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Forum Post: A Mormon Student at Brigham Young University Exposed the Lying of his own Church and was silenced

Posted 1 year ago on June 2, 2012, 3:21 p.m. EST by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY
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A Mormon Student Tells the Truth and Gets Gagged by Church Owned Brigham Young University http://www.affirmation.org/news_2010/2010_045.shtml

BYU Student Tells the Truth about Prop 8, Gets Censored Cary Crall: "It's not about adoption rights, or the first amendment or tradition. These arguments were not found worthy of the standards for finding facts set up by our judicial system."

September 2010

An opinion editorial about Proposition 8 was yanked by Brigham Young University officials hours after being posted on the student newspaper website.

In a September 7 editorial Cary Crall, a senior from Temecula, Calif., argued that the only valid reason that Mormons had to support Proposition 8 was obedience to the Mormon prophet.

"It is time for LDS supporters of Prop 8 to be honest about their reasons for supporting the amendment," Crall wrote in the Daily Universe. "It's not about adoption rights, or the first amendment or tradition. These arguments were not found worthy of the standards for finding facts set up by our judicial system. The real reason is that a man who most of us believe is a prophet of God told us to support the amendment."

Crall's editorial implies that the arguments that the LDS Church promoted during the campaign were nothing more than scare tactics. "Claims that defeat of Prop 8 would force religious organizations to recognize homosexual marriages and perform such marriages in their privately owned facilities, including LDS temples, were never mentioned in court," Crall wrote. "Similarly, the defense was unable to find a single expert witness willing to testify that state-recognized homosexual marriage would lead to forcing religious adoption agencies to allow homosexual parents to adopt children or that children would be required to learn about homosexual marriage in school."

Crall's editorial was censored by BYU officials and removed from the Daily Universe website only hours after being posted.

During the campaign against marriage equality in California, Mormon leaders and rank-and-file members helped promote a false and misleading document titled "Six Consequences the Coalition Has Identified if Proposition 8 Fails," and the LDS-owned Deseret News refused to publish any editorials opposing Proposition 8.

Fred Karger, founder of Californians Against Hate, estimates that Mormons ultimately contributed $30 million of the $42 million total raised in support of Prop 8.

Find below the complete text of Crall's censored op-ed.

Viewpoint: Defending Proposition 8 — It's time to admit the reasons

By Cary Crall

Perry v. Schwarzenegger, the recent United States District Court case that overturned Proposition 8, highlighted a disturbing inconsistency in the pro-Prop 8 camp.

The arguments put forth so aggressively by the Protect Marriage coalition and by LDS church leaders at all levels of church organization during the campaign were noticeably absent from the proceedings of the trial. This discrepancy between the arguments in favor of Proposition 8 presented to voters and the arguments presented in court shows that at some point, proponents of Prop 8 stopped believing in their purported rational and non-religious arguments for the amendment.

Claims that defeat of Prop 8 would force religious organizations to recognize homosexual marriages and perform such marriages in their privately owned facilities, including LDS temples, were never mentioned in court. Similarly, the defense was unable to find a single expert witness willing to testify that state-recognized homosexual marriage would lead to forcing religious adoption agencies to allow homosexual parents to adopt children or that children would be required to learn about homosexual marriage in school.

Four of the proponents' six expert witnesses who may have been planning on testifying to these points withdrew as witnesses on the first day of the trial. Why did they go and why did no one step up to replace them? Perhaps it is because they knew that their arguments would suffer much the same fate as those of David Blankenhorn and Kenneth Miller, the two expert witnesses who did agree to testify.

Judge Vaughn Walker, who heard the case, spent 11 pages of his 138-page decision meticulously tearing down every argument advanced by Blankenhorn before concluding that his testimony was "unreliable and entitled to essentially no weight." Miller suffered similar censure after it was shown that he was unfamiliar with even basic sources on the subject in which he sought to testify as an expert.

The court was left with lopsided, persuasive testimony leading to the conclusion that Proposition 8 was not in the interest of the state and was discriminatory against gays and lesbians. Walker's decision is a must-read for anyone who is yet to be convinced of this opinion. The question remains that if proponents of Prop 8 were both unwilling and unable to support even one rational argument in favor of the amendment in court, why did they seek to present their arguments as rational during the campaign?

It is time for LDS supporters of Prop 8 to be honest about their reasons for supporting the amendment. It's not about adoption rights, or the first amendment or tradition. These arguments were not found worthy of the standards for finding facts set up by our judicial system. The real reason is that a man who most of us believe is a prophet of God told us to support the amendment. We must accept this explanation, along with all its consequences for good or ill on our own relationship with God and his children here on earth. Maybe then we will stop thoughtlessly spouting reasons that are offensive to gays and lesbians and indefensible to those not of our faith.

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