranian Nuclear Bomb and I totally concur with that ... BUT let's just for a micro-second try to imagine a possible Iranian motivation. The ONLY rational answer to that particular quandary can be summed up in two words & one hyphen : 'Self-Defence'.

In terms of cold, hard strategic logic, there is no country on earth as surrounded by enemies as Iran. The Imperial Armies of the U$A are camped out on both Eastern (Afghanistan) and Western (Iraq) borders. To the North are oligarchic US allies and to the South are the decadent, dynastic and despotic Arab regimes who are in Utter Dread of The Very Notion of an "Islamic REPUBLIC". Iran also actually shares a border with Nuclear Armed Pakistan, a long term US 'client' with whom it has always had a difficult relationship. Finally Israel is a nuclear power of the first order and The Pre-eminent Hegemonic Power in the region bent on retaining its position.

For over sixty years Israel has been trying to entice Iran's ~50,000 strong Jewish community to decamp to Israel, but the loyal-to-Iran descendants of ancient Persian Jewry will have no truck with the Zionists and have consistently refused all entreaties. Yet another one of those uncomfortable facts-on-the-ground, that Israeli Propaganda would rather you did NOT know.

Thus, for further insights re, 'Iran and Jews', please see :

Regime change in Iran will be achieved by the Evolution of the Iranian body-politic and it has been happening ever since Iranians got rid of that despotic CIA-puppet known as "The Shah" and his brutal secret police, Savak. Iran has had many elections since 1979 whereby the popular-will does find expression both locally and nationally so to pretend that it is on any kind of par with for example The "Kingdom" of Saudi Arabia, is frankly 'beyond the pale'.

An alliance of The Imperial "United States of Amnesia" (Gore Vidal,RIP) ; 'The Zionist-Apartheid Entity' ; The Despotic 'Kingdom' of Saudi-Arabia and The Global Corporate Power Elites, are pitched against Iran and its people. ALL right thinking people everywhere, who truly believe in Peace, Justice and Freedom MUST oppose a WAR with Iran both for the sake of innocent Iranians AND with an eYe to the Global Conflagration that will result.

Re. "It doesn't take a collective suicidal death wish, just the wishes of a handful of leaders." - you may be thinking of Ahmedinejad's alleged words (& the 'translations' thereof!) re. Israel. The closely argued, pedantic and semantic deconstructions, in order to justify a view that somehow Iran will attack Israel (which every sane person in Iran and elsewhere in The World, knows is nothing short of Suicidal for Iran and Iranians !!) - is to me, sophistry of a very high order and is almost desperate in its inventiveness.

Finally, re. "The same kind of leaders who deny democracy to live, will deny their people life itself." is an extreme and irrational position ! There is a 'Democracy Deficit' almost everywhere in The World, however bombing people to give them 'democracy' - Is Simply Not On !! The real motivation for WAR (for the clear reasons I set out in my comment to 'thesungiveslife' above) is HEGEMONY !!!

fiat lux et fiat pax ...

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

"BUT let's just for a micro-second try to imagine a possible Iranian motivation. The ONLY rational answer to that particular quandary can be summed up in two words & one hyphen : Self-Defence !"

Another answer for motivation would be it's own hegemony gained by the partial annihilation of Israeli forces. Iran would become the great power in the middle east if it was able to pull off what a half dozen nations could not after 60 years of war.

"In terms of cold, hard strategic logic, there is no country on earth as surrounded by enemies as Iran."

Except Israel.


"Speaking to the Arabic news network, Al-Alam on Sunday, General Hajizadeh said the US and the Israeli regime may not enter war with Iran "independent from each other, meaning that either one of these two starts the war, it will be joined by the other one." "We see the US and the Zionist regime standing fully on the side of each other and we cannot imagine the Zionist regime initiating a war without the US backup. Due to the same reason, if a war breaks out, we will definitely wage battle on both sides and will definitely be engaged with the US bases," he said. "In case such conditions arise, a series of incidents will take place which will not be controllable and manageable and such a war might turn into a third world war. That means, certain countries may enter the war for or against Iran," added the general.


