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Forum Post: 43 TRILLION dollar lawsuit: Major Banks, Government Officials, Racketeering, Money Laundering and more

Posted 5 years ago on Oct. 26, 2012, 8:51 p.m. EST by TrevorMnemonic (5827)
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Major Banks, Governmental Officials and Their Comrade Capitalists Targets of Spire Law Group, LLP's Racketeering and Money Laundering Lawsuit Seeking Return of $43 Trillion to the United States Treasury

NEW YORK, Oct. 25, 2012 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Spire Law Group, LLP's national home owners' lawsuit, pending in the venue where the "Banksters" control their $43 trillion racketeering scheme (New York) - known as the largest money laundering and racketeering lawsuit in United States History and identifying $43 trillion ($43,000,000,000,000.00) of laundered money by the "Banksters" and their U.S. racketeering partners and joint venturers - now pinpoints the identities of the key racketeering partners of the "Banksters" located in the highest offices of government and acting for their own self-interests.

In connection with the federal lawsuit now impending in the United States District Court in Brooklyn, New York (Case No. 12-cv-04269-JBW-RML) - involving, among other things, a request that the District Court enjoin all mortgage foreclosures by the Banksters nationwide, unless and until the entire $43 trillion is repaid to a court-appointed receiver - Plaintiffs now establish the location of the $43 trillion ($43,000,000,000,000.00) of laundered money in a racketeering enterprise participated in by the following individuals (without limitation): Attorney General Holder acting in his individual capacity, Assistant Attorney General Tony West, the brother in law of Defendant California Attorney General Kamala Harris (both acting in their individual capacities), Jon Corzine (former New Jersey Governor), Robert Rubin (former Treasury Secretary and Bankster), Timothy Geitner, Treasury Secretary (acting in his individual capacity), Vikram Pandit (recently resigned and disgraced Chairman of the Board of Citigroup), Valerie Jarrett (a Senior White House Advisor), Anita Dunn (a former "communications director" for the Obama Administration), Robert Bauer (husband of Anita Dunn and Chief Legal Counsel for the Obama Re-election Campaign), as well as the "Banksters" themselves, and their affiliates and conduits. The lawsuit alleges serial violations of the United States Patriot Act, the Policy of Embargo Against Iran and Countries Hostile to the Foreign Policy of the United States, and the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (commonly known as the RICO statute) and other State and Federal laws.

In the District Court lawsuit, Spire Law Group, LLP -- on behalf of home owner across the Country and New York taxpayers, as well as under other taxpayer recompense laws -- has expanded its mass tort action into federal court in Brooklyn, New York, seeking to halt all foreclosures nationwide pending the return of the $43 trillion ($43,000,000,000.00) by the "Banksters" and their co-conspirators, seeking an audit of the Fed and audits of all the "bailout programs" by an independent receiver such as Neil Barofsky, former Inspector General of the TARP program who has stated that none of the TARP money and other "bailout money" advanced from the Treasury has ever been repaid despite protestations to the contrary by the Defendants as well as similar protestations by President Obama and the Obama Administration both publicly on national television and more privately to the United States Congress. Because the Obama Administration has failed to pursue any of the "Banksters" criminally, and indeed is actively borrowing monies for Mr. Obama's campaign from these same "Banksters" to finance its political aspirations, the national group of plaintiff home owners has been forced to now expand its lawsuit to include racketeering, money laundering and intentional violations of the Iranian Nations Sanctions and Embargo Act by the national banks included among the "Bankster" Defendants.

The complaint - which has now been fully served on thousands of the "Banksters and their Co-Conspirators" - makes it irrefutable that the epicenter of this laundering and racketeering enterprise has been and continues to be Wall Street and continues to involve the very "Banksters" located there who have repeatedly asked in the past to be "bailed out" and to be "bailed out" in the future.

