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Forum Post: “A Hundred Thousand Homeowners” /Super Committee Proposing Vital Cuts

Posted 11 years ago on Nov. 15, 2011, 2:50 p.m. EST by economicallydiscardedcitizen (761)
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This and something similar from OWS supporters, a 'blitz' if you will by mailing materials such as a CD especially for the 'Super Committee' see info. about proposed cuts to SS at: http://mandelman.ml-implode.com/2011/11/were-going-to-need-a-bigger-horse-portland-police-back-down-rather-than-engage-occupy-portland-protesters/

http://mandelman.ml-implode.com/2009/11/a-hundred-thousand-homeowners-voices-of-hope-change/

WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN IF:

EVERY member of Congress…EVERY major newspaper, radio station and television news channel… The White House… EVERY major bank CEO’s office… EVERY nonprofit housing agency… the Internet… EVERY Governor’s desk… what if they ALL received a 22 minute DOCUMENTARY from America’s homeowners that told the story of what’s really happening in the neighborhoods of this country as the foreclosure crisis continues to grow and spread?

I’m not talking about some amateur home video here…

I’m talking about a broadcast quality program that opened with President Obama’s speech last February introducing the Making Home Affordable program, and then showed the realities of today. What it’s really like to deal with banks. The human tragedy that too many don’t understand, because they can’t see it… yet.

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[-] 1 points by NotYour99 (226) 11 years ago

And I'm sure it would be produced by a purely unbiased production company? No, it too would just be more of the same slanted journalism that's slandered here so often, just slanted in the opposite direction, with truth being somewhere in the middle. Like so many things similar, it would be dismantled, it's "facts" rebuked, and life would go on, the world would continue to spin, etc etc.

[-] 0 points by karenpoore (902) 11 years ago

www.adbusters.org/blogs/adbusters-blog/best-amoung-us.html

[-] 0 points by economicallydiscardedcitizen (761) 11 years ago

Thanks. Let us not forget Paul Krassner http://www.ep.tc/realist/06/

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 11 years ago

Please wait until January and include a book by a very successful financial advisor from the LasVegas-Salt Lake City area who will make the other half of your point very obvious (I am sure you will want to give both sides of the story to everyone, won't you??)

[-] 0 points by economicallydiscardedcitizen (761) 11 years ago

Maybe Mandelman knows who you're referring to. Can you tell me who the very successful FA from Las Vegas/Salt Lake City area is? I'd be interested in their book. I'm actually in Reno, NV

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 11 years ago

Stupid of me not to write his name down. I know that I want a copy of his book. Only read a summary of his story and that of the other folks in his area that found it a long way DOWN after reaching nearly to the top. Will post when I find.

[-] 0 points by economicallydiscardedcitizen (761) 11 years ago

Got it from someone else by email, is it this guy?

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/financial-pro-lost-house-191003606.html when you read the article, at the bottom is this: Carl Richards’s book, “The Behavior Gap: Simple Ways to Stop Doing Dumb Things With Money,” will be released on Jan. 3.

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 11 years ago

Yes, sorry,I got real busy and did not have time to look it up. I think that the forthcoming book deserves some merit and attention in that it speaks to some (NOT all) of the problems we face today. But we have a definite tendancy to throw all of the problem into one mass (99% or whatever) and thus remove all of the individuality from the situation.

Everyone has a reason for being where they are today. For some it may be education, for others luck, for others stupidity, the others wisdom. What I am saying is, that by doing so, we are no more approaching the problem than a teacher who stands at the front of the 6th grade class and calls and tells everyone to do the same worksheet every day without some consideration for the individual needs within that classroom. It seems to me that all of the hub-bub today can simply be boiled down to a few demanding RIGHTS which they may or may have and applying all reasons, motives, etc to one cause (In the overwhelming cases = MONEY.) and I really think the pressure is building to the point where the workers are going to say "enough is enough"

[-] 0 points by economicallydiscardedcitizen (761) 11 years ago

Personal money management and small business development /money management are knowledge that can truly make our nation a powerhouse. Why a grassroots effort is not more prevalent mystifies me.

