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Forum Post: A "People's Veto"

Posted 2 years ago on Feb. 12, 2012, 1:57 p.m. EST by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC
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what would it look like ?

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[-] 3 points by JPB950 (2254) 2 years ago

Unless you managed to educate the electorate on each issue, it would be mob rule based on fears stirred up by the opposition.

[-] 1 points by asauti (-113) from Port Orchard, WA 2 years ago

"Unless you managed to educate the electorate on each issue, it would be mob rule based on fears stirred up by the opposition."

And that is what this country might already have.

[-] 1 points by JPB950 (2254) 2 years ago

Of course it is, so why would direct democracy be any better? We're trading politicians we at least can identify, protest against, and maybe even vote out of office for whatever anonymous group shows up to vote on each issue.

Democrats are still bitter over the 2000 election, Republicans point to what they say are irregularities in other elections. Is there any way to be assured elections will be any more honest under direct democracy then they are under a republic?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

2004 to

something about Ohio and Florida

[-] -1 points by asauti (-113) from Port Orchard, WA 2 years ago

I support The Republic and the Constitution of the United States of America. (except for the 16th Amendment)

I stand for Individual Liberty. Give me that, or give me death.

[-] 1 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

That's FANTASTIC timirninja ;) ... I knew the song.. but never seen the vid ..THANKS.... reminds of Tupac ... how bout Immortal Technique ... he kicks ass too

[-] 2 points by timirninja (263) 2 years ago

people like them never meet their retirement, peace! i leave with you

[-] 2 points by untold (24) 2 years ago

This idea of giving the public power is paramount. I think it starts with connecting like-minded individuals. In my own town, I'm sure there are hundreds of people that think similar to me. That are confused by what's going on. That are slowly becoming aware. That are dying to participate but have no idea what to do. How do we connect the dots? How do we connect these people?

Pandora radio is cool. I like being able to start my own channel based on Genre or Artist. Imagine if there was a Pandora-like radio, but instead of playing music, it played conversations. Imagine starting your own conversation on "abortion", on "why we need a new bridge?" Instead of sorting convo's by artists and genres, we could sort them by topics, people, and location. I would love to listen to normal people talk about normal things. Convo is a natural form of educating.

[-] 1 points by brightonsage (4494) 2 years ago

Greece?

[-] 1 points by untold (24) 2 years ago

You don't want a mass of people that don't know squat about an important bill to have power over whether or not that bill gets passed. They might start vetoing stuff that they need just because they're uneducated and don't know any better.

I wouldn't want regular citizens having veto power unless I knew they were well educated in that area. But how would I know that? There would need to be a way to measure whether or not people know what they're talking about. The measuring can't be done by the government either.

[-] 1 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

that's why I suggested: ; imagine the People being able to organize and Veto any legislation on the spot.. given an overwhelming majority ...

an overwhelming majority ... say 75-80% ... it would give us a chance to control our representation a bit ... and quickly

in order to gain an 80% support the people would have to be educated on the issue ... no ?

[-] 2 points by untold (24) 2 years ago

I think it functions more like a quick fix since the system itself has crappy leaders. Should we adjust the system itself or the people in the system? Adding another check and balance is adjusting the system. Imagine if Congress was filled with open-minded creative young problem-solvers that worked together. Imagine if Congressmen were better educated and made better decisions for US and not THEM. If this was the case, would we be talking about a "public veto"? If everyone was well-educated, I think the idea of a "public veto" is wonderful. But with as many uneducated voters as there are, it could backfire.

[-] 1 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

imagine if congress even actually read the Bills they are voting on !!!! ;)

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

Elections. And lawsuits. And not least, activism.

[-] 1 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

imagine the People being able to organize and Veto any legislation on the spot.. given an overwhelming majority ...

[-] 0 points by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC 2 years ago

What JPB950 said.