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Forum Post: A Letter To The "Leaderless Leaders" of Occupy. Why occupy has failed(and will continue to). From a fellow Occupier

Posted 2 years ago on Feb. 20, 2012, 8 a.m. EST by Disco (-1)
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I will start this out by saying I completely support occupy. I support every encampment I support every protest and every march and I believe in occupy as much as the next devout occupier. My issues are this. In my mind occupy is such a simple movement, we have a simple message. Stop the fucking bullshit.

Whether it be money in politics, Corporate control of the media, Corporate control of the government, Corporations writing the words our government puts into law, and also as a generality money in politics. They are all intertwined and you can see these things in many different ways but clearly as everyone who occupies can see, It's bullshit.

So now that we have these clear concise almost universal goals lets see what occupy has done with them. With this very apparent knowledge at least to us, we created quite a small following. word spread fast and to those who were internet savy or just big into movements and such we got the info quick and we said wow these people are right on, Protesting right at the source wall st hence the original naming of occupy and also a big reason support was raised quite quickly and donations were coming in quite fast.

Now at this point with momentum, with public interest, and with the money to create awareness. The movement halted, and this is where I think we really dropped the ball. The money was squandered. Now I don't know where all the money went but I do know. Most was stolen, misused, used for laptops, iphones, houses, and many other silly things that DID NOT further the movement.

Occupy also decided to be leaderless which in 2012 is an actual possibility, but instead of taking that in the right direction. We chose to have "Leaderless Leaders" The people who were using the money, stealing the money, manipulating these people at their local occupies and not using it to further the movement. Right now and since the movement has started the number 1 thing needs to be spreading the word garnering support. Not propositions for laws not delegates or people we want to see get elected at a local level or even senators WE DON'T HAVE THE SUPPORT WE HAVE NO NUMBERS AND PUBLIC IS AGAINST US. The people who are asking for the ways to fix things and want propositions and clear things we want done ARE THE WRONG PEOPLE TO BE BENDING TO.

We have a message that millions want to hear and they don't even know it. they think the opposite

Not only this but as the leaders of occupy, they were not doing what leaders are supposed to. they were not spreading the word they were not furthering the movement in a productive way. Point blank every cent of that money should of went to raising awareness of what occupy is about, WHY we are occupying and why YOU the disenfranchised 99%er need to come join us. In this sense occupy has already beyond failed.

Not even 80% of America has any real idea of what occupy is about.

We can accomplish nothing with current numbers or even another 10,000 people UNLESS WE START RECRUITING AND SPREADING THE WORD to town halls to city councils to the people who get all their info from FOX,CNN,MSNBC AND CORPORATE MEDIA those are the people who support us and those are the people we need. Our support lies in rural America and we HAVEN'T EVEN SAID HELLO TO THESE PPL

We did not spread the word. We did not put out national TV ads. We didn't send those "leaders" out TO PREACH the truth of occupy to rally hundreds of thousands of people to the cause. And the fact IS simply THIS. if you believe we are the 99% which I do. why did you not go and open their motherfucking eyes. Instead you allowed them to be TOLD what occupy is. TOLD who occupy is.

Now, because of that public opinion is Occupy=Woodstock 2. We allowed media to control the 99% and tell them what occupy is and this cannot change unless we proactively GO RECRUIT and SPREAD THE MESSAGE. We are being slammed and lied about every time the media speaks of us and if we allow it to continue if we allow things like MAY DAY: GENERAL STRIKE to happen we may not be able to get that support ever again.

I seem to be saying alot so ill consolidate some points until this gets any attention if it even does.

We are not even 1% as of now. as a matter of fact media is turning us into the 1% they are making drug dealers homeless and criminals flock to occupies... thats exactly what happened in wallst and its whats happening everywhere and its what they want.

We have no numbers.

We have no support.

We now have no money.

And yet NOW after allll this! We are proposing a GENERAL STRIKE.... This is the epitome of stupidity and ignorance and I can only imagine this is sabotage from within. If we allow may day to happen it will destroy the movement and bring us to a point of no return with the public.

We have no support NO ONE KNOWS WHAT WE ARE ABOUT and the MEDIA will DEVOUR US WITH THIS they will completelyyy annihilate us with this and the sheep(99%) that have been listening will believe even deeper we are hippys who smoke pot and dont want to work. THEY WILL NAIL THE COFFIN SHUT AND I CAN TELL YOU MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS WE ARE IN THE GROUND RIGHT NOW. this will completely alienate occupy we cannot have a general strike WITH NO NUMBER AND NO SUPPORT. well thats my 2 cents I would love to have some discussion. O AND WE LOVE THE INTERNET THAT CAN SPREAD THE MOVEMENT THAN WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLIES OR MEETINGS OR AT LEASTTTT AN OPEN FORUM ON OCCUPY POLICY AND ACTIONS EVERY MONTH.

I would love to discuss more so pm me please or write a comment

love to all:)

O AND FUCK OCCUPYWALLST ITS A MOVEMENT NOT A TUMBLR PICTURE.

occupy, out.

edit: Just a rant so sorry for my native american dialect. not good with english I suppose

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[-] 3 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

"LEADERLESS" may be a good experiment - but it does not work NOW
"PROCESS" may be a good experiment - but it does not work NOW
BUT NOT NOW
they got us very far; they helped up wake up America - a HUGE success!
BUT NOT NOW


but now it is time to find a Mandella, a Ghandi, an MLK
its not a matter of "herding cats"
it is a matter of herding tigers and lions and leopards


yes, I know how angry we are at our parents and their methods -
we must not conclude that is why they are bad or why we must do something different


TWO THINGS WE MUST ADMIT
the "process" is minority rules
no major world goals are achieved leaderlessly


For God's sake -
for MLK's sake -
for America's sake -
"keep your eye on the prize" -
not the process

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

Asolutely, "keep your eyes on the prize" - not the process.

Well said.

[-] 3 points by hedleymnn (14) 2 years ago

OWS is dead because it was leaderless and more importantly because of the violence (ie, arrest, rape, destruction of property, murder, trash, filth, etc) OWS is very envious of the Tea Party but they are just the opposite of the Tea Party

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[-] 2 points by April (3196) 2 years ago

We didn't choose to be leaderless. The few anarchists in the park that started this movement chose it. Now stop complaining and get with the program. Be a good little revolutionary and do what the anarchists tell you. Because leaderless movements always work. Direct democracy is oh so effective.

It's all the media's fault. It's all the authorities fault. It's all the 1% fault.

It's not Occupy's fault. Stop blaming the victims. We're the victims here! Where's your solidarity!

[-] 0 points by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC 2 years ago

Well said!

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

Who the hell do you think you're fooling, troll?

[-] 1 points by hedleymnn (14) 2 years ago

It's all true

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

That you're both trolls? Yeah, it is.

[-] 1 points by hedleymnn (14) 2 years ago

I myself was a dedicated member until all the violence started happening and now I am out

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