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Forum Post: 7 Reasons Why OBAMA should Be Re-Elected

Posted 3 years ago on Nov. 5, 2011, 7:19 p.m. EST by jjpatrick (195)
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SEVEN REASONS WHY OBAMA DESERVES YOUR VOTE: -and why any information given to you outside of Obama's 1 billion dollar campaign is just faux news or Republican lies.

  1. Independent Human Rights investigation of Obama and NATO crimes against humanity in Libya. Obama gave orders to bomb without congressional approval: http://humanrightsinvestigations.org/2011/10/11/sarkozy-cameron-obama-al-thani-and-the-suffering-of-the-children-of-sirte/

  2. Fact check: Romney vs Obama: who lies more? -- quite similar. ---------- http://www.factcheck.org/tag/barack-obama/ http://www.factcheck.org/tag/mitt-romney/

  3. Top 20 recipients of Wall Street Funds: http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary.php?ind=F07&cycle=All&recipdetail=M&sortorder=U Historically, which party receives more from Wall Street? http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary.php?ind=F07&cycle=All&recipdetail=A&sortorder=U

  4. An interesting perspective by Noam Chomsky: --Noam Chomsky on the State-Corporate Complex: http://chomsky.info/talks/20110407.htm

  5. Noam Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQhEBCWMe44

  6. Noam Chomsky on why Obama is worse than Bush: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mA4HYTO790 and Obama's imperilstic policies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiwAFIgGCkQ

  7. Did you know that Obama's health care reform is not public health care. After meeting with lobbyists (as reported by the NY times and Huffington Post), all it did was secure the corporate monopoly for a few for-profit health care industries especially the current health insurance corporations and BigPharma. It's like Obama has just put into law that everyone must purchase their car insurance from a few corporations, who now have full power to set the prices as however they want. Did you know that a deal was made to CUT the public option and if Obama had persuaded at least 20 or so Democrats, there would have been a public option. So lose-lose to those who wanted a public health care option and also to those who favor the markets.
    ---Read the articles how Obama met with lobbyists to kill the public option. ---Consequently, patients in the long run will lose, doctors and health care workers lose as the health care industry is now run by a few corporations.

Republicans were in power at one point and Democrats were in full power just recently up until midterm elections---the difference? Obama's budget for military spending per year is similar and in fact exceeds that of even Bush. http://comptroller.defense.gov/cfs/fy2010/01_DoD_Agency-Wide/Fiscal_Year_2010_DoD_Agencywide_Agency%20Financial%20Report.pdf

I think Republicans probably kept calling Obama a socialist to keep him in power as he continues to serve the will of Corporate America and the Big banks as both parties do. .. while offering the illusion that you're winning the fight from a false dichotomy.

Is it better to give allegiance to Caesar whether it be Romney/Obama OR your children. Two parties for two audiences, but same policies that serve the priorities of their corporate or wall street funders, maybe promising some bread crumbs after--each telling their own audience to demonize the other party providing examples of how 'racist,' or 'stupid,' the other party is, and thus get off free from bearing any responsibility or accountability.

NEITHER REPUBLICANS NOR DEMOCRATS have been representative of the people. CHOOSING BETWEEN THE LESS OF TWO EVILS IS A FALSE DICHOTOMY. DON'T BUY IT. The reason why change may not happen is not because of Republicans but us who fail to say anything.

You don't have to find people you agree with in everything, but the core things. Action speaks louder than words.

just my rant. sorry for the misleading title.

While I got your attention... Here's a Political Solution to Satisfy Progressives and Conservatives; Socialists and Libertarians http://occupywallst.org/forum/political-solution-to-satisfy-progressives-and-con/

What do you think of the Robin Hood tax? Bill Gates wrote a report to support it and wanted the G20 nations to address it. Even UK conservative PM Dave Cameron ran his campaign on it. http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/nov/03/gates-urges-g20-to-introduce-tobin-tax

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[-] 1 points by jjpatrick (195) 3 years ago

Fact check: Romney vs Obama: who lies more? -- quite similar. ---------- http://www.factcheck.org/tag/barack-obama/ http://www.factcheck.org/tag/mitt-romney/

[-] 1 points by jjpatrick (195) 3 years ago

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[-] 1 points by Lockean (671) from New York, NY 3 years ago

"Choosing between the lesser of two evils is a false dichotomy."

...brought to you by the GOP. Just sayin. Obama sucks, but I'd choose him over Pol Pot, for example.

[-] 1 points by jjpatrick (195) 3 years ago

GOP are saying this? If they are, then surely they'd know that the general opinion is that Republicans are more corrupt than Democrats. The truth though is that there is absolutely no difference at all.

Anyway, you should listen to Noam Chomsky. He's a socialist but has some good perspectives on issues.

[-] 1 points by Lockean (671) from New York, NY 3 years ago

I'm a big fan of Chomsky (who's a libertarian socialist), I just don't agree on this. Not choosing is the same as choosing the Republican - and they would love nothing more. There's barely a difference, but there is one. I think we can vote and still work for greater change. It's not an either/or thing.

[-] 1 points by jjpatrick (195) 3 years ago

In Canada a 3rd party came a big player in the last election, a major break through that no one saw coming until the last month or so of the election. All I'm saying is that.. if you think the two party system are the only options... then expect more of the same.