The Havens for the money laundering schemes - and certain of the names and places of these entities - are located in such venues as Switzerland, the Isle of Man, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Cypress and entities controlled by governments adverse to the interests of the United States Sanctions and Embargo Act against Iran, and are also identified in both the United Nations and the U.S. Senate's recent reports on international money laundering. Many of these entities have already been personally served with summons and process of the complaint during the last six months. It is now beyond dispute that, while the Obama Administration was publicly encouraging loan modifications for home owners by "Banksters", it was privately ratifying the formation of these shell companies in violation of the United States Patriot Act, and State and Federal law. The case further alleges that through these obscure foreign companies, Bank of America, J.P. Morgan, Wells Fargo Bank, Citibank, Citigroup, One West Bank, and numerous other federally chartered banks stole trillions of dollars of home owners' and taxpayers' money during the last decade and then laundered it through offshore companies.

This District Court Complaint - maintained by Spire Law Group, LLP -- is the only lawsuit in the world listing as Defendants the Banksters, let alone serving all of such Banksters with legal process and therefore forcing them to finally answer the charges in court. Neither the Securities and Exchange Commission, nor the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, nor the Office of the Attorney General, nor any State Attorney General has sued the Banksters and thereby legally chased them worldwide to recover-back the $43 trillion ($43,000,000,000,000.00) and other lawful damages, injunctive relief and other legal remedies.

James N. Fiedler, Managing Partner of Spire Law Group, LLP, stated: "It is hard for me to believe as a 47-year lawyer that our nation's guardians have been unwilling to stop this theft. Spire Law Group, LLP stands for the elimination of corruption and implementation of lawful strategies, and that is what we're doing here. Spire Law Group, LLP's charter is to not allow such corruption to go unanswered." Comments were requested from the Attorney Generals' offices in NY, CA, NV, NH , OH, MA and the White House, but no comment was provided.

About Spire Law Group Spire Law Group, LLP is a national law firm whose motto is "the public should be protected -- at all costs -- from corruption in whatever form it presents itself." The Firm is comprised of lawyers nationally with more than 250-years of experience in a span of matters ranging from representing large corporations and wealthy individuals, to also representing the masses. The Firm is at the front lines litigating against government officials, banks, defunct loan pools, and now the very offshore entities where the corruption was enabled and perpetrated.

Contact: James N. Fiedler877-438-8766

SOURCE Spire Law Group, LLP

Copyright (C) 2012 PR Newswire. All rights reserved -0- KEYWORD: New York INDUSTRY KEYWORD: RLT


source - http://www.cnbc.com/id/49555671



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[-] 4 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

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[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

An actual piece of investigative journalism. Im glad to see Camp doing this stuff.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

please edit your comment and put a space before the website link on number 1 so it can be clicked on

I'm going to check out the website now! thanks for the links.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

1 repaired - should work now.

[-] 4 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

This could be a GOOD example of why we need Benchmarks to Set Examples of Appropriate Behavior ... in an Initiative to Streamline US Court Systems.

1) We know Court Cased Take many Years to Resolve.
2) We know Poor People can sue Rich Corporations in US or State Courts (The cost up front is prohibitive or if you pay from later settlement you can incur thousands of dollars in tax Liability from awards for Legal Fees in addition to other awards.
3) So therefore we know that the Court Systems are not accessible to people on Main Street.
4) Therefore I suggest quick court decisions in the case of Civil Suits where people have not been damaged bodily or physically harmed or require medical bills to be paid for

based on:

A) Benchmarks, Clear US or State policy in the case of correct, Transparent, and Ethical Banking and Financial behavior.
B) Benchmarks, prior court cases used as examples or business cases to differentiate good behavior, good relationships, good contracts from criminal or fraudulent behavior.
C) Benchmarks, cases that have been ruled and used to show proper relationships between fiduciary agents like Realtors, Lawyers, Accountants, or Financial managers.
D) Benchmarks, Legislation Drafted by State or Federal Congressional Bodies to Clarify and Simplify Laws and Regulations to purposely Narrow Financial Behavior, Legal Entities, Legal Incorporation, Shell Companies, and Jurisdiction.
E) Benchmarks, Legislation Drafted to Clarify and Simplify taxes, and construe what is tax avoidance and tax evasion for the purpose of delineating what behavior is illegal and prosecutable.