Even if Israel unilaterally bombed Irans nuclear installations, the Iranian leaders would choose to draw the U.S.and other forces into the battle. This kind of thinking clearly shows they are willing to sacrifice their own people in a suicidal show of force, while these cowards sit comfortably in their bunkers.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

Perhaps consider for a moment that The Only 'Moral War' is a War of Self Defence. 'Pre-emption' is NOT 'self-defence' - it is a calculated projection of power to achieve strategic, geo-political advantage. In The Nuremburg Trials after WWII, 'aggressive war' was considered The Supreme War Crime.

Your claim that Iran wants its "own hegemony" is at least a de facto admission that it is 'hegemony' that we are talking about here, however you can not substantiate this with anything other than 'projection' of either Israel's or The USA's or indeed both of their - own actual motivations.

You continue your point re. supposed the Iranian hegemonic desire, with the phrase - "gained by the partial annihilation of Israeli forces." followed by quoting my - "In terms of cold, hard strategic logic, there is no country on earth as surrounded by enemies as Iran." - after which you add - "Except Israel." This is a specious canard by any objective analysis. It is actually based on an irrational and paranoid perception intentionally being used to propagandise and in order to justify a view that somehow Iran will attack Israel - which every sane person in Iran and elsewhere in The World, knows would be nothing short of completely suicidal for Iran and Iranians !! - No country in the world would dare to attack Israel which is a Nuclear Armed State, so in all honesty - such talk of Israel being threatened is sophistry of a very high order and is almost desperate in its inventiveness.

The Iran War is the brainchild of the neocons of the Bush-Cheney administration. In top secret meetings of the national security council, Dick Cheney argued for war against Iran as early as 2002 and 2003. Cheney’s daughter, Elizabeth Cheney served in the State Department as the conduit for $85 million per year in funds to “pro-democracy” organizations inside Iran – groups like the Mujaheddin e-Khalq, a Pseudo-Marxist ; Quasi-Islamist paramilitary cult of celibate terrorists, commandos, assassins and agents who practice of assassination, bomb manufacture, espionage, torture and terrorism in Iran.

It is clear to any and all that there is a deep desire for WAR against Iran from the Military-Industrial-Security-Complex in both Israel & The USA and "W.M.D" = Words of Mass Deception and repeating them does NOT make them true. Peace loving people all across the world can see what is going on here and what is at stake.

fiat lux et fiat pax ...

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

Amir Ali Hajizadeh, a brigadier general in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, made the comments to Iran's state-run Arabic language Al-Alam television. "Iran will not start any war but it could launch a pre-emptive attack if it was sure that the enemies are putting the final touches to attack it," Al-Alam said, paraphrasing the military commander.

"Pre-emption' is NOT 'self-defence"

Would a preemptive strike by Iran then be immoral?

"there is no country on earth as surrounded by enemies as Iran." - after which you add - "Except Israel. This is a specious canard by any objective analysis."

Israel has been attacked numerous times by surrounding armies. Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and Iraq. Can you name one friendly country surrounding Israel?


[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

Sabre rattling results in more sabre rattling - shock horror !!! Just pin your colours to the mast 'jr' !! Are you for war with Iran ?! Or are you for a true PEACE ?

Please consider that "immoral" is as 'immoral' does. Further - no one can question the might of Israel's power and of the power of its friend. To live in fear or to love and truly desire Peace - it's all about the choices we make as both individuals and societies.

You aren't actually engaging with my thoughts, you're selecting syntax and by advanced pedantics about semantics, shilling for WAR, imho. This matter is as old as 'OWS' and we are now talking past each other so I append a portal into other minds :

We can all call upon history and it is absolutely a core reference but how do we wish to embrace and make the future together without looking forward with 'Love' in our hearts and on our minds ?

shalom aleichem ; salam alaikum ; pax vobiscum ; ommm shaaanti ~*~

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

Yes, I am for war! I wish that handful of bastards worldwide on every side of every conflict, who choose to settle disagreements by violence instead of negotiation, to go to the most desolate spot on this earth, armed with every conceivable weapon, and annihilate themselves.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

Five true words and you exclaim thereafter a whole lorra hyperbole, so please see bw's comments.

pax et lux ; nunc et semper ; hic et ubique ...

