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Forum Post: A message to the Elite,

Posted 10 years ago on April 30, 2013, 5:57 a.m. EST by ProblemSolver (79)
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" Tear Down This Wall. "



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[-] 8 points by Middleaged (5140) 10 years ago

Glasnost. Trust, but verify with Transparency. Declassify 90% of what this country considers Secret. Support FOI Act and make sure all of government responds quickly to all FOI Request.

We have like 14 Intelligence Agencies which have Federal Tax Money Supporting them. They all have equipment, Offices, Personnel, Retirement Programs, Pensions, Health Benefits, Life Insurance, Energy Costs, Vehicle Fleets.... Don't you think we can start limiting their Budgets or Combining their Functions & Missions???

We don't know the Budgets, Programs, Spending, Buildings, Faculties, Testing Labs, Weapons, Purchases, Personnel Staffing Levels, Relationships with other organizations, Corporations that Benefit from their Contracts & Spending... for all of these organizations:

1) NSA
2) CIA
3) DIA
4) DHS
5) And all the Military Services

In a Democracy... the Government get's it's power from the People. It is a government of the people.

All of the Secrets, Conflicts of Interest, Lobbying, Gift Giving, Relationships with Financial Managers, Off Shore Prisons, Torture, Kidnaping, Supporting Dictators & Tyrants, Ignoring where US Money goes when the purpose by Law is intended to Help People, Ignoring working conditions & Low Wages used on Imported Products, Ignoring tax avoidance Schemes, Ignoring declining US Wages, Benefits, & Retirement Wealth....

How can this be a democracy when Congress ignored the Weapons & War it Exports while trying to restrict gun ownership in the USA.

How can Congressmen be "True Believers" in America, Truth & Justice ... when the world now sees American Financial Investments as "True Jokes to be Avoided".... While there are no Investigation of Wall Street Executives for Fraud in the 2008 Financial Crisis.

How can Wealthy Americans Sit back and watch the Conspiracy in Washington DC & Corruption in Wall Street ... and look at their kids, say this is a Democracy, that America is Good, that America Tortures, that America Deprives Citizens of Due Process and Individual & Human Rights..... How can Powerful Americans let Congress go on and on taking money, meeting with Lobbyist, Deregulating, Privatizing, and having Cozy relationships with Bankers

Obviously... DHS needs armored vehicles and huge numbers of troops to protect the bankers "Way of Life" not the American "Way of Life". DHS protects the Economic System of Privatization, Deregulation, Laissez Faire Capitalism, and empowering Select Corporations who have no limits, no responsibilities, little taxes, no patriotism, and who pay less and less payroll taxes despite growing bigger every year.

What Congress Doesn't know that Corporate Tax Revenue is going Down, that Corporations are Off Shoring, that they pit US States against each other to secure Tax Abatements, that some of our Largest Corporations are not Paying any Income tax??? At All!!

Maybe US States have to Tell the US Congress what to focus on. Maybe Congress is too busy meeting with Lobbyist to see what their priorities are. Maybe there has to be National Referendums to Tell Congress what to do.

Maybe Congress is the only one that believes that their performances on CSPAN are credible. The Media probably Laugh at Congress all the time because they are so obviously 2 faced.

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3874) 10 years ago

No no, 'Ma'. Don't hold back. Tell us how you REALLY feel. Lol!

Exceptional post, 'Ma'!!

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 10 years ago

Well lets hear some more ideas from others. we can all play. Thanks.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 10 years ago

Some of these agencies generate their own funding via the weapons and drug markets. We won't be mentioning the 2.3 trillion unaccounted for by the "intelligence" centre of the pentagon.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 10 years ago

Court Systems: Judges act like they can't judge or weigh Law for themselves right?

I guess we have huge Institutions where people act like they don't know enough to figure everything out or even inject Principal.

It is almost like Judges are afraid of Blowback or Pushback or Backlash from the Wealthy Interested Parties in Law Cases.

I know it is hard without an example... I think DKA mentioned Citizens United Supreme Court Case based on an Amendment in the 1900s that gave rights to color people or people of color.

Another case example is the ACLU case that was thrown out recently by a Judge who stated that since the USA has this secret Court for Wire Tap Warrants... and we don't know if the ACLU was Damaged... then there is no case against the Federal Government. But the ACLU has decades of history of fighting for rights, privacy, equal rights, infringing on rights, ect.

So now under the Corporate Dictatorship... What all our Judges have to be pointed to the principals involved, Lawyers have to present the right arguments and not use general case law, constitutional law, legal definitions, ... does every precedent and applicable case have to be sited to win a case now.