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 5 years ago


[-] 4 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 5 years ago

Well worth reposting, Trevor. Now let's just hope it actually goes somewhere.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 5 years ago

Yo 'gno{sis}' & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaF_MZVWM3E [1:15m], hope all is well ;-)

[-] 3 points by TheTrollSlayer (347) from Kingsport, TN 5 years ago

Way to go Trev, I've been posting this wherever i could today. This is just what OWS has been about. Let's support that firm any way we can.

[-] 3 points by geo (2638) from Concord, NC 5 years ago

Banksters, gangsters, bought politicians, money laundering, off shore shell corporations, trillions of dollars, theft,.... all the makings of a great novel. Unbelievable that its real and these are the times of my life.... but it is. Will justice be done?

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

If the case can be tried outside of the US of A, it has a chance of being an uncorrupted hearing.

These cases can take years, unfortunately. Let's hope the people who illegally lost their homes have a hope of getting their life back together.

[-] 1 points by Brython (-146) 5 years ago

Many don't want them back. I know people who owned several; home improvement loaned to twice the value - they extracted rent and gave them back to the bank; cool beans. Now they're on easy street living down south. And I know people who are doing this now. So my opinion is that the banks set themselves up with little care because the risk was so leveraged it was reduced to near zero. Many took advantage. And now the tax payer is bailing the them both out.

[-] 3 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

Spire Law's website and information on previous lawsuits to better understand the Law firm


[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago


[-] 4 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

The suit implicates the president. Can the election go ahead?


The release states that the suit implicates every major bank servicer and their subsidiaries, as well as the Obama administration which allegedly was privately ratifying the formation of shell corporations in violation of not only the USA PATRIOT Act, but also State and Federal law as well.

This is all while the administration was very publicly encouraging home owners to modify their loans.

The suit, which has been assigned Index No. 500827 and was filed by the Spire Law Group and their affiliates and partners throughout the United States, also alleges that Bank of America, J.P. Morgan, Wells Fargo Bank, Citibank, Citigroup, One West Bank, among other federally chartered banks stole hundreds of millions of dollars from U.S. home owners through little-known offshore companies.

The money was then laundered through offshore corporations, and surprisingly the suit is quite explicit in identifying specific companies as well as the countries they are located in which were used to help defraud huge sums of money from Americans.

These activities are violations of the guidelines of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), New York state law, not to mention other states as well as federal law.

Columbus, Ohio-based trial lawyer and author Eric J. Wittenberg made some quite heated statements on behalf of the plaintiffs in the case.

“The laundering of trillions of dollars of U.S. taxpayer money — and the wrongful taking of the homes of those taxpayers — was known by the Administration and expressly supported by it. Evidence uncovered by the plaintiffs revealed that the Administration ignored its own agencies’ reports — and reports from the Department of Homeland Security — about this situation, dating as far back as 2010,” Wittenberg said.

“Worse, the Administration purported to endorse a ‘national bank settlement’ without disclosing or having any public discourse whatsoever about the thousands of foreign tax havens now wholly owned by our nation’s banks.

Fortunately, no home owner is bound to enter into this fraudulent bank settlement,” he added.

The many home owners involved in the case are suing these major financial institutions and their foreign allies not only for fraud and larceny but also for conversion and violations of provisions of New York state law and other laws. If this lawsuit is what they are making it out to be, there could be a great deal of incredibly important information brought to light.

The press release states,

“This lawsuit explains why loans were, in general, rarely modified after 2009. It explains why the entire bank crisis worsened, crippling the economy of the United States and stripping countless home owners of their piece of the American dream.

It is indeed a fact that the Administration has spent far more money stopping bank investigations, than they have investigating them. When the Administration’s agencies (like the FDIC) blew the whistle, their reports were ignored.”

“As if it is not bad enough that banks collect money and do not credit it to homeowners’ accounts, and as if it is not bad enough that those banks then foreclose when they know they do not have a legally enforceable interest in the realty, we now learn that they have been operating under unbridled free reign given by the Administration and some states’ Attorneys General in formulating this international money laundering network,” Wittenberg said.