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

To have a "true peace", those who desire conflict can't be present. As long as they exist, "true peace" will not exist.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20843) 1 year ago

To have "true peace" you must make peace with all people, even the most intransigent, or else "peace" has no meaning.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

Do you think that strategy could work with a person like Saddam Hussein or Joseph Stalin?

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20843) 1 year ago

Why don't you add Dick Cheney and George Bush to your list? And, yes, I do. If you had peace in the world, "true peace," those people wouldn't gain power in the first place.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20843) 1 year ago

Out of room, but now you're talking, re: below.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

Cheney and Bush belong on that long list too. What about Clinton? Half a million Iraqi children died as a result of his sanctions.

And what about you and I and millions more? Did we by not stopping their madness, become just as responsible, and also belong on that list?

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20843) 1 year ago

Oh, geesh!

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

Oh, ditto! ;-)

fiat pax ~*~

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

"We Got To Have Peace" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QglEbgON9o and for my Dad,

"Jonny you're too bad" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgkZwUDt98o&feature=related ~*~

pax et lux ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20843) 1 year ago

Really nice, Shadz. And, here's to your Dad for raising the likes of you.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

Thanx 'bw' + 'Method Man & Texas' - "Say What You Want" {Live} ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lzdmWihSHk & thanx again. Ohmmm 4 all Pops, everywhere ~i~ respice ; adspice ; prospice ...

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Thanks for the links

"Iran is the prize in the center"

Still underway

[-] 3 points by Renneye (3819) 2 years ago

That scared the hell out of me...but sometimes that's what is necessary to open people's eyes and minds. Thanks TM...for a great link ;-)

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20843) 2 years ago

Holy crap! Thanks, Trevor. That is a frightening possibility that we must try to stop.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

Oh My Gosh !!! VERY Powerful Link !! Highly Recommended To All Readers !

Rather more prosaically and somewhat less dramatically yet very worryingly :

fiat lux et fiat pax ...

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

They already are....We are living on borrowed time (QE time)...

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

"QE" = 'Queasing', ie that which will induce nausea and sickness. Like War-Mongering !!

fiat pax ...

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

I think the japan wanted a world colony power like Briton and the US

[-] 0 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 1 year ago

We killed 1.5 million?

[-] 2 points by GNAT (150) 1 year ago

This war document is being passed as a generic military budget bill for 2013, for those of you who did not know. In other words, they are fast tracking congressional approval for war and like NDAA2012, it will pass with no media coverage and without public knowledge. This is not a joke or a game. You must make a Lot of noise about this. We have to stop at least on bullshit bill from passing. This is that one.

While they have the country verbally assaulting each other with the words Obama and Romney, they are fucking us and the world behind closed doors, out of sight and out of mind.

[-] -1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

A lot of noise.

Call your congressmen. Go to their office.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

Loose lips sink ships.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

I heard the street blocking in Occupy was prevented

I'm not sure how to stop the US from killing

[-] 0 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

You need to worry about more than just the U S killing. There lots of other players on the board that you may want to give your attention to.

[-] 2 points by flip (6812) 2 years ago

but we are responsible for our killing no? shouldn't we take care of that first then we can start working on all those others you correctly point out

[-] 0 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

The only prob. Is you can't change the others you are not going to change them so then if we change and they don't how do you think that will work out for us?

[-] 1 points by flip (6812) 2 years ago

very well - what do you see as the problem - do you think china will attack us?

