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Forum Post: 9/09/2012 an open letter of protest about the Drone War. I forward for 1 who is not yet comfortable sending it himself.

Posted 1 year ago on Sept. 9, 2012, 12:45 p.m. EST by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN
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Sent this day 9/09/2012 An Open Letter Addressed to The President of the United States of America and to all of the currently seated members of Government and to all of the citizens of the USA to the people of the world and to all governments. Please Handle and deliver/share as you would a letter delivered by the USPS.

Mr. President and all currently seated members of Government and to all the citizens of the USA, to the governments and people of the world.

1st let me state that these letters I send to you I also send out on social media to all of the citizens of the USA to read as well - and I suppose it could be considered as open letters to the world also.

Anyway today's subject: A protest letter on the Drone War, I forward it to you on behalf of another who is not yet comfortable enough to send it to you.

Dear Government,

The drone attacks are WRONG. It's unconstitutional. It creates more enemies. We have to stop it.

In recent months Pakistan has loudly protested each drone strike, calling them a ‘total contravention of international law’ which are a ‘violation of its territorial integrity and sovereignty... yet you continue to bomb their country. This also technically puts our nations at war.

I think it is only a matter of time before the international discussion on this makes it crystal clear that if the drone programs are not shut down, then what we are looking at is the potential of war of all against all, a pulverization of national sovereignty and a rejection of the structure of international law. So, you know, there is the idea of war crimes becomes compelling only if nations respect the jurisdiction of a tribunal.

We have ventured into a world since 9/11 where international law is set aside and where the implements of war are becoming so ubiquitous that all the rules are being ignored and conflict zones are expanding. Where suspected terrorists – and we do not know what they are really suspected of doing, you know – they can be suspects now, and they can be executed. Or they can just be perceived to be a male of combat age and be executed.

When the Constitution was written the war-power was bifurcated in this way. Under article 1 the Congress founders wanted to restrain what they called ‘the dog of war’ by putting it into the hands of a legislator whose constituents would be affected by it, and would therefore have to face the people at some point. But what has happened is that in this post 9/11 world is that the declarations of war have basically vanished, replaced by an administration’s assertion of the power to declare a global war. And that has been buttressed, that was under the Bush administration, now under the Obama administration it is the derogation to the executive of the power to strike at any nation at any time for any reason. Expanding drone wars across Africa, across the Middle East, and I think ultimately risking blow-back.

We are at a war in Yemen now, you know. We do not need to go through an Orwellian exercise of semantics or the twisting of meaning here. We understand that we are at war in Yemen. In Yemen recently there has been a very steep escalation, not just in drone strikes but apparently covert air strikes, naval bombardments, and possibly ground forces.

You are looking here at an executive power that is unleashed. Our system of justice, according to the Constitution, is highly structured. There are broad areas of our constitution that have to do with people being investigated, arrested, charged, having a trial, and then if they are convicted being properly sentenced and incarcerated.

If someone shot a grocer and his defense was ‘it was a targeted killing’ he would be put on trial for his life. But we are told that these targeted killings are somehow to be considered apart from any legal system.

Well, when you have assassination program's that lack any attempt to establish legal justification, then you have journeyed into moral depravity. International law means nothing, laws of war mean nothing. I am not assigning that condition to any one individual, but I am saying that the program itself bespeaks an approach which depraves moral law, the constitution, and international law. That sets us into an endless cycle of violence.

There are innocent people being killed, that can not be disputed. In one of the first strikes that they publicized in the Wazaristan area, there was a little town Damadola where I think about 14 people were killed, I think in a strike in January 2006, I am just reciting this from memory. I believe they struck because one of the persons appeared to be the height of one of the individuals they were looking for. The criteria keeps changing and it keeps getting looser and looser.

Now, according to that recent story I think in the New York Times, all adult age males in Waziristan are now viewed as terrorists.

This is how I feel... but better said by Dennis Kucinich.


People if you would like to contact the President and share your thoughts on this subject or on any other subject.

http://www.barackobama.com/contact-us/ or email info2012@barackobama.com

You can also make contact here:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

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Dear Dan,

September is Hunger Action Month. All across the country people have pledged to do their part to help the millions of Americans who starve each day. But one of the toughest truths to grapple with in this battle is how few people actually admit to going hungry.

If your friend was pinching pennies just to get enough calories, wouldn't you want to help?

Since so many starve in silence, it's up to us to get Congress to recognize the pains some people go to just to feed themselves and their families. If Congress would treat hunger as a pressing problem rather than something to just sweep under the rug, we could help take the social stigma out of the issue. We could actually help all Americans get the nutrients they need and deserve.

Hunger in America is everyone's problem. Urge Congress to take a stand against hunger and protect the millions of Americans starving in silence.

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[-] 0 points by Nevada1 (4024) 1 year ago

Signed

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Hey Nevada1 - you always manage to find and revive a petition that I thought might have died a silent death.

Thank you.

This is an important issue.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4024) 1 year ago

Hi DKA, Your welcome. This program of 'everything for the corporation and nothing for the people', must end.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

You are so correct - why is it that many seem so blind?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Sent & tweeted.

[-] 0 points by Nevada1 (4024) 1 year ago

That drone that went down in Iran, is likely being shared with China, Russia and N Korea. Have heard it said that a "drone race" is coming---Could backfire on US.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Just what we need military assholes around the world playing war games - that actually kill. Sorry - SOSDD

[-] 0 points by Nevada1 (4024) 1 year ago

Can see US gov using their killer drones in US, to deal with hungry malcontents. MSM will report that citizens blew themselves up with drug lab or bomb making material.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Just another aspect of Robo-Cop World. To sick to contemplate.

[-] 0 points by zerowageslave (2) from Point Pleasant Beach, NJ 1 year ago

And yet not one mention of the Environmental Protection Agency flying drones over Amerika to harass farmers???

Why not?

[-] 2 points by trashyharry (788) from Waterville, NY 1 year ago

Drones are the Ultimate Instrument of Global Tyranny-no person on the ground can defend themselves from being surveiled and/or attacked by drones.Now that the drones have been developed,we will always be threatened by them in the future.It does not matter which country you live in;there will be no more episodes like Ruby Ridge or Waco-these are examples of defiant Americans who were declared to be criminals and then physically attacked to force them to submit.The 1% doesn't care-no person who they care about was killed in those incidents.In the future,defiant people will be vaporized by drones.Afterwards,the authorities will state publicly that the drone strike was needed to avoid endangering police because of armed drug dealers defending a meth lab,domestic terrorists,dangerous armed fugitives or whatever narrative they choose to put out there.The 1% considers the 99% to be maggots,and we should expect to be treated by them just like a suburban homeowner treats an insect infestation.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (20423) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Trevor was afraid to send his own letter?

wtf?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

I contend that congress can read this forum

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (20423) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

LoL

do you really think they will?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

if I sent them a letter , they could ignore it and no one would know

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (20423) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

actually I think they probably would ignore it Matt

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

i sent governor brown a letter about making elections holidays and got no response

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

I don't know as he was afraid - he just didn't - and I said that I would if he wrote it.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Afraid? This from the rambilng moron? creativity does not equal poetry just so you know.......

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

nothing I do has been worth my time

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

FU dude mind your own basement nonsense

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20423) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago
[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago
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