“Now that the light of day has been shined on it, I believe we can all rest assured that the beginning of the end of the bank crisis has arrived,” he added.

All I can say is I hope he is right. This is truly one of the most astounding cases which has come to light in recent history, to say the least.

If this case is successful it could very well mean a major blow to the entire corrupt global financial system.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

At this point in time - I do not think that it would affect the election - It very well could affect the upcoming administration. I hope that this case goes forward successfully as it could mean a whole new ball game world wide.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

I see a lot of casualties along the way.

See my link above about CNBC removing their report on this, and the reason why.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

If this goes forward honestly and with due diligence - there is gonna be all kinds of fallout.

[-] 3 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

Tweet away. This story needs to go viral.

Where's the network media on this? Where's the investigative journalism.

It's only the largest lawsuit in the history of the country.

[-] 4 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Where's the network media on this?

Exactly why we need to push this issue viral !!!

It is up to the people to spread the word.

It's only the largest lawsuit in the history of the country. In the History of civilization?

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

Apparently CNBC reported on it, and there's screen shots of their report on this blogger's page.


I also read a rumour that a CNBC boss's children were murdered, blamed on their nanny, who then slit her own throat. Can't confirm this as anything more than a rumour at this stage.


[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Police: Nanny stabbed herself upon mother's arrival - CNN.com www.cnn.com/2012/10/26/us/new-york-nanny-deaths/index.html 7 hours ago – The nanny suspected in the killings of two children in her care began ... her 6-year-old daughter and son stabbed to death in the tub," Kelly said. ... a senior vice president for CNBC Digital and former Yahoo executive, was en ...

also posted

CNBC Exec's Children Murdered, 1 Day After CNBC Reports $43 ... theintelhub.com/.../cnbc-execs-children-murdered-1-day-after-cnbc-r... By JG Vibes theintelhub.com. October 27, 2012. This week financial news organization CNBC gave some mainstream attention to the largest money laundering ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 5 years ago

Just think of all the security issues now. All the people in Spire Law Group and all of their family, need extreme security, immediately.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

There was a report about a nanny that went nuts and killed two of the children in her care then took the knife to herself ( reported yesterday ). Last I heard she was in critical condition.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5127) 5 years ago

It is too early to tell if the nanny went nuts or felt guilty of not being able to protect the children if there might have been an assassin involved. It is an unusual mode to try to commit suicide by slitting one's own throat. Let us refrain from allegations and let the case be tried properly in a court of law. The publicizing of the lawsuit might have had something to do with the case, too, but that also needs further investigation.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Oh - not to worry - if the nanny survives - it will be interesting to hear what she might have to say. Odd about that lawsuit story being pulled like that.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

Why was she left alive if she didn't do anything? A warning to everyone concerned?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

An oops perhaps? Rush job interrupted?

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

The mother told police that the nanny stabbed herself right in front of her. The nanny just lost her mind. So much for that.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

Do you have a link to that claim, Steve?

Would be interesting to know how long had that nanny been employed by them, and what history she has/had in such a role. These are parents of young children, in an upper middle-class family we are talking about here.

They would have been very careful in their choice of nannies, you think?

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

This whole thing is still strange. A lawsuit that doesn't mention the Bush administration at all, the story gets pulled, now this.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago
[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

Hmmm. What to say?

It's a wait-and-see from me.

Thanks for the link, but the story doesn't tie in with the one posted above in DKA's post. And, your article title says that the signs have been there for months, but there's no detail of that in the actual article.

[-] 2 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

Better not to jump to conclusions about this I guess, especially with the nature of the crime.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

Yeah, I'll sit on the fence too.

Expect a lot of misinformation surrounding this case.

It's gonna get nasty rather quickly.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5127) 5 years ago

Yes, retraction of the lawsuit news story smacks of censorship from high up - it probably gored some powerful people the wrong way. Of course, the record of the lawsuit is PUBLIC information so disseminating it factually by anyone is well within the confines of the Law.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

It is just that it goes against the public news blackout program and on a major issue of public concern and of so far a blind eye being turned to the subject of prosecuting economic criminals by government.

