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Forum Post: A honest question for Obama supporters?

Posted 6 years ago on Dec. 15, 2011, 4:10 p.m. EST by MikeLobotomy (29)
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At this point with the NDAA how can you justify a vote for fascism in America. I'm not here to judge or argue I just honestly want to know.



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[-] 3 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 6 years ago

Not just that... but Obama also supported the bailouts and extended the Bush tax cuts... Which are 2 of the biggest issues with OWS.

I don't understand how people still want to vote for this guy. And no this doesn't mean Newt Gingrich is the better choice. And no it doesn't mean McCain Palin would have been better. It just means Obama sucks. Stop falling for the lesser of 2 evils bullshit and that third party candidates can't win.

We're supposed to be smarter than that. When you say that, you fall to the spell they have everyone under.

Don't vote for the guy you think will just win compared to the guy who sucks more. Just vote for the best candidate even if it's a third party. Tell all your friends that too. If everyone who only is going to vote for Obama only because Gingrich is an asshole decided to vote third party instead... we'd have a third party president.

[-] 2 points by MikeLobotomy (29) 6 years ago

Unfortunately in my draconian state third party canidates cannot be on ballots with out petitions with 25,000* signatures which is 1/3 of voters in my state. Worst part of all I'm on a RED state, so it may never happen.

  • I think this number is correct I would have to look it up to be for sure
[-] 2 points by Horror (48) from Columbus, OH 6 years ago

Yep there is 3 different laws for 50 states. They made sure they blocked 3rd party a while back. They must protect their criminal organization.

[-] 3 points by MikeLobotomy (29) 6 years ago

you know the old saying though if voting changed anything they'd make it illegal.

[-] 3 points by nucleus (3291) 6 years ago

If this topic is for Obama supporters you should not get many - if any - responses.

[-] 2 points by nth (21) 6 years ago

Should ask the republicans and Neo-Cons that too. and your Zionist puppetmasters in Tel Aviv. I see this silencing of us as coming from Tel Aviv.

[-] 2 points by BlueRose (1437) 6 years ago

There was NOTHING that would prevent me from voting for Obama, except this. He has LOST the election.

[-] 2 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 6 years ago

Hurrah! You saw the light...

I used to be an unconditional Obama supporter and now I think he is actually much more dangerous than "Dubya" because he is such a clever CON ARTIST.

Another former staunch supporter of Obama, spiritual teacher and physician Deepak Chopra, usually soft-spoken and conservative, recently exclaimed in an interview: "OBAMA IS SURROUNDED BY MAFIAI!!!"

America is finally "getting it" and that gives me great hope.

[-] 1 points by BlueRose (1437) 6 years ago

This is a a result mainly of corporatocracy and the GOP, with Obama not standing up to it.

[-] 3 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 6 years ago

Obama ran as the second Martin Luther King but is governing like the third George Bush.


[-] -2 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 6 years ago

I would point out that the bill is huge, it has a number of spending issues in it, and that makes it difficult to veto.

I say we should hold Levin and McCain responsible. They are the ones who wrote it. The head of the FBI doesn't like it. There's a forum post around here with a news article and his statement to Congress.

[-] 3 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 6 years ago


Theres the ol Zen Dog- sticking up for corrupted politicians as usual!!!


[-] 2 points by BlueRose (1437) 6 years ago

"Despite the fact that the leadership from all the major intelligence agencies (the Secretary of Defense, the Director of the FBI, the Director of National Intelligence, the White House Advisor for Counterterrorism, and the DOJ National Security Division head) have spoken out in opposition to the bill and its indefinite detention authority..."


[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 6 years ago

They would hardly do that if it wasn't a reflection of the President's thinking as well.

[-] 1 points by MikeLobotomy (29) 6 years ago

I agree that McCain and Levin are responsible for writing the legislation but any senator or house member who voted for it are responsible for it as well. Ultimately Obama Lied and said he would veto it and now he has shown his true neo-con colors and if he puts his name to it he will then be held responsible as well.

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 6 years ago

Were he a true neo-con we would have 50,000 troops stationed in Iraq for the next 50 years.

[-] 2 points by MikeLobotomy (29) 6 years ago

You do realize the troops from Iraq will be going to Iran now, right?

[-] 2 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 6 years ago

gosh I hope not,

since someone may be on the verge of turning Iran

into a shimmering sea of glass . . .

[-] 1 points by MikeLobotomy (29) 6 years ago

I know right seems like we got some itchy button fingers in there ready to throw some nukes at Iran for that drone they hacked/captured.

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 6 years ago

I'm sure there is a lot more to it than one small drone.

[-] 1 points by MikeLobotomy (29) 6 years ago

Agreed but they sure are making a big deal over it. But honestly if I were Iran I'd be a bit tired of CIA attacks as well.

[-] 2 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 6 years ago

I tend to agree -

but I don't want anyone as crazy as

  • Ahma-dick-in-head

getting their hands on nukes