When I was in my 20's for example buying too many groceries(mimicking my mother shopping for a family of 5) was a difficult habit to break, ditto other areas that needed more frugal money management that no amount of college could teach-ditto the patterns of client financial statements, some with unusual account setups between themselves and their multiple companies and properties revealed to me through their desire to buy a home or refinance..

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 11 years ago

Thanks, I needed that . I just have a difficult time with the evident lack of reason being applied to todays' problems. Do we no longer have history, social history, common sense to guide us in our decision making processes. What does a flash mob have to do with anything other than fun - we called it stuffiing a phone booth when I was younger. A wise man told me a truism today: If bread is $10.00 a loaf and you can buy it there really is no problem. If it is 5cents and you don't have a nickle, you have a problem.

[-] 0 points by economicallydiscardedcitizen (761) 11 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH2FHEq_eJ0 Phone Booth Stuffing Anniversary

It cheers me up that OWS is bringing out those with memory and willingness to reinforce our history, social history and common sense in the interest of positive change. As long as there are people willing to do so I think there's hope amidst the problems of reality no matter the time or place in history.

PS: I used to live not more than a 10 minute drive from St. Mary's college which is in Moraga, CA

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 11 years ago

Great post. It gives me hope that there is a little memory and willingness left, but have you looked at the pile to trashy ideas that this relatively small group has to work through for this common sense to resurface.

It has been so buried under the pile of rubbish our society as spewed out, that we can only hope that that element of society whether it be in the OWS, the rich, the poor, the 99% or the 1% prevails.

[-] 0 points by economicallydiscardedcitizen (761) 11 years ago

Agreed, but it's amazing how much support one dissenter from the status quo can garner when the reality is their dissent is that of the many.

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 11 years ago

I saw this evidenced last night on raw video. It was amazing how many people were congregated around a raving man on the corner advocating burning down Macy's today. Really amazing. But there is a question regarding support and curiosity. After all, to the best of my knowledge, he was the only one arrested.

[-] 0 points by economicallydiscardedcitizen (761) 11 years ago

The majority want to effect change peacefully; it's the minority of participants who would choose violence which historically is the option of last resort that should be taken when peaceful action in the interest of a fair and reasonable cause fails.

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 11 years ago

Read the posts on here. Violence seems to be the dominate topic not open for discussion. If violence is the last resort - it appears many of your supporters are now at that point and the end is near. You abolished the anarchists which was a good move but they still hide in your shadows as do all the other minorities that would destroy any good you attempt you make. They can yet win simply by being a very vocal and very violent minority. If you remain a leaderless organization, you remain a very open target to then. And yes, we had 12 OWS protesters in our county, 6 of them were mask wearing anarchists and that isn't exactly a minority to us.

[-] 0 points by economicallydiscardedcitizen (761) 11 years ago

What county are you in? I'm in Reno, NV so that puts our OWS chapter in Washoe County.

I forget where I read it but something like 2% of the population is mentally ill/more likely to be impulsive and violent & 20% have addictions (anything from alcohol &cigarettes to black market drugs/dope) How can a leaderless movement of 80% to 98% peaceful and rational protesters succeed as a leaderless movement? Good question! For starters it can survive as a philosophy thus remaining in practice through it's adherents OR it will need a cohesive body of literature and eventually a leader or leaders to ensure more direct action on local to global communities.

No other movement before or after the American Revolution that gave birth to the nation, it's Constitution, government andleadership through the Representative Republic "By the People and for the People" has been formed.

Perhaps most of us should look to history's fairest radicals in the interest of Freedom-the founders of America and the exciting history of the US Revolution.

I'm watching a History channel documentary on Netflix on the Revolution-there's plenty in America's history that is more than ideal for use as an OWS blueprint. Can we start by using the US Constitution as our blueprint? What a Radical concept! PS: Read the whole US Constitution and tell me how much more radical OWS can get than that?!