[-] 2 points by grapes (5127) 5 years ago

Yes, it is extremely likely that there are very powerful interests all stacked up against the dissemination of the substance of this lawsuit.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

No Bout Adoubt it.

[-] 2 points by grapes (5127) 5 years ago

It is odd that the police chief had to amend his statement about the attempted suicide of the nanny. Of course, it could have just been a mistake in taking down the statement from the mother of the slain children.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Could also be that not all of the facts are being shared.

[-] 2 points by grapes (5127) 5 years ago

Maybe. Let us wait and see. Truth does have a way of emerging over time in spite of attempts to suppress it.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Just really weird synchronicity if the incidents are not related.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5127) 5 years ago

This reminds me of the tobacco story suppression at CBS when the Tisch family owned CBS. Tisch family came to own a tobacco company somewhat accidentally but the potentially bad publicity was still apparently a concern to the family or its deputies.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Conflict of interest in owning a news source - shit that looks bad for you - just somehow does not get covered.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5127) 5 years ago

It is not a big problem as long as everyone knows that we ALWAYS get the news through distorted lenses. It is still possible to piece together the Truth in spite of the distortions if we apply ourselves but few of us have the time or intense interest, etc. to do so. That is the real crux of the problem of our "demos-crazy."

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

We used to have a department to watch things like - false advertizing and yellow journalism and such things - hmmm - I think though that somehow they got sidetracked chasing down George Carlin's seven dirty words - it has become their one obsession and they are doing poorly with just that.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5127) 5 years ago

That department's bosses in our government became infused with the Spirit of Nullity as the other departments did. Voters shoulder much of the responsibility for our rendezvous with the singular Nullity.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

YES - TOO TRUE - after having opted out for these many long decades - the government is a fuck'n mess - state and fed.

[-] -1 points by marvelpym (-184) 5 years ago

What are you implying?

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

It is not apparent?

[-] -1 points by marvelpym (-184) 5 years ago

Spell it out for me.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Nah - I will let you puzzle with it.


[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Well Mr. Comic book Scientist - is that the only way an assassin could have been sent after this guys family? Is there no one else that might want to keep the story out of the main view?

[-] 0 points by marvelpym (-184) 5 years ago


[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

That's a WOW from me.

Huge in scope. I've been suggesting class actions against the banksters for a while now. Australians have stopped our banks from charging all kinds of phoney fees on our accounts.

People Power should not be discounted ever.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

I really hope this law suit goes somewhere.

Jail the banksters and the corrupt politicians.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

I wonder. Does anyone know if the Spire Law group will be using :

Oath of office

Public good

National security


As part of their arguments?

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

I havent seen any updates on this topic

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Found this : ( will look for more )

I spoke with Spire Law Group today regarding the $43 trillion lawsuit ... www.dailypaul.com › Forums › Economy I spoke with Spire Law Group today regarding the $43 trillion lawsuit. Submitted by fishyculture on Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:18. in. Economy ...

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

I had trouble hearing the conversation.

Doesn't seem like much has updated. It's very early in the court process still.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

True very early - last most recent posts are like 5 days old. That vid conversation was very poor - not clear who she was talking to - though if it was the Spire offices - it did confirm that the parties have all been served - if that call was about the 43 trillion law suit. Hope to see some real updates soon.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

I will have to take a look and see if their is something new yet.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

please let me know if you find anything. I've tried looking.

[-] 1 points by ThomasKent (131) 5 years ago

Is that more than $120K for every man, woman and child in the USA?

[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 5 years ago
[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

This is about the bailouts.

[-] -1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

This is all over the net now but the MSM won't touch it. One more mystery we're supposed to solve, unpaid of course. I hate the internet. So why am I here? To throw gas on a fire, or not.....that is the question.

[-] -1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

Is there a way to prove CNBC put this on their site? If so they need to be asked why they took it off. How can we prove it? CNBC may feel that the lawyers at Spire are in too much trouble for the story to be valid. They should just say so if that's the case.

[-] -1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

Let's not forget folks that this includes Bush too. He didn't hesitate to say yes to the bailouts.

