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Forum Post: A Message From Democracy to the DNC/RNC

Posted 10 years ago on Sept. 1, 2012, 10:08 p.m. EST by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL
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Go screw yourself.

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[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 10 years ago

It's insane that the RNC had as many lies as it did. They should have all been arrested for fraud.

[-] 2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

They voted without a bus load of Paul delegates.

They tried to arrest me and two others for recording the forum.

They spied their way into everyones business.

They set the protester/guest stage under the bridges, at a dead end with ZERO traffic.

It goes on and on. Funny thing is, most conservatives dont want Romney. And yet here he is, being cheered for. The whole thing is a sham.

[-] 3 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 10 years ago

A total fucking sham.

They section everything off. I learned that from trying to get into an outdoor speech Obama gave. I arrive 35 minutes early and they would not let me in... even though I took the time to get a ticket several days in advance... a ticket to a public outdoor speech... can you believe that? They threatened to arrest me anytime I tried to get close enough just to hear the speech or at least see the president from a far distance. And they didn't allow signs unless they were Obama signs given out at the entrance.

If that's how the democrats roll... I'm glad I haven't had the chance to see the pathetic suppression from republicans.

TOTAL SHAM. This system is bought and paid for and sectioned off from opposition to the system.

[-] 2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Here's a clip from teh local media on Friday night, with Chris K, who has been solid since day one of this thing...

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/25088188

[-] 2 points by ogoj11 (263) 10 years ago

Twinkle hchc, from Raleigh. Occupy Raleigh has divided on whether to protest at the nearby DNC convention. I was pleased to hear your spokesperson so articulately saying that it's not about the democrats and republicans.

Here, our more conservative leaders have been so preoccupied with the politicians and unfair electoral practices that many of us have come to the conclusion that it's better to ignore all the election blather, just concentrate on building unified resistance, particularly on reaching the immigrants.

[-] 2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

The hurricane totallly fucked our numbers. Im such a maniac, I was hoping for one!! I thought it would make it that much more memorable (assuming a cat 1) :)

Anyways, we told the city that if they want to have free speech zones then we wouldnt be sponsoring anything in downtown by OccupyTampa. But we did all go down and partcipate with other groups.

But the numbers sucked. We have thrown just as big rallies last sep/oct as this RNC. Which is dissapointing because we had been waiting for a year for this.

Had a political speech open mic, but Ybor was so dead because of the massive police presence that it didnt work out that well. Same for Voting Is Dead promo. Had better turnout last year for the local mayor election :(

[-] 1 points by ogoj11 (263) 10 years ago

Thanks for such a frank assessment. My college age kids are headed to Charlotte tomorrow. I'm skipping out, even though I have friends in FLOC I'd like to reconnect with.

Our numbers are way down too, but I guess I'm not as discouraged as you. Raleigh was a city without any meaningful activism before Occupy. We've written a chapter. There are a lot more pages unwritten.

Tampa also seemed dead politically when I lived in the area. Maybe that was because I was so busy with small children. Do you consider Occupy Tampa disappointing? How have local factors influenced your Occupy?

[-] 2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

OccTampa is all good. And it was great to see some faces I havent seen in a while.

I was more referring to the amount of national protesters that didnt show. There were 800 arrents in 08. I think we were lucky to get 800 total protesters here.

We got a local park to use, but its in west tampa and not in the finance section where we were before. Im sure the city is kind of like "out of sight, out of mind". But they are kicking them out on the 15th of there too. I wasnt one of the people who was destined to take a park. Spent plenty of nights on floors and sleeping in my car during school, not going back there anytime soon :)

[-] 1 points by ogoj11 (263) 10 years ago

For a few years I volunteered in Hillsborough County schools doing this really corny pro-diversity thing for little kids, something called Green Circle. I had a felt mat with a big green circle and lots of different colored (and shaped) figures. I would do this routine where I placed one of the figures outside the circle and discuss with the kids how the excluded one felt. Sometimes I wonder if it made a difference.

[-] 2 points by Mooks (1985) 10 years ago

I bet you did. It doesn't take much to influence a little kid. I grew up in a virtually an entirely white town in NH. When I was like 7 we went to Disney World and it is one of the most vivid memories of my childhood because I remember seeing blacks, asians, etc for the first time. Even though we really didn't interact with them, that memory always stuck with me because it was such an eye opener. Then later that summer we went to the Bronx to go to a Yankee game and that was a whole other eye opener haha.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Well, their schools down here are still pretty bad, I think 47 outta 50.

Tampa isnt overly political, you are right. But there are a small core that are very dedicated, and it will be interesting to see how everyone progresses over the years.

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

If you made one kid stop and think - then - it was worth it.

[-] 1 points by Odin (583) 10 years ago

That's a great message hchc. It's too bad, it is not the prevailing one here on this forum.

[-] 2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Yes, but the internet doesnt have to worry about fitting in. You can come and spew whatever, and there are no faces to look at you like "can you please take that crap to a campaign office somewhere" lol.

[-] 1 points by Odin (583) 10 years ago

I guess i forget that. The bright spot is I have really sharpened my skills at being able to articulate myself well, especially with.......&..... ;-)

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

haha...

[-] 1 points by Odin (583) 10 years ago

editied slightly lol

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 10 years ago

We already see enough Obama/Romney propaganda flooding our tv from billions in contributions...

which flood out real candidates from public knowledge every election. That's why THEY spend billions.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

In PA, if you are challenged by the two parties about your ballot access, you are personally responsible for the legal fees of the D and R if they win.

The R is trying to get Gary Johnson removed. They got the guy with the constitutional party to say screw it, Im not going to do it.

In 04, they challenged Nader, and got enough sigs to be questioned, that they got him off and then levied a 80k legal judegement against him.

Massive suppression of democracy at work by both of these parties constantly.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 10 years ago

it pains me that the majority of the public do not take the time to look into the truth. Instead they vote based on their tv.

[-] 2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

I have a TV headcover/mask for political props/promos that you would love