[-] 1 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

As long as they see us as to powerful no I don't think they will. It makes no sense to attack when your enemy is at their strongest. The problem is the same as it has always been how to stay strong enough to fend off aggression but have the wisdom not abuse the strength

[-] 1 points by flip (6812) 2 years ago

we agree - not many nations with a nuke get attacked - which is why if i were leading iran i would for sure try to get one! now nations with thousands of nukes can only be attacked by crazies with box cutters or some such thing - suicidal people. bombing poor people only makes more crazies - not less so therefore..........

[-] 1 points by podman73 (-652) 1 year ago

the only problem is iran does not have a rational leader i dont think its a good idea to have muslim extremist with nukes........they will be "crazy" regaurdless of what we do.

[-] 1 points by flip (6812) 1 year ago

well i do not see it the same way. we are the only ones who have ever used "the bomb" - i don't think they are any less crazy than our leaders. i can rememeber wishing my family had a fallout shelter when kennedy almost pushed the world into nuclear war - and for what macho nonsense - if you do not know that history here is some of it - "This year‚ August 6 memorials have special significance. They take place shortly before the 50th anniversary of "the most dangerous moment in human history," in the words of the historian and John F. Kennedy adviser Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr., referring to the Cuban missile crisis.

Graham Allison writes in the current issue of Foreign Affairs that Kennedy "ordered actions that he knew would increase the risk not only of conventional war but also nuclear war," with a likelihood of perhaps 50 percent, he believed, an estimate that Allison regards as realistic.

Kennedy declared a high-level nuclear alert that authorized "NATO aircraft with Turkish pilots ... (or others) ... to take off, fly to Moscow, and drop a bomb."

None were more shocked by the discovery of missiles in Cuba than the men in charge of the similar missiles that the U.S. had secretly deployed in Okinawa six months earlier, surely aimed at China, at a moment of elevated regional tensions.

Kennedy took Chairman Nikita Khrushchev "right to the brink of nuclear war and he looked over the edge and had no stomach for it," according to Gen. David Burchinal, then a high-ranking official in the Pentagon planning staff. One can hardly count on such sanity forever.

Khrushchev accepted a formula that Kennedy devised, ending the crisis just short of war. The formula's boldest element, Allison writes, was "a secret sweetener that promised the withdrawal of U.S. missiles from Turkey within six months after the crisis was resolved." These were obsolete missiles that were being replaced by far more lethal, and invulnerable, Polaris submarines.

In brief, even at high risk of war of unimaginable destruction, it was felt necessary to reinforce the principle that the U.S. has the unilateral right to deploy nuclear missiles anywhere, some aimed at China or at the borders of Russia, which had previously placed no missiles outside the USSR. Justifications of course have been offered, but I do not think they withstand analysis.

An accompanying principle is that Cuba had no right to have missiles for defense against what appeared to be an imminent U.S. invasion. The plans for Kennedy's terrorist program, Operation Mongoose, called for "open revolt and overthrow of the Communist regime" in October 1962, the month of the missile crisis, recognizing that "final success will require decisive U.S. military intervention."

The terrorist operations against Cuba are commonly dismissed by U.S. commentators as insignificant CIA shenanigans. The victims, not surprisingly, see matters rather differently. We can at last hear their voices in Keith Bolender's "Voices from the Other Side: An Oral History of Terrorism Against Cuba."

The events of October 1962 are widely hailed as Kennedy's finest hour. Allison offers them as "a guide for how to defuse conflicts, manage great-power relationships, and make sound decisions about foreign policy in general," in particular, today's conflicts with Iran and China.

Disaster was perilously close in 1962, and there has been no shortage of dangerous moments since. In 1973, in the last days of the Arab-Israeli war, Henry Kissinger called a high-level nuclear alert. India and Pakistan have come close to nuclear war. There have been innumerable cases when human intervention aborted nuclear attack only moments before launch after false reports by automated systems. There is much to think about on August 6.

[-] -1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

It might be a long task. But in the name of peace we must continue to get out the message.

[-] -1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

In 2013 the war in Afghanistan will reach over 2 trillion dollars.