[-] -2 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

I'd like to know if CNBC posted this on their website and if they did why they pulled it. That's all I want to know. We can proceed from there.

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

GE probably decided it wasn't in their best interests to start spreading this around :)

[-] -2 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 5 years ago

Wow, now are we to understand that all this just "began" and "happened" under the Obama administration?

Oh, I get it....just like the founding fathers of this nation eh? "Do as I say....not as I do"....???

Please tell us....What Bull Shyt Hyper bag did this investigation come out of?

I keep telling people of color to stay away from "white" folks and their bull shyt! It never does them any good!!!

LOL !!!

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

Bush admin should be listed too. I agree with that. Saying this is all bullshit because Obama admin is mentioned is bullshit.

[-] -3 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 5 years ago

Where was all this outrage before Obama? Are you saying that because Obama is in office and that his cabinet is full of politicians that are of many nationalities, that he alone should be held accountable for the administration members who choose to be corrupt? Then hey, put all of the AMA in jail, along with the FDA, the DEA, the HHS, the whole damned alphabet of corrupt people that exist in ALL ORGANIZATIONS!
Like I said....Bull shyt.....all or nothing at all.....you can't continue to have scapegoats when everyone is doing it! That's all!

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

no one is saying Obama should be the only one held accountable. This lawsuit isn't saying that either.

However you need to accept that there are risks involved from accepting campaign money from fraudulent banks like Goldman Sachs.

[-] -1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 5 years ago

The history of politics in this country begin with the finance, the land, the original inhabitants and the banks.....

What truly depresses me with this country, its inhabitants and its ideologies is that everyone believes this is some miracle nation of existence.. No one...and I do mean NO ONE...ever wants to face facts on how this nation got its start, who started it. what they did to keep it up and running, and how it got in this Hell of a mess in the first damn place... You people actually believe that this is something new or that leaders actually worked miracles to insure their control? Do you actually believe that you all are aware of or been told all the facts...NOT! "Wilson forbade copies of the Treaty of Versailles being given to the Senate, Congress or any common American. He did not discuss the deals he made on behalf of the American people with their representatives. While British, French and German delegates regularly informed their governments and people of the terms of this “peace,” the Americans were conspicuously kept in the dark. " But, he was making deals for the American People? Bull shyt! http://www.bigeye.com/bankers_make_war.htm http://www.infoplease.com/encyclopedia/history/versailles-treaty-of-in-world-war-i.html

Need more? This country has been double dealing and double dipping since its inception....Read on..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_treaties#Pre-Revolutionary_War_treaties If you want to put the blame of racketeering, money laundering, etc, etc, even murder on political leaders....start with the FOUNDING FATHERS of this Nation!

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

Yeah lets file a lawsuit against dead people!


[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Yeah lets file a lawsuit against dead people! U mean CorpoRATions?

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

My comment was a half joke in reply to Neuwurldorder saying we need to go back to the founding fathers in regards to the topic on this lawsuit.

I'm all about taking on the bad side of corporations and banks.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

I know - it just seemed fitting to add in that Corp(ses)oRATions are dead.

Hmmm I thought it was Neuwurldodor.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

How can they be dead? They were never living people like Mittens would want real people to believe. lol

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

They are kind of like the Frankenstein monster - only animated by the mad scientists ( ceo's and executive staff ) - their animation is under control - it is just greedy insane control in some instances.

[-] -1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 5 years ago

You can if you like MoronicMnemonic.....have fun since your brain seems to gravitate that way anyhow! It is no secret that many lawsuits have been won on treatise, laws and regulations of the past....not suing individuals " hole of the arse!"

Learn your history.....but then again you know your history, don't you? That's why you make such stupid ass replies and take serious conversations up into la la land when you can't get a handle on it.

If you like what your forefathers left as an inheritance for you and your kind...with laws, regulations, legislation, etc and making corporations individuals (who by the way can be sued) then more power to you, your kind and your cronies. I completely understand your reluctance to acknowledge your past, present and future...it's pretty bleak!