In effect... we have to have the most connected and expensive Law firm that specializes in the specific case law for us to Sue in Court??

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 10 years ago

So it's game, set, and match to the geezergarchs.

Best get prepping for life in a FEMA camp.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 10 years ago

Well, but divided we fall. We disappear one at a time or a family at a time...

So effectively we decide between being united or waiting for the year when our family get taken... I guess. That sounds weird doesn't it.

We will likely become in debt and have to face the consequence of that. It might be taxes. It might be a lawsuit. It might be a lien. It might be health problems. We don't know how the system will catch us or bankrupt us, right. Eminent Domain might take our property. We might have hazardous waste on our property. These days legal actions are about copy right or intellectual property.

Is it my imagination or do Aussie films sort of work on these weird little themes based on details??? They are like art films really...

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 10 years ago

Hmmm, there's many genres in Aussie filmography.

You'd need to be specific.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 10 years ago

oh, I knew that, but didn't know it was the intelligence center involved. That sounds like the truth. CIA is famous for suitcases with cash.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 10 years ago

The Pentagon is the intelligence centre, isn't it?

The day before the trade towers were dropped, the gaping hole in the pentagon's financial accounting was exposed.

[-] 3 points by Middleaged (5140) 10 years ago

Can any Institution as large as DOD be called an Intelligence Center? LOL I think there is a book called "The Puzzle Palace" which is about the Pentagon. The old Soviet Union used to call the US Military Organized Chaos.... or so I heard some where.

On the other hand... The Pentagon probably is filled with the smartest military people around. And they certainly got away with channeling the 2.3 Trillion Dollars to special programs. The military loves paper work and has been guarding money since the beginning. It is impossible for money to disappear except by design and multiple signatures. Now I think I heard some stories that when the CIA need stuff, they would steal it from who every had it including the US Military.

So maybe there is a simple covert process. 1) Locate assets & Resources 2) Figure out how it is being secured or guarded 3) Determine the weak spots 4) Decide to take it by force or by stealth & Dark of night 5) Determine what Equipment, personnel, training you need 6) Plan 2 escape routes and decide on any back up or covering fire required 7) Execute the plan 8) Apologize later if needed.

But hell it is probably a lot easier if you blackmail, make promises or pay off the guy on the computer either A) in charge of the bank accounts or B) the technical expert that really knows the computer system.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 10 years ago

I've read plenty of novels written by former spies, so I'm thinking you're on the money with that reply.

Can't be crying about losing money you haven't legally aquired.

[-] 3 points by Middleaged (5140) 10 years ago

Yeah, the real genius' are on Wall Street. The Price Fixing of ISDAfix and LIBOR are supposed to be worth over $800 Trillion Dollars. And was it Blythe Masters that invented Credit Defaul Swaps or Interest Rate Swaps... and they think there is like $1 Quadrillion in Global Derivatives out there.

Hey maybe it was a CIA Operation to sell AAA Rated Junk to International Customers and steal their savings.

I mean we are all members of NATO, but hey wipe out the people's money and you set the stage for Political Opportunities

1) Fascism
2) Serfdom
3) Feudalism
4) Military Conscription
5) Forced Labor
6) A prison Planet with forced labor
7) A last grab of all Resources before Bio weapons are deployed
8) Indentured Servitude of the population
9) Marxism
10) a World Without Money
11) Zeitgeist
12) Neoliberal World Empire
13) A world where all Property is Divided up by the Global Elite
14) Lloyd Blankfein's Wet Dream (pardon the reference)

[-] 3 points by Builder (4202) 10 years ago

I'm kinda glad I'm ready to go feral and live gypsy again.

[-] 3 points by Middleaged (5140) 10 years ago

A Healthy return to Nature for all of us. We'll get to know our neighbors, free ourselves from the radio & TV, and maybe learn to sing, play an instrument, shoot a bow, throw a boomerang, and use a blowgun.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 10 years ago


[-] 1 points by ProblemSolver (79) 10 years ago

..Is there more ..?

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 10 years ago

Yes, the Elite need to chose a side. It could be that we have reached a turning point. The Civil Lawsuits are showing the DOJ, FBI, Congress, OWS, and all people how broke the system has been. But now there are investigations into the Price Fixing that has been controlled by Wall Street.

The old System must be fixed or it must be changed with something new.

The Elites can see this better than we do. So now it is time for the Elites to Do something Positive and to use their influence to fix things or Bring Justice.