Also, by not choosing also means Democrats lose... just imagine if they really really do represent your ideas, how much stronger they'll fight for you in order to win. But right now, they'r'e funded by Wall Street and will continue to engage in wars overseas because they know they got your vote.. all they have to say is... IT'S THE GOP's FAULT!

Call their bluff even if it means them losing.

[-] 1 points by Lockean (671) from New York, NY 3 years ago

I want a viable 3rd (4th, 5th..) party. Until it's a reality, the dichotomy is not false.

[-] 1 points by jjpatrick (195) 3 years ago

Like I said, in Canada the 3rd party took a while.. even a few generations.. but it takes a generation to get the ball rolling.

[-] 1 points by jjpatrick (195) 3 years ago

Political Solution to Satisfy Progressives and Conservatives; Socialists and Libertarians

http://occupywallst.org/forum/political-solution-to-satisfy-progressives-and-con/

  1. Let each state raise taxes on their people whether in a progressive manner or a flat tax manner. By doing so, they can implement free health care, education, social security, implement regulations of how certain businesses run in their state, more money for their own cities. Keep in mind that the population in one State is equal or more than most countries in the world. If Sweden can do it, so can the State of NY.

  2. Decrease federal taxes so that the revenue generated won't be used to serve the priorities and interests of big banks and corporations. In other words, shrink the temptation for corporations to get their hands on the most powerful empire in the world and the 3 trillion dollar budget (of our money).

The jurisdictions of the federal government should be shrunk down to oversee only programs that need a bigger reach that states can't do themsevles such as Global Warming or U.S. Defense.

And if you don't agree with your State policies, then move.

[-] 1 points by enough (589) 3 years ago

Koolaid kills.

[-] 1 points by Tommiethenoncommie (211) 3 years ago

Especially grape flavor.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 3 years ago

reality check - i'm very disappointed in obama
but ask my 21 year old son who is now insured or the GM workers
seriously!
President flip flop President koch President homophobe President electrocue seriously!

[-] 1 points by jjpatrick (195) 3 years ago

bread crumbs to keep the masses think they got something good. Serously... Anyway, I hear insurance rates are rising and you'll see Obama give his rhetoric that they shouldn't. Geesh.

Seriously, who's a homophobe? or Electrocution? Actually you're right.. Obama doesn't torture anymore, he just assassinates American citizens without due process.

[-] 1 points by RedJazz43 (2757) 3 years ago

I personally agree with you, though I think it will be difficult to convince many OWS supporters, let alone liberals on the edges of OWS. Personally I expect to vote for Jill Stein, but I don't think it's an issue we should spend much time on. It is only internally divisive and our main job should be to organize the vast majority of the 99% that is not yet with us, much less active in our movement.

[-] 1 points by jph (2652) 3 years ago

if voting could change anything it would be illegal,. . the system is over.

[-] 1 points by jjpatrick (195) 3 years ago

What the heck does race have to do with anything. Just study the policies. In fact, Obama's policies systemically oppresses black people, albeit I'm sure he's not conscious of it.

[-] 1 points by MortgagedTent (121) 3 years ago

I voted for Obama last time but not much has changed. Maybe we need a 3rd party candidate because Obama is just another wheel of the global banking cartel.

[-] 1 points by jjpatrick (195) 3 years ago

some links to get a perspective outside of what you're told

[-] 0 points by steven2002 (363) 3 years ago

You be against obama you be a racist pig

[-] 1 points by jjpatrick (195) 3 years ago

lol who says this? I don't think the black community think it's a race thing... even Martin Luther King Jr. would ask us to not make decisions based on race but on character and perhaps even policies.

So I'm not saying to vote for Cain/Romney or obama.. my thesis is that they are the exact same despite Obama being able to speak our lingo a bit better.

[-] 0 points by Spankysmojo (849) 3 years ago

I just want one reason to vote for ANY Republican...one reason...please.

[-] 1 points by Rico (3027) 3 years ago

Not Obama. If nothing else, we need to show we won't REELECT these dudes!

[-] 0 points by Spankysmojo (849) 3 years ago

I would vote for you if could can show you're qualified. I agree but also know that democracy is about compromise. No one better that is a viable candidate, yet.

[-] 0 points by Spankysmojo (849) 3 years ago

I do like what he says but then why did he get elected as a Democrat and switch to the party that all the racists and haters come from? The party that supports what he swears he hates in that interview. I don't get it.

[-] 0 points by happybanker (766) 3 years ago

I think he is lost in the two party system. Anyone being honest would be.

[-] 0 points by Spankysmojo (849) 3 years ago

You might be right.

[-] 0 points by roloff (244) 3 years ago

Don't forget he is black and it proves were not racist by electing black guys

[-] 1 points by Rico (3027) 3 years ago

Hey, there's always Herman Cain !

I personally am PROUD of America for electing a black man, and a darned GOOD one at that. I personally disagree with him on most topics, but I DO think he means well, and it says a LOT about America that we elected him.

Frankly, though I'm a fiscal conservative/social libertarian, I happen to like Hilary Clinton too. She has aged nicely and is becoming quite the stateswoman. I think it would speak well of us to elect a woman soon, and I think she may be one of the best. Maybe Condoleezza Rice as well ? Anyway, EITHER of them are sure a LOT better than Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, et al. [gag].

Accckkkk ! I'm starting to sound like an Independent ! See what you OWS'ers have DONE to me ?

[-] 0 points by Frankie (733) 3 years ago

True. So I don't have a job. At least I'm free from that nagging white guilt. Whew!