Personally, and perhaps along with millions of others across the globe, we understand what was done to our nations and all people of color a well as those who are not... BULL SHYT THEORIES AND IDEOLOGIES that never helped us but only harmed. to keep the greedy in power! Now, as you all read this, please understand, I am not trying to remove any of you you out of your comfortable dreamworld, please, stay there, you all are no use to us anyhow.... Yet, I will continue to reach out to those individuals who have false belief that they MUST or are obligated to continue to follow you all's BS, or that you all have the answers to this mayhem! You don't....otherwise it would have been solved decades ago!

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

Me and my people?

What the fuck are you talking about?

Where are you getting these crazy ass assumptions about me from?

You are being very ridiculous.

[-] -1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

Have you read about the lawyers behind this?

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

What about them?

Are they part of the criminal elite too?

[-] -1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

Maybe. Not elite exactly. Check out Mitchell J. Stein;


[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

That report is from September 2011.

We already know that politicians, lawyers, and used car salesmen have the same rabid ability to lie and cheat and steal.

The tort action we are dealing with here would employ many more than a few lawyers, and here's hoping there's at least some in there that have an ounce of decency left.

Remembering that Attorneys General are up on fraud charges, it's gonna be a very dirty fight. There's gonna be SHTF all over the shop. Or that's what you'd expect, anyways.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

It's really up to the lawyers how far they want to go with this. I thought this was a Tea Party thing at first because it only targeted people in the Obama administration, bankers, and it condemed the bailouts. Stein was disbarred I believe but I don't know about his associates.

[-] -1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

are they asking for money from civilians?

[-] -1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 5 years ago

"I keep telling people of color to stay away from "white" folks and their bull shyt! It never does them any good!!!"

Sadly that seems to contain more than just a little bit of wisdom, and folks like Trevor will never be able to understand what you are saying.

The problem is of course that people who think white are everywhere, they set up what are in fact at least partially well meaning and well purposed activities such as OWS but they just can't see past their whiteness their entitlement mentality that in fact denies especially African American people's history, circumstances and essential role if indeed these white dreamers are to reach those of their goals that are in fact decent and worthy. Anyhow that's my two cents right there.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

WOW - U R just a tad bit fucked-up aren't you.

[-] 0 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 5 years ago

Funny you should say that.....If looking at reality FUCKS ONE UP...then I would advise you all to stay exactly right where you are...never search for the truth...then You won't have to worry about anything else....ever....

Glad you don't pay my bills...oh self righteous one!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

U have a good day now odor

[-] 0 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 5 years ago

I always do when I stir up the nest and disturb the MORONS!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

You must have a hellacious good time at home then - or even when looking in the mirror - U know - when U are in your nest.

[-] 0 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 5 years ago

Is that the best you can do? Are you trying to insult me or just make yourself feel better?

Don't you know me by now Boy..e.e.e.? I am above all trauma's, guilt trips and jealous tirades from anyone especially you all on here... I tell it like it iz and sit back and watch you all's fur fly! LOL!

In other words.... If you all would learn how to free your minds... your asses would always follow...

Now...on that note...you all can have the last word as usual... You know why?

Cause it don't mean a hill of beans to me or the million others who understand otherwise! LOL : )

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Odor - question - R U some type of supremacist ?

BTW - you have not come close to pissing me off - and if I insult you for real you won't have to wonder about whether or not it happened. BTW - it won't be an insult out of anger - it will be an honest comment on your shortcomings. {:-])

[-] 0 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 5 years ago

Ahh,,,,Mitt Romney personified..Bravo~

LOL...Big Time!!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Nah - I don't see you as personifying mittens.

[-] 0 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 5 years ago

Uh......you do.....



[-] 0 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 5 years ago
[-] 0 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 5 years ago

You see I put quotations around that label. It makes me sick that it is always broken down into that mode, People of color are always wrong and "white" is right, but that is reality here as is those were the principles this country was founded on and we need to understand that it still exists. I don't trust any one particular race, because I see the good in the heart of any one who can go beyond racial divides and mental slavery. So. we need the truth to be known regarding all peoples required responsibility to each other, not just their own selfish ideologies or garbage thoughts!