Forum Post: 4 Basic Demands that only a TRAITOR would not endorse
Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 30, 2011, 2:15 p.m. EST by hchc
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- Corporate Taxholes Closed
- 100% Audit of Fed
- Limits on Campaign Financing
- Re-Install Glass Steagall
Maybe reducing the overseas invasions too? I don't know any sane person who would denounce that?
First list I've seen without ridiculousness. Kudos sir!
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http://occupywallst.org/forum/what-are-your-demands-occupy-wall-street-does-anyb/#comment-190347
Audit of the fed is trivial compared to exposing its foundation and means of acquiring income as being based upon counterfeit.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/ows-objective-1-fractional-reserve-lending-is-a-cr
I figured a massive audit, by the people, would inevitably lead to this.
The people have no idea how simple it is to explain the criminal institution of fractional lending. The public would be shocked that they have been duped by something that is obviously hidden in plain sight. The public would be proud of themselves to finally figure it.
What's glass steagall? and an audit of the fed to see what's going where and when?
I'd like to add to this corporations MUST do a certain amount of manufacturing in the USA.
Money out of politics and politics out of money. CEOs cannot take more than a certain percentage above the wage of their employees. Healthcare...oh lord.
We have the GAO (govt accountabilities office) that gave a kick ass report on debt http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d11318sp.pdf
Trade law reform will bring this.
I would put trade law reform at the top of the list.
4 requires a repeal of Gramm- Leach- Bliley. There is almost no chance of this happening as it will turn to Big to Fail Banks into consumer banks. A comprehensive plan for how to divide the holding of the mega banks would require a true audit of the entire financial system. There is zero chance of this happening.
With that attitude you are 100% right.
Not sure what attitude you are referring to?
Are you capable of such an audit? Do you have a plan for how to make FIVE banks dissolve all of their investment capital into a separate entity without losing the confidence of their investors or their global credit rating?
There are very big and very real consequences for the things you are asking for. Cute quips and regurgitating things you read on a pamphlet, are not solutions. I ask you, how do you fix this? This is the main issue with fixing the global financial system.
Break it all down, let the chaos ensue, and let the honest ones rise to the top.
Change this big will be very painful. But at least then the worst is behind us.
Am I smart enough in finance to create a legitimate plan of action for this? No. If you are, please move forward with it.
HAHAHAHAHA!!
You wouldn't survive the chaos destroying the world economy would cause.
Chaos. You think that chaos will sort this all out? All chaos will do is further crush the "99%". The people that control the power structure in the world are better equipped and better prepared for this sort of chaos than you, I assure you. Letting chaos reign and having honest ones rise to the top is such a contradiction, I'm stunned that you actually believe it.
Do I have a plan of action? No. I am blue collar guy trying to support my family. I have a job, for now. Thats all I care about.
Ok, so neither of us can make a change. But we are both on this forum. Why?
Oh please.
We are looking for entirely different things. Im looking for someone with a plan. Not just a complaint.
I can't speak for why you are here.
And people looking instead of acting is why we are in this fuckin mess. Keep looking, instead of acting, and let me know when you find it.
A movement with a million voices says a million things.
I don't see anything wrong with the demands you put into writing on this forum. It's a good start.
Yay! I'm not a a traitor to the this country. Now I can sleep soundly tonight.lol
great - and this is totally Tea Party as well
Very true. Media will not allow the merging of the people.
The Republicans have actually put forth a plan to close corporate loopholes and bring down the rate. If you got rid of all the corporate subsidies and loopholes you would also get rid of the need for thousands of lobbyists. When gov't dictates winners and losers, corporations are going to go feed at the trough.
Bear in mind, this includes the pet projects of those on the left as well: i.e., union favored companies (GM/Chrysler), "green" companies, etc. . . Put every company on the same plane and let the chips fall where they may.
If the gov't isn't there to bailout companies, they will become much more risk adverse and the market will function as it should.
As for limiting campaign finance, you will need a constitutional amendment. Contributing to campaigns clearly falls under free speech. Political free speech is critical to a free society.
Each party always proposes things when they know it wont pass due to not having the numbers. Its a diversionary tactic to keep the morons faithful.
Why aren't the Democrats on board? Even the President's debt commission recommended the very same thing. This would make our corporations much more compeitive world wide. Our corporate tax rate is the second highest in the world.
Neither party is on board. Unless you have heard about a statement from the RNC that I haven't heard about. As far as the Tea Party I think they would be on board with just about anything that would keep them in the mix.
http://spectator.org/blog/2011/09/14/paul-ryan-on-corporate-tax-ref
Here's Paul Ryan on corp tax reform. If he's for it, the Repubs are for it.
And our deduction rate is the highest too. The reason the Dems arent on board is because both parties are bought by the same people. A unifying message of fixing the economy for the good of the whole will not be heard. Ever.
The plan has been the same for decades. Divide every issue, make the people take sides, which then aligns them with other things, many which they dont like.
Rob them blind in the meantime.
Even after the deductions, our effective tax rate remains among the highest in the world.
I am not quite the conspiracy theorist you are. I think there are fundamental differences b/w the left and right. Always has been and always will. It essentially boils down to the role of gov't in our lives.
I believe there used to be fundemantal differences. But now they are both just fascists.
If you reduced the role of gov't to it's constitutional function, then you wouldn't have corporations feeding at the trough. What brings the corporate lobbyists to Washington? Tax loopholes, subsidies, corporate welfare, bailouts, etc. . . Get rid of all of these and the market would function as it should and we would all be better off.
Very true. How do we get there? And how long will it take?
If the focus of this movement turned to the root cause: Gov't/corporate cronyism. And made this the central point, they would have widespread support. I am a conservative and libertarian, I recognize the same problems highlighted by this movement, but I, and many others, are turned off by the anti-capitalist rhetoric.
I'd like to see the next step taken in response to this. We can all agree our system does not work the way it should. This is our fault as well. If politicians are accountable to the people, it is the people's job/responsibility to enforce that. So lets do so. What I'd like to see.
I think you're missing the point. The reason corps spend so much on lobbying and contributing to political campaigns is because they have something to gain from gov't. Take away what is to be gained and you won't have to worry about how much they contribute. If the gov't wasn't in the business of lending for homes and student loans; subsidizing companies like Solyndra; bailing out auto manufacturers, etc. . . the corps wouldn't bother wasting their money.
me too.
What about toning down the patriot tone.